Good list of payware warbirds

anels9 said:
Thanks wombat for those screens. So you could recommend the AH/JF spitfire collection along with the sky unlimited stang and spit?
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I'll qualify my reasoning behind these selections.
Firstly I like these aircraft, secondly the only reason I have the SU Mustangs is the Allison powered versions and, finally, the AH/JF Spitfires are an almost complete collection.
The PD Spitfire XVI is the pick of this bunch, and the SU Spitfire V is a decent collection of that particular Mark.
It really comes down to what you want, a collection or a specific aircraft, bearing in mind these are relatively 'old' FS2004 subjects.
Plus they appeal to me.
None are 'A2A' standard as far as tuning flight detail (not that I need it) but they just appeal to me.
As for later Mustangs, Warbirdsim do the best and cover everything from the P51B through to the 'Might have been' USN version.
It does come down to personal taste.

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I appreciate your reasoning :)

What im after is really a collection of the best thats still available while it still is. A lot of stuff isnt available anymore due to developers moving far beyond fs2004, even if their older fs2004 could still sell it just gets removed from vendors website

I've already got a decent list of payware warbirds at the moment. gone a bit crazy this week. ive already purchased the -

A2A FW-190 Butcher bird and long nose,
A2A bombers and jets pack,
A2A WWII fighters special edition,
Flight Replicas ME-262
Sky Unlimited HO-229
Plane Design Spitfire MK XVI

over the next few weeks ive got my eyes set on these..

Flight Replicas entire BF/ME-109 collection
JF Mosquito and addons
JF/AH Spitfire collection
Wardbirdsim P-51 (not sure of really any other payware P-51s apart from A2A?)
SU Spitfire VB and Hurricane

And if get an email back, a couple of the CWDT models.

And the next few addons im not sure. I know A2As WWII fighters collection already comes with the P-51D,P-47D and BF-109E but do the seperate addons by A2A come with more?
And over at just flight, im not sure if the spitfires in these 3 packages are all from the same developer or different? Maybe some can shed some light on these 2 addon problems for me?

https://www.justflight.com/product/warbirds-of-wwii-download
https://www.justflight.com/product/spitfire-download
https://www.justflight.com/product/spitfire-and-tempest-
 
Next to the single model Mustang and Thunderbolt included in the WWII fighters package A2A also has packages which contain different models and liveries :

https://a2asimulations.com/product/wings-of-power-p-47-thunderbolt/

https://a2asimulations.com/product/wings-of-power-p-51d-h/

These were already on the market before the WWII CD was released. One single model from both these packages were included in the WWII fighters package. I have the complete P-47 package installed as it contains some nice bubble-top versions.

When A2A/Shockwave originally released their P-51, The Alphasim was their main-competitor at the market. The quality of both models was originally quite similar, until A2A decided to upgrade their model and released the 1.2 version. This allowed them to use much more detailed textures (Originally all external textures were on one 1024x1024 texture, while after the upgrade the A2A model had the external textures covered over four separate 1024x1024 textures.)
In my opinion the even better than excellent paintkit by John "Bomber_12th" Terrell did the rest. It became too easy to create highly detailed textures. And talented repainters like Jan Kees Blom really pumped out repaints in a pace North American had never been able to build Mustangs in.......

But the main difference could be found in the VC. The Alphasim had a VC according to the accepted standards at that time, while the A2A version had a VC which would set the standard for the next years........
(However I personally still believe the Alphasim model has a better external model and the perfect pilot.....)

The Alphasim Mustang was made available as freeware by Alphasim and can still be found at the freeware pages on Virtavia site.

Below the Alphasim P51 D with a repaint by Bob Reiter, aka: Greenhouse357 (Huub is short for Hubert....)

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And the same livery now made by Jan Kees Blom, based on John "Bomber_12th"Terrell's perfect paintkt, at the A2A/Shockwave P51 D (version 1.2).

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The difference in resolution is clearly seen in the image from Hubert. (Both model can be flown with or without external tanks.)

anels9 said:
Im not sure if these 2 packages are different

https://www.pcaviator.com/store/product.php?productid=18931&cat=0&page=1
https://www.simshack.net/products/north-american-p-51-mustang-fighter-leader-ii-345
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I'm pretty sure these packages are exactly the same.

Cheers,
Huub
 
Okay so the stand alone packages do include more than whats in the WWII fighters pack.

Yeah i already got the alphasim stang. Liked the look of the A2A one, but you've given me a second opion and might have to take another look :)
 
anels9 said:
Im not sure if these 2 packages are different

https://www.pcaviator.com/store/product.php?productid=18931&cat=0&page=1
https://www.simshack.net/products/north-american-p-51-mustang-fighter-leader-ii-345
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I had a closer look at these packages and they are actually different. Not only the liveries are different, but they also contain different sub-version (read: production versions). The package at simshack contains the F6 photo reconnaissance version, which is not present in package from PCAviator.

Differences are mainly found in the VC, but there are also quite some external differences like the dorsal fin, birdcage vs Malcolm cockpit, antennas, ets.

It seems one is considered the P51B package and the othe is the P51C package

Cheers,
Huub

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Thanks for confirming that. I thought they were different but needed a second opinion :)

what’s the quality of the sky unlimited products, I found a site that sells the mig-3 and just came across the Bear Studios Lovochkin LA-9, I’ve got lots of bear studios stuff so I’m not concerned about quality being an issue.

Also from this post. I’m mainly interested in the fast(est) fighter/interceptors of WWII and maybe just after.
 
Was there a good payware F4U Corsair by A2A or anyone else? I know there’s some for fsx
 
There was a set with an overview of the history of the Corsair done by Aeroplane Heaven. It was similar to the Spitfire sets. I'm not sure they are still available.

There is a review here : https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?315-Aeroplane-Heaven-Vought-Corsair

On my old PC I had the early set still installed. Quite nice considering they are 15 years old......

anels9 said:
Thanks for confirming that. I thought they were different but needed a second opinion................ (sniped)
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However there is something odd. At PCAviator the description form the package doesn't match with the images. The images shown are from the package offered at Simshack. As you recently purchased the set at PCAviator, I wonder which version you received. Was it the set with the droptank and "Shangri-La"in it. or was it the version with the bombs and "Bonny B" in it.

Cheers,
Huub

Cheers,
Huub
 
You wouldnt still have that pack would you? :)

And yeah thats what I think was throwing me off :dizzy:
 
huub vink said:
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However there is something odd. At PCAviator the description form the package doesn't match with the images. The images shown are from the package offered at Simshack. As you recently purchased the set at PCAviator, I wonder which version you received. Was it the set with the droptank and "Shangri-La"in it. or was it the version with the bombs and "Bonny B" in it.
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You are right, the images do not fit the description at PCAviator.
https://www.pcaviator.com/store/product.php?productid=18931&cat=0&page=1
The description is correct. It has "Shangri-La" in the package.

All the models have drop tanks.
 
hawk_sh said:
You are right, the images do not fit the description at PCAviator.
https://www.pcaviator.com/store/product.php?productid=18931&cat=0&page=1
The description is correct. It has "Shangri-La" in the package.

All the models have drop tanks.
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Thanks hawk_sh :encouragement:. Buying the same package twice only happened to me with MAAM's Briefing Time (version issues with Windows10) and the charity DC-2 Uiver (which I actually purchased 3 times :biggrin-new: testing the wrapper....).

anels9 said:
You wouldnt still have that pack would you? :)
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As it was/is payware, I can't share it. And as said it was installed at my old PC, so it might be gone, seen the age its doubtful whether I still have a back-up.

Cheers,
Huub
 
How many different packs were made for FS2004 of the p-51? I’d like to buy them but am a bit confused as to which ones contain what, they all look the same
 
Yep, tried the demo, impressed enough with i will buy it when i get the chance. my next purchase will be some CWDT warbirds, was lucky enough to get en email back :D
 
Might I suggest the SOH 'Donationware' Corsair?
IIRC it was far from shabby and is still available, been quite some time since I flew it but I rather liked it. Only managed to find this clip of the FAA version but the USMC and USN are included.
Same goes for the F4F, still a decent rendition and includes the 'Wildcatfish'.

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Quire a few F4F variations and repaints as well.
 
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Originally Posted by anels9
How many different packs were made for FS2004 of the p-51? I’d like to buy them but am a bit confused as to which ones contain what, they all look the same



I assume your question is about the Warbirdsim Mustang. There are two packages Fighter Leader I and Fighter Leader II. The first package has the more well known aircraft and the included models have drop tanks. The second contains similar models with equipped with bombs. This package also contains a F6 photo reconnaissance version and models with a loop antenna as used in the Pacific, which are not present in the first package).

Fighter Leader I is available at PCAvaiator : https://www.pcaviator.com/store/prod...1&cat=0&page=1
(The description at PCAviator is correct, however the images are from the other package.)

Fighter leader II is available at Simshack : https://www.simshack.net/products/no...-leader-ii-345
(The description is correct as is the image)

I am a bit biased, but the WBS Mustang is the best payware model you can get for FS9 in my opinion.

Cheers,
Huub

For those who sometimes read books..............

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Okay thanks huub. Going through my files, i actually found the second package with the F6. No idea when i purchased it, so that might save me a bit of money. not sure what updates came out after though
 
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