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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

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Inibuilds / KwikFllight Archangel released

I have their... whatever they called their B-2.... and it's a fun plane for what is is. With the B-2 being so heavily classified, it's about as real as it can be anyway. No complaints for the money.

Hate that they timed this at the same time as the Blackbird Blackbird, though. Sucks to bifurcate the market when it looks like military planes are already niche-y on MSFS.

This will be the plane for the "I want to go Mach 3 in a cool looking plane!" crowd. It looks like a fun bird for people who just want to go high and fast.

The Blackbird version will be for the people who appreciate that Brian Shul was involved in their research, and know who that even was, and understand how much more of the real experience that will provide. I'll grab the SR-71 on early access, and hope that the Marketplace crowd and more casual fliers enjoy the Archangel. The BB SR-71's going to be a learning experience, and some of us appreciate that.
 
dvj said:
Having a choice is a good thing.
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A low-realism plane stealing the major part of the sales volumes from a developer who tried to make a realistic addon is not a good thing at all.
BBS invested a lot of ressources into the Backbird, which will now be sold only to the few people remaining who were waiting for it, instead of selling to everybody who simply wanted a Blackbird.
Lower quality addons get the money now. High quality addons do not. Is that good ?
 
Daube said:
A low-realism plane stealing the major part of the sales volumes from a developer who tried to make a realistic addon is not a good thing at all.
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Lower quality addons get the money now. High quality addons do not. Is that good ?
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Not at all, but it's not new - 80% of aircraft for sale on the MS Marketplace could fit that description :(
 
Daube said:
A low-realism plane stealing the major part of the sales volumes from a developer who tried to make a realistic addon is not a good thing at all.
BBS invested a lot of ressources into the Backbird, which will now be sold only to the few people remaining who were waiting for it, instead of selling to everybody who simply wanted a Blackbird.
Lower quality addons get the money now. High quality addons do not. Is that good ?
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This sums up my feelings about the Microprose B-17G, and the danger that it might have stymied Flying Iron's Fortress. For anyone who loves the B-17, Flying Iron's cancellation would be regrettable to say the least.

As for the SR-71, I'll wait for the BBS release.
 
I don’t understand this discussion. Nobody can blame Inibuilds for releasing the KwikFlight version of the SR-71. If anything you could argue that the Milviz/Blackbird version has been in development for so many years (way before MSFS 2020) and they could have released it sooner.

Choice is good and not everybody want study-level aircrafts.
 
The software business is brutal. Especially in the gaming space. Competition should result in better products, or at least a good, better, best scenario of features and pricing. Consumer choice is a beautiful thing.
 
dvj said:
Competition should result in better products,
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Excepted in this case, competition just led to lesser product quality, since it's a race to release an addon first, and the developper who takes longer for making higher quality sells less than the guys who released a lower product sooner.
 
Daube said:
Excepted in this case, competition just led to lesser product quality, since it's a race to release an addon first, and the developper who takes longer for making higher quality sells less than the guys who released a lower product sooner.
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That is just how businesses work, right?
You buy what you want and others buy what they want.
 
Montie said:
That is just how businesses work, right?
You buy what you want and others buy what they want.
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Of course I buy what I want, but I have to buy it for higher price than it should have been, because of lower sales volume. And no, I'm not happy about that.
 
DennyA said:
The Blackbird version will be for the people who appreciate that Brian Shul was involved in their research, and know who that even was...
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And for those that don't, now you do!


Daube said:
Of course I buy what I want, but I have to buy it for higher price than it should have been, because of lower sales volume. And no, I'm not happy about that.
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In my opinion, anyone selling anything that resorts to this is just shooting themselves in the foot. If demand is low, raising your price will only reduce demand.
 
Daube said:
Of course I buy what I want, but I have to buy it for higher price than it should have been, because of lower sales volume. And no, I'm not happy about that.
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Premium items with better features will cost you more. If the Blackbird SR71 were the only SR71 offering, it could command a high price premium anyway as a result of zero competition. Oh well.... happy holidays.
 
To be fair Blackbird Sims had been working on this product for way too long - I remember switching my product from an SR-71 to an A-12 just because it was clear back in 2018 that their product would surpass mine. But it's taken too long from start to finish - so if another developer comes along and pips them to the post - even with a lesser product I say fair play to them - not everyone wants a precise simulation - some people like to fly in the evening after work with little or no time to spare who will appreciate a simpler version.
 
centuryseries said:
To be fair Blackbird Sims had been working on this product for way too long - I remember switching my product from an SR-71 to an A-12 just because it was clear back in 2018 that their product would surpass mine. But it's taken too long from start to finish - so if another developer comes along and pips them to the post - even with a lesser product I say fair play to them - not everyone wants a precise simulation - some people like to fly in the evening after work with little or no time to spare who will appreciate a simpler version.
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I agree. Regarding the long development time of BB products, that has always been an issue, even when they were still Milviz. As for the "simpler" products wanted by some, I can completely relate to that. In a perfect world, quality products would have a switch "easy-in depth". But that's just me.

Priller
 
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