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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

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MILVIZ T-38 current pics...

centuryseries said:
It looks great, but I have a few points I need clarification on:

Assuming that the paint shown with Mark Kelly's name is representing a fairly modern 2000's Nasa paint scheme.

Mark Kelly was selected to be an astronaut in 1996, and didn't get to fly the shuttle until 2001 - by which time the pitot probe had been lopped off, and the cockpits retrofitted for shuttle landing training duties. It's a minor thing, but if you're going to include a Nasa paint some folk may pick up on these details.

Indeed if this is a modern representation of the Nasa T-38N some now have the T-38C Propulsion Modernisation Program inlets and two small black aerials on top of the nose. But more importantly they don't seem to have the traditional pitot probe these days.

Will there be any model changes for a Nasa version? It seems a waste to have such great detail and paintwork with a model that is a standard T-38A?

Just my 2c. Constructive as always! :salute:
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The idea with this livery was to give a bit of honor to the astronauts, victims of insane shootings and the space program, all in one shot to speak.

We are making a T-38C and it will be available sometime after the A is released. For now though, we will be making do with the A for all liveries.

Thanks for the compliments all!
 
The NASA scheme is...

...using poetic licsence. MilViz's representation is an -A model. The good news is that NASA flew -As from 1964 to the early 2000s (the upgrades to -N were not even started until 2000).

Just as an FYI, there are at least three other JSC NASA schemes that were used when NASA was flying -A, the USAF flew the -A well into the early 2000s, the Navy flew the -A as a Top Gun sim in the 70s and early 80s, as did Portugal and South Korea (flew it in the pilot training role) So there will be plenty of subjects for repainters...

This should be fun...

Kent
 
krazycolin,

I have been holding off on many purchase's (budget ya know) just to pick this up as soon as she is available, I like when developer's are excited about there work :wavey: and your posts and the photo's show this ...:applause::applause::applause:

Thank you

doublecool
 
After much wailing and nashing-of-teeth, I finally managed to satisfy the crusty curmudgeons on the Alpha/Beta test team with the bloody gear lollipop! Man, these guys are B R U T A L taskmasters!!! :violent:

The lollipop will glow red whenever the gear warning is active, or gear is in transit and unlocked. :ernae:
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ColoKent said:
...using poetic licsence. MilViz's representation is an -A model. The good news is that NASA flew -As from 1964 to the early 2000s (the upgrades to -N were not even started until 2000).

Just as an FYI, there are at least three other JSC NASA schemes that were used when NASA was flying -A, the USAF flew the -A well into the early 2000s, the Navy flew the -A as a Top Gun sim in the 70s and early 80s, as did Portugal and South Korea (flew it in the pilot training role) So there will be plenty of subjects for repainters...

This should be fun...

Kent
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krazycolin said:
The idea with this livery was to give a bit of honor to the astronauts, victims of insane shootings and the space program, all in one shot to speak.

We are making a T-38C and it will be available sometime after the A is released. For now though, we will be making do with the A for all liveries.

Thanks for the compliments all!
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Here's what the NASA T-38N panel looks like (Don Logan's book indicates that four had completed conversion by the time he went to press in 1995). Not a T-38A anymore and certainly not a T-38C.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenn_calvin/5404906662/

Aircraft with this panel can be spotted from the outside by the longer black radome (for the weather radar) and repositioned pitot tube. N963NA was not one of the early conversions.

By the way, we have NASA to thank for the T-38C intake and exhaust changes.
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fsafranek said:
N963NA was not one of the early conversions.


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Ah yes, thanks Frank, for pointing that out. That's why Gunnar painted the Milviz T-38A using the N963NA tail number, because it's a historically accurate livery for the T-38A as used by NASA a number of years ago.

Of course, what isn't accurate is Capt Giffords name on the aft canopy.
 
Bone said:
Ah yes, thanks Frank, for pointing that out. That's why Gunnar painted the Milviz T-38A using the N963NA tail number, because it's a historically accurate livery for the T-38A as used by NASA a number of years ago.

Of course, what isn't accurate is Capt Giffords name on the aft canopy.
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Using the original panel layout also allows for repaints of the earlier NASA schemes
as well -- yellow band and "worm".
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Love the...

....Yellow Band. BTW-- apparently, NASA 960 was kept in Yellow Band well after all others had been repainted in "worm" livery. I believe one of the JSC senior AOD pilots had a liking for that scheme, and that is why they kept one painted like that.

Kent
 
Speaking of NASA. As luck would have it, I went to Houston, TX yesterday afternoon. The Rokit1 RNAV arrival with the Hobby rwy 4 transition takes you right past Ellington field. The turn to downwind for rwy 4 at Hobby happens right after you go past Ellington...that's the turn away from Ellington in the last pic.


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Yeah... Interesting pics...I'm trying to avoid payware at the moment... but then, the FSD NASA skinned T-38 was always my fav in FS9... argh....cannot....resist...must...buy...

LPXO
 
LonelyplanetXO said:
Yeah... Interesting pics...I'm trying to avoid payware at the moment... but then, the FSD NASA skinned T-38 was always my fav in FS9... argh....cannot....resist...must...buy...

LPXO
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We understand the apprehensions. We are working some stuff behind closed doors as far as a trial/demo type period on future products.. Nothing has been finalized as of yet though, so it may not make it in time for the T-38. We have had a refund policy on the 310R though that if people didn't like or had severe issues with it they could get their money back, and have their product de-activated. Just had to write us directly and explain. Granted not many people have utilized it, and I hope that means we have a lot of happy customers. I do not think people will be disappointed though with the upcoming lineup.
 
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