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NDB radio panel in pacific aircrafts question

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BEARCAT

When flying the p40B with the ADF on tuned to 619 which is what i preset as NDB in FSSC 100nm nothing happens as i approach the airbase within the 100nm and closer,what is supposed to come on to indicate the corrrect direction to follow on the compass?or am i missing something?
dog1
 
The needle of the indicator gauge is supposed to point to the base if you're dialed into the right one, just like CFS2 GPS does. Are you sure you have the right frequency for that location? I thought 619 was already taken by another location...
 
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Bearcat 241

attached is image,is the needle the compass needle on top or is it another gauge somewhere?
dog1
 
ShadowWolf, do you know what the relationship is between magdec and gyro drift if any? My military navigation experience was all terrain stuff with maps and compasses (before the days of hand-held GPS), subject to magdec of course. But gyro drift is clearly a long range aviation and maritime problem only associated with instrumentation. And it seems to have the same effect on aviation navigation in-sim and in reality as magdec.
 
Dog1,

I don't have that airplane in my list but looking at your top right ndb panel it appears to me that you are flying directly toward the station. I say that because the solid needle is usually the ndb pointer. In any case I have seen over the years the needle will point sideways to the right 90 degrees if you are not locked on. Also, if you snap the "ident" switch on the ndb tuner in that panel you should hear the morse code ident of that station after a short while. Those two items will guarantee that you are receiving the station. The double needle on that compass display is usually the autopilot bug setting.

Jimski
 
No Bearcat, I was a "real estate merchant" too. We still teach soldiers to navigate the "old way" before they give em the GPS. Vf15 has a Ve6B navigation aid for download that may account for that. Simply though, all the cfs2 planes I've flown had magnetic compases, not gyro.


Yeah Dog 1, Jimskifs is correct. Your plane is flying almost directly toward ADF/NDB beacon on freq 619. Remember, many adf beacons have a limited range 85-150 miles. You'll need to navigate till you get in range

For those files, I'll need another email address that doesn't block transfers of .exe files
 
dog1 said:
Bearcat 241

attached is image,is the needle the compass needle on top or is it another gauge somewhere?
dog1
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Hey D1, ...

That's a nice, simple lookin' nav panel, ...

...where'd ya get it?

EDIT: Why, ...BC's "B", ...of course...

Now, ...is there a list of ADF/NDB station freq's?
 
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JIMSKIFS

i tried a couple of headings to airbase and truly the white needle is pointing to base.i checked with the map while on route and it was dead on.thanks explanation
dog1
 
email

SHADOW WOLF
"For those files, I'll need another email address that doesn't block transfers of .exe files"

please use USENDIT through their web site i use it since years its free and works very well

http://www.yousendit.com/

dog1
 
Dog1

Glad it worked out. You had it solved all the time. By the way, like you I found it easy to make nbd's anywhere with fssc.

Concerning the gyro/magnetic compass issue, I don't think cfs2 has a "gyro drift" factor. As I recall the regular flight sims do but you can opt out of the drift. The magnetic compass won't point North as you turn so you won't really know when to roll out on a heading. The gyro compass will give your magnetic heading throughout the turn and you can use it for an instrument approach. But in cfs2 the two types are slaved together and should read the same when flying straight and level. In real life the gyro compass will drift away from the mag heading with time and you need to watch it and reset it. I don't know if modern aircraft have this licked, they probably do. I would think a gps based system could always give you true heading instead of magnetic and relieve you of the mag variance problem, but I think all normal flying is still done with magnetic headings. So when the controller says, "Turn to heading 090." he means magnetic and not true. (The attitude indicator also "drifts" in real life and makes instrument flying that much more fun.)

If you have an ndb near your airport it is fun to fly instrument approaches through low ceilings in cfs2. It's not just a dogfight game.

JImski
 
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SHADOW WOLF
below is image of activation,alt etc, clock at bottom left.thats all i get the clock behaves like the inboard clock,there is nothing to adjust, please comment
dog1
 
Blue Devil said:
Hey D1, ...

That's a nice, simple lookin' nav panel, ...

...where'd ya get it?

EDIT: Why, ...BC's "B", ...of course...

Now, ...is there a list of ADF/NDB station freq's?
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I have a list that includes MR Philippines, Solomons, DEI, Formosa, PNG, Micronesia as well as stock fields and my own.

It's on a text file that I've pasted onto each aircraft's Notes kneeboard and includes an aphabetical list of airfields, ADF Freqs, field coordinates, elevation and runway heading(s). All I do is set autopilot and hit C twice. The Notes page opens and I scroll down to the airfield I want and read off the data, close the window, disengage the AP and drive on. Want it?

dog1 said:
SHADOW WOLF
below is image of activation,alt etc, clock at bottom left.thats all i get the clock behaves like the inboard clock,there is nothing to adjust, please comment
dog1
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Dog1, it looks like you're halfway there. I see that the RAF662 clock is installed in that plane but not the adf. Run the program exe again and ensure the adf gauge installation wizard runs. After it runs, you will be instructed to "Locate other aircraft" then direct the program to your CFS2 Aircraft folder.

Another window will open. Select the "Locate other aircraft" button on the right and brows thru to your cfs2 aircraft folder, open it and click okay. That will mgive you a list of all the aircraft in the folder. Select all or just the ones you want. Click the "add adf gauge" button on the right, the window will reopen with "Gauge Already Fitted" next to each plane you select. Close the wizard,

Now, any plane that you did not select will show in the menu Views/Instrument Panel what your screenshot shows because you haven't loaded it in that plane as described above.
 
Shadow Wolf 07 said:
I have a list that includes MR Philippines, Solomons, DEI, Formosa, PNG, Micronesia as well as stock fields and my own.

It's on a text file that I've pasted onto each aircraft's Notes kneeboard and includes an aphabetical list of airfields, ADF Freqs, field coordinates, elevation and runway heading(s). All I do is set autopilot and hit C twice. The Notes page opens and I scroll down to the airfield I want and read off the data, close the window, disengage the AP and drive on. Want it?
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You bet SW, ...thanks.

It will be really nice to have the stock ones (that drive the CFS2GPS)

Have the MR SI-'08 ones already, ...and been workin' on a nav panel using BC's ADF gaugesw/o that damn GPS.

A DME in '43 would have been "star wars" technology.

The ADF is the closest thing to the "dit-daa" radio navigation that they did have.



Now, ...how do ya put a NDB on a Carrier?

Thanks again SW.
 
Blue Devil said:
......and been workin' on a nav panel using BC's ADF gaugesw/o that damn GPS.

A DME in '43 would have been "star wars" technology.

The ADF is the closest thing to the "dit-daa" radio navigation that they did have...
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So bite me ..its 2009 not 1943 :p:...besides, i like playing with gauges in my sim toys. And thank MS for CFS2 mod-ability. Got skills?...make it how you want it. :amen:
 
bearcat241 said:
So bite me ..its 2009 not 1943 :p:...besides, i like playing with gauges in my sim toys. And thank MS for CFS2 mod-ability. Got skills?...make it how you want it. :amen:
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Didn't notice yer tail BC...


CFS2 is also not Jane's F/A-18 either...

I too like gauges, ...and navigating from a compass, chrono, radio needles, and a chart, ...their way

To me, ...it is a big part of the beauty of the sim.

...That, ...along w/ spreadsheet aerodynamics and flight characteristics, engine mgt, exterior ballistics, carrier landings, ...and blowin' the sh*t out of stuff.

Enjoyin' the gauges BC, ...thanks.
 
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