London-Melbourne 2014: P3D

spokes2112 said:
SkippyBing,

Absolutely BRILLIANT! One thing that would be nice, especially for upcoming RTW races. Could you include FSX connections (SP2/Accell) & P3Dv1 too? The reason is that who knows if the Jeppesen servers will ever go belly up, many, including myself, feel it's inevitable . The racers would have to revert to an external program for WX and this would validate the WX with better precision than just seeing if the wind has changed via the duenna tracking. One other thing, following a slew toggle might be a good thing to follow as Duenna will invalidate the flight after one. No need to keep logging right?

Sorry, no other input, no P3D.

Roman
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Roman,

It shouldn't be too hard to make it work for FSX etc. I don't think I've used any P3D v2 specific calls so it's just a case of recompiling with the older API. I'll add a slew toggle tomorrow, that shouldn't be a problem either.

Skippy
 
Loaded P3DV2.4 and the loaded the P3D Marshall program and this is what I got immediately after the Dos window appeared:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: P3D Marshall.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 54428490
Fault Module Name: StackHash_d5d5
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.18247
Fault Module Timestamp: 521ea8e7
Exception Code: c0000374
Exception Offset: 000ce753
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: d5d5
Additional Information 2: d5d58bd78768a32b4db9b47fb3bedfba
Additional Information 3: b5c6
Additional Information 4: b5c6b9ea2f3cdbf44b6db89f2f2d9a0e

Odd, because the previous version I tested was fine.
 
Closed P3D and restarted....this time the Marshaller started, showed text in Dos window. Started Duenna (manually) and flew a short flight and landed, reset Duenna and got the text and map images. Closed P3D but no log file for the Marshaller.
 
Tried another flight. New P3D Startup, started Marshaller and it locked up, closed it and tried again. . .this time it started, got the text. Took off and about 200ft off the rwy the Marshaller locked up again with this message:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: P3D Marshall.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 54428490
Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.18247
Fault Module Timestamp: 521ea8e7
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0003332f
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
 
Ed,

Thanks for testing it, I'll see if I can figure out what's happening tomorrow.
Where are you running the programme from?
 
SkippyBing said:
Ed,

Thanks for testing it, I'll see if I can figure out what's happening tomorrow.
Where are you running the programme from?
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No problem, I was surprised when I had problems with it because the earlier one I tested for you worked fine. I run it from the desktop (shortcut).
 
Ed,

Or indeed anyone else! New version attached, I can't guarantee it'll solve the issues you had but as it actually closes properly on my system I'm hoping that was part of the same problem.
It should also work in FSX but I haven't tested that yet, it won't read the FSX.cfg file though as that didn't seem important at this stage.

Skippy

View attachment P3D Marshall.zip
 
Ok Skippy,
A bit of confusion on my part. After the flight is complete, do I allow the marshall program to remain running and close P3D over it. . .or do I close the marshall program, then close P3D? Either way, attached are the (3) "tmp" files that were generated after I closed the Marshall program.
 
Ok, ran it again. Completed a short circuit around the airport and landed. Allowed the program to continue running and closed P3D. Here is the text file.
 
falcon409 said:
Ok Skippy,
A bit of confusion on my part. After the flight is complete, do I allow the marshall program to remain running and close P3D over it. . .or do I close the marshall program, then close P3D? Either way, attached are the (3) "tmp" files that were generated after I closed the Marshall program.
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Sorry, probably my poor explanation! You need to close P3D first, which should then trigger the marshal program to combine the three 'tmp' files into a txt file. Oddly your position and weather 'tmp' files don't have any info in them, just the stuff that's put in there when they're created.

Just seen your reply, the txt file doesn't have any data in either, I'll have to think about what might be causing that. When it's running is there a load of info being displayed in the DOS window?
 
SkippyBing said:
. . . . .Just seen your reply, the txt file doesn't have any data in either, I'll have to think about what might be causing that. When it's running is there a load of info being displayed in the DOS window?
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No it just displays the initial header with the realism settings and that's it.
 
falcon409 said:
No it just displays the initial header with the realism settings and that's it.
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Is there a line saying it's connected to P3D?

If you start the program after you've got in the aircraft the marshal doesn't know to start asking for data, so never does. Basically the act of entering the sim proper is what nudges it to start requesting data, you can get round this by opening a menu item but the best process is to open the marshal before P3D and close it after, if that makes sense.

I've just recreated your txt file by starting the marshal after I got in game so I'm hoping that's what's happened!
 
SkippyBing said:
Is there a line saying it's connected to P3D?

If you start the program after you've got in the aircraft the marshal doesn't know to start asking for data, so never does. Basically the act of entering the sim proper is what nudges it to start requesting data, you can get round this by opening a menu item but the best process is to open the marshal before P3D and close it after, if that makes sense.

I've just recreated your txt file by starting the marshal after I got in game so I'm hoping that's what's happened!
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Yep, again. . .old age creeps in. . .I misunderstood the instructions. I'll run one more!
 
falcon409 said:
Success!! Here ya go Skippy!
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Excellent! Thanks Ed that seems to have worked as planned.
I need to make a couple of tweaks, mainly including slew detection and a checksum to confirm no editing has taken place. Not sure if it's still wanted for the race but if it is give me the nod and I'll get the final version done.
 
Gave it a go in FSX (accell) & it worked as described - it logged the "nasty" realism settings i purposely made nicely.
 
Spokes,

That's good to know thanks! I'm not sure if it'll work in anything earlier than FSX Accel as that's the SDK I used.

Version attached also checks if the slew was used and generates a checksum at the end of file.

There's a second program in the zip that'll check the checksum, it needs to stay in its sub-folder with just the log file you're checking, double click it and it'll list the file contents with the checksum it thinks should be there under the one in the file. If any editing has taken place it should show as a difference in the numbers.

View attachment P3D Marshal.zip
 
Quick question for Skippy or Ed - Have either one of you run the "Marshaller" along with Duenna? If so, did the realism boxes / output show green / all good before and after the flight(s) ? If not I may have a simple workaround that should work and give greens across the realism board. If set properly in P3D.
 
I had not previously, so I did a quick circuit. No change in the Duenna, all green except yellow for weather, red for realism. Here are the logs:
 
Thanks Ed! You da man! Will have something to test later in the afternoon. It's a hypotheses at this point but the theory should work as long as Duenna behaves in the way I think it should. I am going to use FSX mimicking P3D since they are relatively the same in regards to the theory.

Roman
 
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