HMS Victory

[stoney]

Really looking forward to this!

 

[Penzoil3]

Wahoo! Another Shupe masterpiece to look forward too !
Sue

 

[Milton Shupe]

Really looking forward to this!

Thank you Stoney; I'll look to you for some testing in the future if you have FSX or P3D. Will also solicit advice since you read the book.

Wahoo! Another Shupe masterpiece to look forward too !
Sue

LOL Sue, you are too kind. Maybe you can help with testing as well?

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DISCLAIMER
Just for clarity folks, I did not model HMS Victory, as I mentioned earlier, I am converting it to use FSX in native format. It will be a lot of hours invested for me and Rob, but the model credits go to the original author back around 2002 going from the date on the original .3ds file. The original freeware download contained no personal credits to the author and the site is no longer active.
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Progress:
I now have all the standard sails animated and showing/hiding as they should in terms of wind speeds and wind direction.
That does not include some of the new sails we did not have on the Bounty like Bowsprit and studsails.
Still have to add animated running rigging and foot ropes yet.

Animated flags always the challenge but we must have some lively flags.

I have adjusted the lower main and foremast sails to open up the view in the VC, and adjusted some views, but much more yet to do with camera views.

Also, just wanted to show the difference in sizes between the Bounty and HMS Victory.

EDIT: added a VC screenshot with sails stowed.

 

[stoney]

Be glad to help. I run FS2004 and FSX.

 

[Seahawk72s]

Assuming a single shot saluting cannon will be incorporated, would it be possible to have
a single deck broadside available..?

The side by side comparison screen shots are breath taking.

Thanks for undertaking this project...

 

[Penzoil3]

Milt, anything, anytime. I have so many of your planes, I am eternally grateful !
I have Steam FSX, P3D 3, and 4.
Sue

 

[Milton Shupe]

Assuming a single shot saluting cannon will be incorporated, would it be possible to have
a single deck broadside available..?

The side by side comparison screen shots are breath taking.

Thanks for undertaking this project...

Possible? Of course. Just need to write down 50 (x3 - x,y,z) coordinates and pass that on to the TACPAC guys. Awesome! LOL

 

[Milton Shupe]

Be glad to help. I run FS2004 and FSX.

Assuming a single shot saluting cannon will be incorporated, would it be possible to have
a single deck broadside available..?

The side by side comparison screen shots are breath taking.

Thanks for undertaking this project...

Milt, anything, anytime. I have so many of your planes, I am eternally grateful !
I have Steam FSX, P3D 3, and 4.
Sue

Thank you; I appreciate any help you all can give in any sim FSX plus.

 

[Milton Shupe]

Rob and I have also talked about AI and multiplayer needs. Is there specific interest in AI? In MP?

We can resolve the sails visibility issue in MP if anyone uses that with other players.

Your thoughts appreciated.

 

[Seahawk72s]

Mmmmmmmm

Not quite real but nice effect..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0KE-Vo0I0E

 

[rohan]

Your thoughts appreciated.

AI - yes, please.

MP - no thanks.

 

[stoney]

As to coloring, this video might prove enlightening. "HMS Victory in her True Colours"; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmNXRWtQ-P0

 

[Seahawk72s]

As to coloring, this video might prove enlightening. "HMS Victory in her True Colours"; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmNXRWtQ-P0

Nice catch....

 

[Milton Shupe]

Very nice indeed. I know it's WIP, but is it not a little high out of the water ?


Below is a painting by Geoff Hunt, with HMS Victory leading, to illustrate:

Paul, Here is a question for both you and Stoney: having set this picture and my Desktop background for two days, I finally came to notice that the port side studsails are deployed, but not the starboard side. I assume that these ships of the line are preparing battle on the starboard side? Very interesting that only one side with that square yardage would be deployed.

 

[xpelekis]

If Bounty was just excellent, this is going to be epic... AIs yes & why not some MP naval battling ?...

 

[Milton Shupe]

Lots of progress so far with all sails, foot ropes, flags animations, visibility options working. Updates to deck parts, new rudder wheel, mast braces, and all new FSX native materials (still have bumps/specs to add).

The biggest thing left is getting the animated running rigging in place, a tedious and time consuming task adding/animating/visibly controlling about 72 parts and adjusting another 12-15..

Once that is done, we will have pretty much all the features that were present on the Bounty working on the Victory.

There are several new features not yet implemented or working but those will come easy once Rob is available.

So, great progress and she is looking sweet.

Here are a few random shots.

Thanks for your interest.

 

[llanning08]

Milton,

To fight on the starboard side, they wanted to reduce the clutter which could result by battle damage to the starboard sails and rigging collapsing onto the starboard gun decks, blocking their cannon fire. Also it provided better view for the marine sharpshooters aloft to fire onto the enemy decks as the ships grew closer abeam as the battle moved towards actual boarding of the enemy ship. One didn't want the starboard sails and rigging interfering with the final stages of the battle. Should the warship need to disengage, the port side sails would be necessary to make way, as the mainsails might very likely have serious battle damage.

Another advantage would be to provide more starboard turning force and speed, should it become necessary to ram the enemy or disrupt the enemy line.

Just my thoughts as a retired soldier.

 

[stoney]

It has been my observation that asymmetrical deployment studingsail or stunsail was not unusual on any ship that had them. Depends on wind condtions and efforts to keep the ship in trim.

 

[stoney]

While building my Victory model I read that Nelson the had all the fleets mast bands repainted from the traditional black to the whole mast color. This was to help identify friend from foe during the Battle. Comes under the heading of Trafalgar trivia.

 

[llanning08]

Stoney,

That seems to be an authoritative explanation of the use of the studding sail! Sure looks like an effective trim aid, and to make better way in a light wind as well, when rigged on both sides.

I also still see military advantage to rigging a Man-o-War's studding sails while going into the line of battle. If you look close, you see that the starboard mainsails of each ship have been sort of pulled up (or reefed?) out of the way to provide yet more clearance on the "battle side".

In any case, it certainly presents a formidable sight whist sailing in the line of battle!