If you familiar with air file, you can play both aircraft.cfg and air file on engine section, don't do on other stuff or will mess up overall flight behavior.
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If you familiar with air file, you can play both aircraft.cfg and air file on engine section, don't do on other stuff or will mess up overall flight behavior.
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Hi Mark,
I just use the Aileron Trim buttons (CTRL+4/CTRL+6) to control the nacelles. I'm a big fan of both default settings and using buttons on the KB. I learned PC gaming using nothing but a KB when I was learning DOOM and Castle Wolf (hows that for a blast from the past??), so KB button assignments are the most comfortable for me. It's just habitual.
Anywho, yes, you could assign the slider to control the Spoiler Axis. Just be sure to un-assign it the Throttle Axis, or you'll get some real interesting side effects. You'll have to get into the game's Controller settings, and assign it that way. Then you need to get into the Panel.cfg and enable the Spoiler Axis gauge. Look at the top of the last page of the PFD instruction manual that came in the original MV-22 package. There are complete instructions there on How-To for all this.
Does that help at all?
Pat☺
Hi Pat,
Thanks for your thoughts on the Hotas X. I can understand your 'addiction' to the KB.
I use it a lot too, but I'm more used to the joystick when flying the Osprey.As for the Slider, or Rocking Button as ThrustMaster also calls it, using the FS Options/Settings/Controls/Buttons-Keys, I cannot assign it to any function at all. That's with either 4 or 5 Axes selected with the Home button on the Hotas. It seems as if FS (P3D too?) cannot recognize it.
So I messed around and finally found that I can use the two buttons, SE and ST, on the base of the Throttle to be assigned to Aileron Trim and, what's more, they work well to move the nacelles! I've set Repeat to full so they give me a smooth change of angle.
I must say that I find the smoothness of control provided by the Hotas X to be a revelation compared to my original setup (CH yoke and Saitek rudder pedals, which latter were a d*mned nuisance sliding all over the place and getting in my way when I wasn't 'flying'.). So thank you Pat for putting me on to the Hotas! I owe you a beer or two!
Now it's just a case of getting used to the Hotas and which buttons do what... Cheers,
Mark
Most probably this Slider (is this a thumbwheel ? ) isn't a "set of buttons" but an Axis. So you can't assign it via the buttons menu.
Best way to control the nacelles is a 3-position auto-springback switch, like you find on e.g. a CH Yoke. But I don;t think the HOTAS has this.
Next best is (indeed, like you do) two seperate buttons for AileronTrim.
Allthough it's possible (with the Spoiler gauge enabled) to use a controller Axis for nacelles control, I don;t like that myself.
Reason being that the actual position of the controller axis may not reflect the actual position of the nacelles.
Example:
when you're on the ground, the nacelles are forced to min. 60 degrees rotation, so setting the controller axis to below 60 degrees nacelles rotation has no effect.
This would require a feedback option (position forcing) from the nacelles gauge to the HW controller, but no standard USB stick/yoke/Hotas has such a feature ..
Rob
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Is that the one on the front of the throttle handle? If it is, it's not actually a slider per se. It's actually a 3 position, center loaded, rocker switch (where have I heard of that before??). You should be able to assign each SIDE of it as a separate button, I think (rarely). Used for rudder trim, by default, if it's the one I'm thinking of. Which means each side can be assigned as an Aileron Trim instead, one side up and one down. Also handy for controlling nacelles, just for a wild example
I tend to agree with Rob, though. I'd rather have buttons controlling the Aileron Trim/nacelles. As he said, there are occasions when the plane will change the nacelle angle, and, if the slider chosen doesn't have a feedback device of some sort, trying to get it lined up would be problematic. Buttons are always in the right position.
I am glad you like the HOTAS X. I sure do. And as I said, the tunnel diodes will never get dirty, clogged, carbonized, all the foibles (big word of the week!) pots have. Just keep it dusted off once in a while, and you're GTG! And you never need worry about it's center drifting, like pots are prone to. Really nice.
Run it with sensitivities all the way right, and null zones full left, and enjoy flying! Just keep a light touch...
Have fun!
Pat☺
Hi Rob,
Yes, you're right, that 'Slider' is an Axis but trying to give it an assignment in FS (same in P3D?) produces a warning that it is assigned to Rudder. And as Pat says, it's really a three-position self-centering switch. I'll stick with the two buttons I have already assigned to Aileron Trim.
I understand your explanation of why not to use a controller axis for nacelle control. Another little item I hadn't even imagined.
Mark
Is that the one on the front of the throttle handle? If it is, it's not actually a slider per se. It's actually a 3 position, center loaded, rocker switch (where have I heard of that before??). You should be able to assign each SIDE of it as a separate button, I think (rarely). Used for rudder trim, by default, if it's the one I'm thinking of. Which means each side can be assigned as an Aileron Trim instead, one side up and one down. Also handy for controlling nacelles, just for a wild example
I tend to agree with Rob, though. I'd rather have buttons controlling the Aileron Trim/nacelles. As he said, there are occasions when the plane will change the nacelle angle, and, if the slider chosen doesn't have a feedback device of some sort, trying to get it lined up would be problematic. Buttons are always in the right position.
I am glad you like the HOTAS X. I sure do. And as I said, the tunnel diodes will never get dirty, clogged, carbonized, all the foibles (big word of the week!) pots have. Just keep it dusted off once in a while, and you're GTG! And you never need worry about it's center drifting, like pots are prone to. Really nice.
Run it with sensitivities all the way right, and null zones full left, and enjoy flying! Just keep a light touch...
Have fun!
Pat☺
Hi Pat,
Yes, that's the one. It seems to be assigned to 'Rudder Axis - Z-Rotation' and, if I try and change that at all, it objects. Do you use that rocker switch for anything?
So, as I've said to Rob, I'm sticking with the two buttons (SE & ST) on the base of the throttle, for nacelle control.
I've taken your advice about the sensitivities and null zones and the Osprey responds to the stick very smoothly. I'm so glad to be rid of the Saitek pedals that were so hard to use and inaccurate. I only miss the differential braking, but expect I can assign a pair of buttons on the Hotas for that.
Having fun already!
Mark
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Hey Mark
I think that was meant to be a way to use the rudder without twisting the stick during a turn. Lets you keep your hands on the stick and throttle, and control the rudder, in a more "realistic" fashion, although the rudder is a switch, rather than a pair of pedals. It's supposed to be pressed like a pedal, although it keeps moving the rudder past what you need if you hold it down. You're supposed to hold it till it's where you want it, like to center the "ball" during a turn, then tap it to hold it there. It's self centering, as well. When you let go, I think it returns the rudder to center.
I don't like it, nor do I use it for anything. I twist
I believe that if you press the button over on the far right of the stick's base, with the green LED above it, the LED will turn red, and it will permit changes like that more readily. If you want to use that rocker for the nacelles, give it a shot. If you're happy with what you have, don't bother.
The default for the Left/Right brakes (diff braking) buttons in FSX are the Num Pad * and - (multiply and subtract) keys, up on the uppermost right of the num pad (with num-lock off). I've also found you can get the same effect by twisting the stick (like turning while taxiing) and hitting the . (period button) OR the trigger on the stick. It applies brakes as though you were pressing a rudder pedal more than another. The * and - keys just apply one or the other. So, you could assign the left and right brakes to buttons on your HOTAS, or just twist and press, as you prefer. I personally twist-n-press. Just me though.
Hope all this helps a little!
Pat☺
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SCENERY
FSX-default / Airport-Design-Editor / Internet downloads
ADE Objects : http://lc0277.gratisim.fr/sceneobjects/
Airport , EDJA : http://www.edja.mcs-webdesign.com/download.htm
and
AI Traffic ( AI-Enhancer )
http://www.g-daehling.de/fs2004/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=22&noJpC
Happy landing
Ulrich-Richard
FSX-default / Airport-Design-Editor / Internet downloads
ADE Objects : http://lc0277.gratisim.fr/sceneobjects/
Airport , EDJA : http://www.edja.mcs-webdesign.com/download.htm
and
AI Traffic ( AI-Enhancer )
http://www.g-daehling.de/fs2004/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=22&noJpC
Happy landing
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I ask again, did you use all file in MV-22B package and not made any modification on it?
This aircraft was special and need special handling. the gauge screen display, VTOL gauge, sound, animation and flight behavior are connected each other, make change or modification could lead inconsistencies behavior.
On a sad note one crashed here yesterday
http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...licopter-crash-queensland-coast-search-rescue
http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...licopter-crash-queensland-coast-search-rescue
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On behalf of my fellow Marines all over the world, we thank you all for your thoughts and prayers in this time of tragedy. We all appreciate it a great deal.
Pat☺
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@"Nach dem Absturz einer US-Militärmaschine vor der Küste Australiens werden noch drei Insassen vermisst.
Ein US-Militärflugzeug mit 26 Soldaten an Bord ist am Samstag vor der Ostküste Australiens verunglückt.
23 Menschen wurden gerettet, drei Marineinfanteristen wurden zunächst noch vermisst, wie das Marine
Corps auf Twitter mitteilte. Ein Sucheinsatz wurde eingeleitet."
Unser Beileid den Angehörigen , die von ihren Lieben Abschied nehmen müssen.
Ulrich-Richard
Ein US-Militärflugzeug mit 26 Soldaten an Bord ist am Samstag vor der Ostküste Australiens verunglückt.
23 Menschen wurden gerettet, drei Marineinfanteristen wurden zunächst noch vermisst, wie das Marine
Corps auf Twitter mitteilte. Ein Sucheinsatz wurde eingeleitet."
Unser Beileid den Angehörigen , die von ihren Lieben Abschied nehmen müssen.
Ulrich-Richard
Hey Mark
I think that was meant to be a way to use the rudder without twisting the stick during a turn. Lets you keep your hands on the stick and throttle, and control the rudder, in a more "realistic" fashion, although the rudder is a switch, rather than a pair of pedals. It's supposed to be pressed like a pedal, although it keeps moving the rudder past what you need if you hold it down. You're supposed to hold it till it's where you want it, like to center the "ball" during a turn, then tap it to hold it there. It's self centering, as well. When you let go, I think it returns the rudder to center.
I don't like it, nor do I use it for anything. I twist
I believe that if you press the button over on the far right of the stick's base, with the green LED above it, the LED will turn red, and it will permit changes like that more readily. If you want to use that rocker for the nacelles, give it a shot. If you're happy with what you have, don't bother.
The default for the Left/Right brakes (diff braking) buttons in FSX are the Num Pad * and - (multiply and subtract) keys, up on the uppermost right of the num pad (with num-lock off). I've also found you can get the same effect by twisting the stick (like turning while taxiing) and hitting the . (period button) OR the trigger on the stick. It applies brakes as though you were pressing a rudder pedal more than another. The * and - keys just apply one or the other. So, you could assign the left and right brakes to buttons on your HOTAS, or just twist and press, as you prefer. I personally twist-n-press. Just me though.
Hope all this helps a little!
Pat☺
Hi Pat,
Apologies for the delay in replying - it's been a bit of a difficult week one way and another. :-(
I agree that twisting the Hotas stick for rudder seems easier if 'less prototypical'.
Thanks for the explanations about differential braking. I think 'twist-n-press' sounds simpler.
Must get back to actually flying the Osprey!
Cheers,
Mark