A far cry from that first teaser vid, isn't it..... was afraid that would happen... :costum:
cheers,
jan
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A far cry from that first teaser vid, isn't it..... was afraid that would happen... :costum:
cheers,
jan
falcon409
SOH-CM-2025
Probably because no one has closed this thread. As long as it's open people will post comments irregardless of how many others there are. There were also sections in the forum for Scenery Design, Model Design, Screenshots and so on. . .but rarely did anyone visit those let alone post anything. Where did folks post all those questions and such? In the main SOH Forum. . .force of habit.:salute:
N2056
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mmann
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I guess people like this section because it has the most viewers. Who wants to take the time to post something in an area where it might not be read.
Regards, Mike Mann
Indeed!
I couldn't agree with you more. FSX was like FS2000 happening all over again.
On a more positive note, maybe "Flight" will be less buggy, and easier on our rigs. We'll see.
And I also agree with Warchild's/Pam's comment on the narrative comments being an insult to aviation and to our beloved hobby. That and the fact that they will try to "enslave" third party addon builders by the retchid Steam thing is pretty worrying to me.
There's more: M$ almost killed our hobby by axing the Aces Studio, and now they want to "merge" us with the gaming kiddies. More insults.
We'll see what the future brings us, but I don't trust M$ one bit, not after what they did to Aces Studio (and to the general public with the monster Vista)
I'll get off me soapbox now...
I couldn't agree with you more. FSX was like FS2000 happening all over again.
On a more positive note, maybe "Flight" will be less buggy, and easier on our rigs. We'll see.
And I also agree with Warchild's/Pam's comment on the narrative comments being an insult to aviation and to our beloved hobby. That and the fact that they will try to "enslave" third party addon builders by the retchid Steam thing is pretty worrying to me.
There's more: M$ almost killed our hobby by axing the Aces Studio, and now they want to "merge" us with the gaming kiddies. More insults.
We'll see what the future brings us, but I don't trust M$ one bit, not after what they did to Aces Studio (and to the general public with the monster Vista)
I'll get off me soapbox now...
MarkH
Charter Member
I'm not sure how one can insult 'aviation' or a hobby, but this video is clearly depicting a flying lesson. If people would stop slinging mud for a moment and think about what they're seeing, this is very interesting. How else can the new Flight retain the complexity and detail of FSX while being accessible to everyone? You might reflect on this, too: those 'narrative comments' are, fairly obviously, one side of a conversation.
I predict that the next video will be the 'reveal'. Flight will be about multi-crew, instructor/student, interactive experience. Maybe even ATC.
This is my therie. M$ has developed a bit of a pattern to releasing software. It hits a home run after releasing a dud. So far they have followed this pattern with almost all products.
Windows 2.0? dud. 3.1? Win. Windows 95? Dud, 98? Win! Windows ME? Dont even get me started, Windows XP? Win! Windows Vista? Ya. Windows 7, see the pattern?
Office 2003? Great! 2007? Dud. 2010? Home run!
Flight 2000? dud. 2004? People still play it and love it! FSX? I would never call FSX a dud, but it was no home run. Steep hardware req's, plagued by DX10 problems and a difficult OS (Vista). If MS follows its patter, Flight will be a win. We can only hope!
I didnt realize Aces was the only studio capable of ever making a flight sim? Someone needs to tell 1C/Oleg, Eagle Dynamics, the DCS guys and X-plane that simming died with Aces!!! NOES! I have been "simming" for a good 20 years now, and I have seen sim companies come and go like the changing of the tides. Dynamix? Lucas Arts (SWOTL)? The list is almost endless. When one falls, another takes its place as long as the market can support it.
Like I said above, MS has a pattern, and Windows 7 redeamed MS in my eyes. I think even Windows Phone 7 will redeam them after the 6.5 turkey they hatched two years ago! We will see how things go. I dont know why your so hung up about Aces Studio though. Its not like YOU lost your job on that. Also, from the MS press release, the new studio (whatever its called) is being staffed by "many of the same creative minds that helped deliver countless entries in the “Flight Simulator”"!
Couldn't agree with you more about the M$ pattern in releasing software. Spot on!
About the other sims, especially with regard to the fiercely M$ loyal crowd we have over here, we might want to consider the market share that M$ Flightsims have. You'll find that it is big, VERY big even! So I still stand by my remarks about Steve Ballmer having tried to kill our hobby.
Major_Spittle
Charter Member
I'll consider MS Flight a success if they can just simulate wheel friction with the ground and an aircrafts balance/weight distribution in flight/stall situations.
I'm sick of not being able to steer a plane on the ground, having aircraft fall out of the sky tail first for 4000ft into the ground, or a simulation of a stall spin that rewrites the laws of physics.
Oh and damage modeling would be nice verses the sim just stopping and displaying "Crash" when you go overspeed or over-G. The people responsible for this need sacked, oh wait, they were.
I'm sick of not being able to steer a plane on the ground, having aircraft fall out of the sky tail first for 4000ft into the ground, or a simulation of a stall spin that rewrites the laws of physics.
Oh and damage modeling would be nice verses the sim just stopping and displaying "Crash" when you go overspeed or over-G. The people responsible for this need sacked, oh wait, they were.
falcon409
SOH-CM-2025
People will read into a video what they want based on what they see in front of them and what has already been presented. Thus far, the Stearman is front and center which has already made me wonder exactly what it is they're trying to portray. I'm not a great fan of that airplane or anything else of that type. I fly them occasionally, but the thought that this airplane would be the basis for their "Break Out-Introductory" video leaves me a bit bored. Also, I'm sorry, but I don't see it as an obvious conversation. . .it's a woman speaking about flying, to me, she's narrating. Also, if they do ATC. . .it better be "real" ATC and not this robotic system that we have in place right now. You can receive taxi information for an IFR flight then proceed to taxi in any direction you want including across the infield, arrive at the wrong rwy and get clearance to take off, lol. . . really? The ATC for ProPilot 98 was more sophisticated than what we have now.
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pilotdave1970
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LOL maybe it will run perfect with Vista OS....LOL
SolarEagle
Charter Member
Well I'm excited. As long as I can have pretty graphics, good flight modeling, basic systems with the option to expand, a variety of aircraft with the option to expand, all in a polished package without hitches and glitches, I'm all for it. FSX is a pain the butt.