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Khalkhin-Gol Incident-USSR
- Thread starter Shadow Wolf 07
- Start date
Roxane-21
SOH-CM-2023
Thicko's SB-2-100 is available here at SOH: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=51&id=636
Shadow Wolf 07
SOH-CM-2025
Thank you Roxane-21. 
I missed that one. I've downloaded it and installed most, if not all of the planes I will need, installed the scenery and gsl., modified the airbases.dat file. Next, I'll fly around some of the bases and see if any changes are needed. 
I missed that one. I've downloaded it and installed most, if not all of the planes I will need, installed the scenery and gsl., modified the airbases.dat file. Next, I'll fly around some of the bases and see if any changes are needed.
Shadow Wolf 07
SOH-CM-2025
I've made some progress and finished 3 missions. The only issues I have are with the terrain. I have maps which show some terrain features clearly marked, but the CFS2 world has no lakes, hills or rivers. 
I am using the bases from xavierb's Nomonhan campaign as points of reference. I may need to build and add some.
I intend to build 2 campaigns - Soviet first, then the Japanese side. I am trying various models of unfamiliar aircraft, for example the SOV I-15. One model that I like, seen in the screen shots, is highly maneuverable, but its firepower borders on fantasy. I am currently looking at another to see if it fits the bill before I go monkeying with dp files. I haven't chosen a favorite I-16 yet either.
One of our members was courteous enough to inform me of some omissions on the downloads readme of my recent Saratoga campaign. I will fix that and get back to USSR vs Japan - 1939.
Photos: taking off; enroute; 1st kill; 2nd kill; 5th (? way too much firepower I felt) kill.
Cheers:
SW07
I am using the bases from xavierb's Nomonhan campaign as points of reference. I may need to build and add some. I intend to build 2 campaigns - Soviet first, then the Japanese side. I am trying various models of unfamiliar aircraft, for example the SOV I-15. One model that I like, seen in the screen shots, is highly maneuverable, but its firepower borders on fantasy. I am currently looking at another to see if it fits the bill before I go monkeying with dp files. I haven't chosen a favorite I-16 yet either.
One of our members was courteous enough to inform me of some omissions on the downloads readme of my recent Saratoga campaign. I will fix that and get back to USSR vs Japan - 1939.
Photos: taking off; enroute; 1st kill; 2nd kill; 5th (? way too much firepower I felt) kill.
Cheers:
SW07
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Roxane-21
SOH-CM-2023
Don't forget you are fighting Japanese aircraft. You could shoot them down with a .45.
Shadow Wolf 07
SOH-CM-2025
Is there a list of the aircraft names to match the Campaign? and a update on the install instructions. Thanks for any help.
Hi Marty:
Install instructions for what?
My campaign is just in the planning phase with only 6 missions completed. I am using the bases from xavierb's campaign (links above) and probably will build a few more. My references mostly are gleaned from the book: "Air War Over Khalkhin-Gol" and Wikipedia sources for dates, locations, numbers and types of aircraft as well as the background for the missions themselves. .
I've got a ways to go yet. I am building missions for the Soviet side first, with the player flying by random choice an I-15 series biplane or an I-16 variant. Thus each engagement requires 2 missions be built. There will be a mix of fighter on fighter, bomber, bomber escort and ground attack missions in varied aircraft. Then I have to do the Japanese side.
Cheers:
SW07
Shadow Wolf 07
SOH-CM-2025
Weekly Update:
I'm making slow, but steady progress. I have finished and flight tested 9 missions so far out of a probable 40-50 total for the Soviet/Mongolian side. I was having some problems with guns/cannon/ammo (resolved) and with radio comms and messages. It seemed that no mater which plane I flew, there were no radio comms between me and my wingmen and no background chatter from ai at all. I looked at dp files, cfg files and everywhere and finally noticed on the country.cfg the nationality needed to be USA, JPN, BRI or GER for the chatter to work. I had written in SOV. i changed it to USA and now my wingmen do answer when I relay commands. I may change it again to BRI, just to get less of a Yank accent.
The material I have is very detailed on dates, number of aircraft, unit and outcomes with losses but not so detailed for starting/landing bases and engagement locations. So in some cases I have to use a best guess. Thanks to all of you for your help and suggestions.
Cheers:
SW07
I'm making slow, but steady progress. I have finished and flight tested 9 missions so far out of a probable 40-50 total for the Soviet/Mongolian side. I was having some problems with guns/cannon/ammo (resolved) and with radio comms and messages. It seemed that no mater which plane I flew, there were no radio comms between me and my wingmen and no background chatter from ai at all. I looked at dp files, cfg files and everywhere and finally noticed on the country.cfg the nationality needed to be USA, JPN, BRI or GER for the chatter to work. I had written in SOV. i changed it to USA and now my wingmen do answer when I relay commands. I may change it again to BRI, just to get less of a Yank accent.
The material I have is very detailed on dates, number of aircraft, unit and outcomes with losses but not so detailed for starting/landing bases and engagement locations. So in some cases I have to use a best guess. Thanks to all of you for your help and suggestions.
Cheers:
SW07
Another Nomonhan source
Hi Shadow Wolf,
another other source (which you nmay already have of course) is:
Author: Dimitar Nedialkov
Title: In the skies of Nomonhan : Japan versus Russia May -Septrember 1939
Publisher: Crecy Publishing
I bought a copy a few years back and remmber enjoyign reading it, but whether it'll help with starting/landing airfileds I don't know. I'll try and have a look in the next few days. It does have a lot of useful info based on a quick scan.
Cheers,
SW
Hi Shadow Wolf,
another other source (which you nmay already have of course) is:
Author: Dimitar Nedialkov
Title: In the skies of Nomonhan : Japan versus Russia May -Septrember 1939
Publisher: Crecy Publishing
I bought a copy a few years back and remmber enjoyign reading it, but whether it'll help with starting/landing airfileds I don't know. I'll try and have a look in the next few days. It does have a lot of useful info based on a quick scan.
Cheers,
SW
Shadow Wolf 07
SOH-CM-2025
Hi SW:
Thanks, I would gratefully accept an info you can point out or send. I'll see if I can find that source you mentioned.
Cheers:
Greg
Thanks, I would gratefully accept an info you can point out or send. I'll see if I can find that source you mentioned.
Cheers:
Greg
Shadow Wolf 07
SOH-CM-2025
One peculiarity: When I fly over one of the lakes in the Nomonhan region, I get this... sharp, rectangular shorelines. Now, I have done the usual and copied all my scenedb/world/textures to my main, cfs2 Textures folder. Still. I get these shorelines. The scenery is fine in all other respects. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this? Thanks...
The scenery is fine in all other respects. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this? Thanks... Attachments
re: Another Nomonhan source
Hi all,
I was looking at these Nomonhan sources to see which might be more helpful for campaigns, I'd have to say there is no clear winner although I'm inclining toward the "In the skies of Nomonhan" title in terms of detail.
I thought if anyone interested might be considering buying one of these books a quick summary might be helpful:
+++++
Author: Dimitar Nedialkov
Title: In the skies of Nomonhan : Japan versus Russia May -September 1939
Publisher: Crecy Publishing
Published: 2005 & 2011
212 pages (including index)
of which 8 pages of aircraft profiles
47 pages aircraft technical data
more text based
+++++
Author: Vladimir Kolnetikov
Title: Air War Over Khalkhin Gol : The Nomonhan Incident
Publisher: SAM Publications
Published: 2010
112 pages (including index) - note these are larger pages than "In the skies of"
of which 18 pages of aircraft profiles
26 pages aircraft technical data
A _lot_ more photographs. Better maps I would say.
++++
Overall hard to choose a better book, "Air war over" probably is the better intro and with the many photos more attractive (I'm a simple man, I like pictures!), but "In the skies of" is probably better for detail.
Shadow Wolf I'll send you a PM later.
cheers,
SW
Hi all,
I was looking at these Nomonhan sources to see which might be more helpful for campaigns, I'd have to say there is no clear winner although I'm inclining toward the "In the skies of Nomonhan" title in terms of detail.
I thought if anyone interested might be considering buying one of these books a quick summary might be helpful:
+++++
Author: Dimitar Nedialkov
Title: In the skies of Nomonhan : Japan versus Russia May -September 1939
Publisher: Crecy Publishing
Published: 2005 & 2011
212 pages (including index)
of which 8 pages of aircraft profiles
47 pages aircraft technical data
more text based
+++++
Author: Vladimir Kolnetikov
Title: Air War Over Khalkhin Gol : The Nomonhan Incident
Publisher: SAM Publications
Published: 2010
112 pages (including index) - note these are larger pages than "In the skies of"
of which 18 pages of aircraft profiles
26 pages aircraft technical data
A _lot_ more photographs. Better maps I would say.
++++
Overall hard to choose a better book, "Air war over" probably is the better intro and with the many photos more attractive (I'm a simple man, I like pictures!), but "In the skies of" is probably better for detail.
Shadow Wolf I'll send you a PM later.
cheers,
SW
Shadow Wolf 07
SOH-CM-2025
Shadow Wolf 07
SOH-CM-2025
Weekly Update:
Hi:
I have done a total of 10 missions - 2 for each campaign mission - 5 for the I=15 and 5 for the I-16. I am currently working to fix mission 4 and 4a. These require a bit of trial and error work. The scenario has a regiment of I-15s and I-16s launching to intercept a squadron of IJAAF planes in Mongolian airspace. The Japanese planes flee, leading the SOVs into a trap, where they get jumped by a larger force of IJAAF planes. The "ambush" requires perfect timing, as I have to time the launch of the IJAAF planes, from their bases north and south of the ambush to meet the SOV planes at the ambush point. Thus I have to build, test fly, adjust, test fly again, etc. I decided to do this one Rami style, a bit more complicated than an air start with spawning. Then, after the the ambush initiates, another regiment of Soviet planes, dispatched by alert forward air controllers, arrives just in time to save the day.
Also, the actual numbers of aircraft in this engagement was over 140. To make it CFS2 compatible, I cut the number of planes down to 70+. I just finished, what I hope will be after I test fly ithis afternoon, the last revision. Then I will move on to the 11 and 12 set of missions.
I anticipate building, as I said before, 40-50 missions total for a Soviet campaign of 20-25 random I-15/I-16 mission pairs. Then I will turn around and go through xavierb's Japanese based campaign missions and revise, replace or add my own to them. And for you ground pounders, I'll be doing a number of ground attack missions for both sides too.
I admit I've been lazy. I'm taking much longer to do this one than I expected, but I will get it done. I've already completed one of the supporting README documents - the campaign description - and while I work on the missions, I will work on the required downloads README.
Cheers:
SW07
Hi:
I have done a total of 10 missions - 2 for each campaign mission - 5 for the I=15 and 5 for the I-16. I am currently working to fix mission 4 and 4a. These require a bit of trial and error work. The scenario has a regiment of I-15s and I-16s launching to intercept a squadron of IJAAF planes in Mongolian airspace. The Japanese planes flee, leading the SOVs into a trap, where they get jumped by a larger force of IJAAF planes. The "ambush" requires perfect timing, as I have to time the launch of the IJAAF planes, from their bases north and south of the ambush to meet the SOV planes at the ambush point. Thus I have to build, test fly, adjust, test fly again, etc. I decided to do this one Rami style, a bit more complicated than an air start with spawning. Then, after the the ambush initiates, another regiment of Soviet planes, dispatched by alert forward air controllers, arrives just in time to save the day.
Also, the actual numbers of aircraft in this engagement was over 140. To make it CFS2 compatible, I cut the number of planes down to 70+. I just finished, what I hope will be after I test fly ithis afternoon, the last revision. Then I will move on to the 11 and 12 set of missions.
I anticipate building, as I said before, 40-50 missions total for a Soviet campaign of 20-25 random I-15/I-16 mission pairs. Then I will turn around and go through xavierb's Japanese based campaign missions and revise, replace or add my own to them. And for you ground pounders, I'll be doing a number of ground attack missions for both sides too.
I admit I've been lazy. I'm taking much longer to do this one than I expected, but I will get it done. I've already completed one of the supporting README documents - the campaign description - and while I work on the missions, I will work on the required downloads README.
Cheers:
SW07
Shadow Wolf 07
SOH-CM-2025
I need a favor:
I need an airbase - Bain Tumen, Mongolia, N 48 06' 32" E 114 33' 52" , two, east and west dirt runways, elev (?), heading (?), length (?). I need this to base my 150th SB-2 bomber regiment to launch strikes against and be attacked by the Japanese. These are all the data I could find on this base and I would have to use my own meager artistic abilities to orient and select size and layout of the base.
There are much more talented airbase builders than I out there and I thought to put out the word before I roll up my sleeves and relearl how to do this.. Any volunteers?
SW07
I need an airbase - Bain Tumen, Mongolia, N 48 06' 32" E 114 33' 52" , two, east and west dirt runways, elev (?), heading (?), length (?). I need this to base my 150th SB-2 bomber regiment to launch strikes against and be attacked by the Japanese. These are all the data I could find on this base and I would have to use my own meager artistic abilities to orient and select size and layout of the base.
There are much more talented airbase builders than I out there and I thought to put out the word before I roll up my sleeves and relearl how to do this..
Any volunteers? SW07
Shadow Wolf 07
SOH-CM-2025
Our great friend and wingman, UncleTgt in no time at all created a base = twin runways with 4 start points, refuel etc for the campaign. I populated the base with GSL infrastructure and am happily flying in and out of there. With his permission, I'll include it in my final product upload. I'll post some screenshots later.
Meanwhile, I'm still workin on that large mission. I have a new start point, thanks to UT, fine-tuned the altitudes and speeds of each flight and made some payload changes. Now I am working to get the escorts to link up at the rendezvous point on time. I'm doing this one so the player will also have a random chance at leading a bomber flight or a fighter-escort.
Meanwhile, I'm still workin on that large mission. I have a new start point, thanks to UT, fine-tuned the altitudes and speeds of each flight and made some payload changes. Now I am working to get the escorts to link up at the rendezvous point on time. I'm doing this one so the player will also have a random chance at leading a bomber flight or a fighter-escort.
Shadow Wolf 07
SOH-CM-2025
UncleTgt
SOH-CM-2025
Greg,
My CFS2 "world" is set up to use Dvslat's FSX style textures (darker jungle greens), & I added some to fill in any gaps left. Download links are as follows:
Dvslats FSX style textures (darker jungle greens)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=45&id=6051
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=45&id=6052
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=45&id=6053
UncleTgt - filling in the gaps left by Dvslats reworking)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=45&id=2937
My CFS2 "world" is set up to use Dvslat's FSX style textures (darker jungle greens), & I added some to fill in any gaps left. Download links are as follows:
Dvslats FSX style textures (darker jungle greens)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=45&id=6051
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=45&id=6052
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=45&id=6053
UncleTgt - filling in the gaps left by Dvslats reworking)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=45&id=2937
Shadow Wolf 07
SOH-CM-2025
I need a pair of .bgls - Max_russian_weapons_pak
I am using the simTECH_I16_Rata for my next mission and have some missing weaps: dag_rs82 and the dag_rs132 from the Max_russian_weapons_pak. I have the (objects) dps but the bgls for these 2 weapons are not in the d/l. Does anyone have them?
I am using the simTECH_I16_Rata for my next mission and have some missing weaps: dag_rs82 and the dag_rs132 from the Max_russian_weapons_pak. I have the (objects) dps but the bgls for these 2 weapons are not in the d/l. Does anyone have them?