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Infinity T-38A and T-38C for MSFS 2024 released

ColoKent

ColoKent

SOH-CM-2025
Aerodynamics has released a T-38A/C model for MSFS 2024. Here is the link to their site:

Infinity MSFS

www.infinity-simulations.com www.infinity-simulations.com

I've bought it, and it's a bit of a wonky install, as they have their own "Infinity Manager" that seems at first glance like a real PITA. I managed to install the airplane, register it, and I've been trying to fly it around the pattern...but the throttle control seems screwed up with a mind of it's own (constantly goes to FULL AB, no matter what the throttle axis position is on my modest Logitech Extreme 3d joystick/throttle). And of course, their link to Discord doesn't work (yet?) so it is difficult to get assistance. ~$30 USD...Visual model looks superb. Still in the early minutes of screwing around with it...if they release a paintkit, and I can figure out how to make the throttles work correctly...I think it has potential.

Kent

EDIT: My throttle problem was self inflicted. I inadvertently had “Toggle Afterburner” assigned to a key. After I fixed that…it flew pretty much like a T-38, but was very unstable…at least part of which I attribute to 2024…since so far, it seems like nearly everything flies like garbage in 2024. I really want to like 2024…but it’s often not cooperating! As for the paint kit, I asked the developer, and he said “We’ll see…” (which I think is the Gen Z equivalent of “No”…). Still considering Blackbird’s soon to be released T-38A…to pair with Miltech’s U-2R/S as a “mission set”.
 
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I worked with Milviz on their T-38A and later on the USAF's T-38C model. I don't know how much "C" model's FDE magic they were allowed to bring over from the dedicated USAF model, but the T-38C was a dream to fly. I plan on waiting for the Milviz model. I just hope they don't dumb it down for M$ and the space cadet crowd. That will pi$$ me off.
 
jmig said:
I worked with Milviz on their T-38A and later on the USAF's T-38C model. I don't know how much "C" model's FDE magic they were allowed to bring over from the dedicated USAF model, but the T-38C was a dream to fly. I plan on waiting for the Milviz model. I just hope they don't dumb it down for M$ and the space cadet crowd. That will pi$$ me off.
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I'm not overwhelmed with the Infinity T-38 so far. I've only flown the -A variant (Haven't flown the -C yet). I feel like the controls are very skittish (overly sensitive)...although part or all of this could be a need to create a T-38-specific profile in 2024 for the airplane since IMHO, everything except the Albatross seems to be overly sensitive (The T-33 does okay...but even it is a bit sensitive). I'm 99% sure I'm going to get the Blackbird T-38A as well (I like the steam gauges better than the glass...which is why I've only flown the Infinity -A thus far). Bottom line is that I still like the feel of airplanes in 2020 more than 2024.
 
ColoKent said:
Aerodynamics has released a T-38A/C model for MSFS 2024. Here is the link to their site:

Infinity MSFS

www.infinity-simulations.com www.infinity-simulations.com

I've bought it, and it's a bit of a wonky install, as they have their own "Infinity Manager" that seems at first glance like a real PITA. I managed to install the airplane, register it, and I've been trying to fly it around the pattern...but the throttle control seems screwed up with a mind of it's own (constantly goes to FULL AB, no matter what the throttle axis position is on my modest Logitech Extreme 3d joystick/throttle). And of course, their link to Discord doesn't work (yet?) so it is difficult to get assistance. ~$30 USD...Visual model looks superb. Still in the early minutes of screwing around with it...if they release a paintkit, and I can figure out how to make the throttles work correctly...I think it has potential.

Kent

EDIT: My throttle problem was self inflicted. I inadvertently had “Toggle Afterburner” assigned to a key. After I fixed that…it flew pretty much like a T-38, but was very unstable…at least part of which I attribute to 2024…since so far, it seems like nearly everything flies like garbage in 2024. I really want to like 2024…but it’s often not cooperating! As for the paint kit, I asked the developer, and he said “We’ll see…” (which I think is the Gen Z equivalent of “No”…). Still considering Blackbird’s soon to be released T-38A…to pair with Miltech’s U-2R/S as a “mission set”.
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I had the same issue with a couple of other add-ons (one being the freeware Rafale M), until I figured it it was do to that same assignment. Having said that, I'm waiting for the Blackbird T-38 release before making any decision. Thanks for your feedback on this model. PS: Same on the 'A' model steam gauges, as it's what I trained on in UPT back in the day.
 
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I had the same issue with a couple of other add-ons (one being the freeware Rafale M), until I figured it it was do to that same assignment. Having said that, I'm waiting for the Blackbird T-38 release before making any decision. Thanks for your feedback on this model. PS: Same on the 'A' model steam gauges, as it's what I trained on in UPT back in the day.
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Yeah...I was commissioned in 1983 (young compared to John!!!), and the -As were what the AF and NASA were flying...so I am drawn to that. Hope you are staying warm. It was nippy this morning down here at 0430 as I headed to Orange Theory!
 
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Yeah...I was commissioned in 1983 (young compared to John!!!), and the -As were what the AF and NASA were flying...so I am drawn to that. Hope you are staying warm. It was nippy this morning down here at 0430 as I headed to Orange Theory!
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Pretty cold here as well. Mid teens in the AM the last couple of days. I get why people retire to more southerly locations.
 
With the PS5 version of FS24 shipping on Friday and the T-38 being a preorder bonus for that, I’d expect to see the MS/Milviz version released this week or next. Probably $20, $15 for Premium/Deluxe owners. T-38A only, but given its pedigree, likely a really solid simulation. So I’m going to hold off.

Plus the Infinity Manager thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth… I understand why DRM is necessary as this genre is chalk full of piracy, but I need to hear more about that thing not causing issues before I consider using it.
 
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DennyA said:
With the PS5 version of FS24 shipping on Friday and the T-38 being a preorder bonus for that, I’d expect to see the MS/Milviz version released this week or next. Probably $20, $15 for Premium/Deluxe owners. T-38A only, but given its pedigree, likely a really solid simulation. So I’m going to hold off.

Plus the Infinity Manager thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth… I understand why DRM is necessary as this genre is chalk full of piracy, but I need to hear more about that thing not causing issues before I consider using it.
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Spot on. I'm still wrestling with the Infinity T-38 (nothing better to do at the moment!), but I agree...really not a fan of Infinity Manager. The Blackbird T-38A still looks like the best bet.
 
Update: a couple of days in, I am becoming happier (translation: more proficient) with the Infinity T-38, and beginning to realize that part of my flight control and drift issues are likely to my cheap(ish) integrated joystick/throttle (Logitech Extreme 3D) and possible wear in the device. I'm beginning to think that my 5 year old Logitech is no longer precise enough for the Talon. Still waiting for baited breath for the Blackbird T-38A...but not yet ready to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" regarding the Infinity version.
 
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I'd like to see both of those for sure. Someone asked on their Discord about a paintkit and it sounds like it's at the stage of "we need to look into that..."

I hope it gets more repaint love than the SC/DC Designs F-5. Dean was cool enough to do a low-vis RCAF F-5, but never saw the silver and other schemes I was hoping for.
 
Installed and flown a few patterns. Flies great for me. However, in external view the wheels have wicked jitters. Looking forward to Blackbird version since I was totally addicted to that bird.
 
ColoKent said:
Update: a couple of days in, I am becoming happier (translation: more proficient) with the Infinity T-38, and beginning to realize that part of my flight control and drift issues are likely to my cheap(ish) integrated joystick/throttle (Logitech Extreme 3D) and possible wear in the device. I'm beginning to think that my 5 year old Logitech is no longer precise enough for the Talon. Still waiting for baited breath for the Blackbird T-38A...but not yet ready to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" regarding the Infinity version.
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*Whispers in Kent's ear* Wingwin, or is it Winwing... I have four of their devices, including throttle and stick. I find them to be ourstanding units. Smooth and accurate.
 
John - Your timing is PERFECT. I was just over on Amazon looking at joysticks and found nothing that floated my boat, so to speak...off to look Winwing...Thanks for the tip!
 
Thanks John and Navy Chief-- I just pulled the trigger on Winwing's URSA MINOR Fighter Joystick (great review videos on You Tube). If I like it, I'll probably eventually splurge for their Orion2 HOTAS MAX setup (...it's expensive...but it looks WONDERFUL). And getting better with the T-38 in parallel...can't wait to pair flying it with more precise stick control.
 
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