It is 1968 .....

Having spent 3 years of my life as part of the Weybridge design team on the beast ( I nicknamed it the Preying Mantis) its a real pity that she never saw service. It was though just at the wrong time for development of the electronics which took up all of the two bays behind the cockpit - I suspect an ipad mini would now do all of the work!
Keith
 
Thank you very much for this work Andy and Matt. My original purchase from Alphasim works quite well in FSX but I am sure I have seen a thread to get better results but can't find such a thread now.
 
Dudes!!

Thanks very much guys, looking AWESOME (I know I'm to old to use that word, but my son likes 'Kung Fu Panda', what can I say?)

:running: to get them.

Ta much,Jamie
 
Just a thought on its simple beauty........Where would one put all the modern sensors (warts etc) that make up current aircraft warning & self defense systems - Infra Red, UV missile sensors, Flare & Chaff dispensers, decoy targets......Jammers etc.....
Keith
 
one possibility would be like Typhoon with its DASS pods, RWR in the fin wouldn't detract from it's beauty either.... but things like IR Designators... well i suppose you'd have to get centreline/45 to centreline pylons to mount things like that (Raptor Pod etc...) :icon_lol:
 
Tom Burnside said:
I have downloaded pack 1 and there are only 3 screenshots available is there any chance of some shots of all the repaints.
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To be honest Tom, making the screenshots takes time, getting the screen captures & then tweaking if necessary; I didn't want to delay the release any longer, which is why I just went with small amounts. I'm "real world" busy at the moment, but could try & get some more this evening although I was going to use that time to work on the Lago Tonka repaint - let us see how it runs.
 
AndyG43 said:
To be honest Tom, making the screenshots takes time, getting the screen captures & then tweaking if necessary; I didn't want to delay the release any longer, which is why I just went with small amounts. I'm "real world" busy at the moment, but could try & get some more this evening although I was going to use that time to work on the Lago Tonka repaint - let us see how it runs.
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Ok Andy didnt realise you was so busy.
 
just started work on the Aussie birds, as they had an initial order for 30.... they regretted the F-111 when they got it due to spiraling costs etc. as i recall....
 
Matt Wynn said:
just started work on the Aussie birds, as they had an initial order for 30.... they regretted the F-111 when they got it due to spiraling costs etc. as i recall....
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Thought they would TSR2 was so much better and if im right the test pilot said that it was progressing very well.
 
it was leaps and bounds better than anything out there at the time... the US actually had a bit of a fear over it being so good... the F-111 was a good aircraft, but by the time the Australians got it it was massively over budget and was just a shadow of what TSR.2 proved it could be... TSR.2 did have it's flaws... that 'stalky' undercarriage had a nice habit of wobbling around a bit on landing, but thanks to the blown flaps i believe it's said the TSR.2 could take off in just 600Yds (i've played golf holes close to that length!)
 
Matt Wynn said:
it was leaps and bounds better than anything out there at the time... the US actually had a bit of a fear over it being so good... the F-111 was a good aircraft, but by the time the Australians got it it was massively over budget and was just a shadow of what TSR.2 proved it could be... TSR.2 did have it's flaws... that 'stalky' undercarriage had a nice habit of wobbling around a bit on landing, but thanks to the blown flaps i believe it's said the TSR.2 could take off in just 600Yds (i've played golf holes close to that length!)
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Absolutely. They had vibration issues with the fuel pumps and the undercarriage, but fixes were in the pipeline for both; the fuel pump issue was the reason Roly Beamont only lit the single 'burner on the 14th flight and still, as I mentioned above, left the chase Lightning in it's wake - the Lightning pilot did eventually catch up, but only using full burner and experiencing a very uncomfortable ride at such low level. I

ncidentally, the 14th flight was the first time she went supersonic, and she did that 'dry' (i.e. without the use of reheat - supercruise!!) before Roly used lit up and took the plane to Mach 1.12. In the limited number of flights they demonstrated that they could manage supersonic speeds at low level (200 feet through the Pennines) with rock solid stability - as they say now, doing what it says on the tin!
 
The TSR.2 was the best aircraft, and the best option at the time, everybody knew it. It's matchless performance could not be challenged by any other aircraft. Even over the F-111, which, after all "fixes" were implemented, eventually turned out to be a very good airplane, still the TSR.2 had it beat. Seems that there were a couple of other incidences where planes like the TSR.2 lost out due to political influences. One of which was the Martin Baker MB.5, the other was Northrop's F-20 Tiger Shark.

Any aircraft in the early stages of development is going to have issues that need to be addressed. The TSR.2 had it's share, but initially proved what it was capable of... prior to having the fixes implemented, (landing gear and fuel pumps, as mentioned above). Having an aircraft the size of the TSR.2 being able to "supercruise" without afterburner was a phenomenal achievement for the time. Just my bit...

BB686:USA-flag:
 
I remember hearing somewhere that when TSR2 was around Americas dream of everyone will buy our aircraft was a dream. I truly believe if TSR2 had entered service everyone would have it (except America cause they think there best at everything :icon_lol:). Plus maybe the US would be as successful in the military aviation world as they are today some people say if it had TSR2 would still be in service even today.
 
Superb, but you never finished the opening What If? Scenario:

SAIGON, December 24th 1971: The fall of Hanoi and complete capitulation of all remaining Viet Cong and allied Chinese and Soviet forces is announced this morning. Aided by close air support from elite RAF and Commonwealth air-to-ground strike squadrons which have perfected their tactics (originally developed in the Middle East, but successfully re-applied to jungle warfare) units of the SAS, US and South Vietnamese Special Forces entered the enemy capital on Thursday. Generals Giap, Chong and Vassiliev were captured and surrendered in their bunker while attempting a feeble last ditch defence of Hanoi, codenamed 'Operation Dien Bien Phu'. Last remaining VC forces are currently being mopped up and sent for special De-communization training in the south. Happy Christmas, War is over.
 
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