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New LOD 7 Mesh by Rhumbaflappy!

rich12545 said:
It will be interesting to see the size of the lod 9 program. FSGlobal 2008 for fs9 is about 99% or so lod 9 and it's 13 gig.
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That FSGlobal mesh might work in CFS2... it depends on the version of resample used. My mesh has some adjustments to the ocean coasts to help minimise the need for flattens, and it includes some special files for the earth's mountainous areas that normally have voids in them... otherwise it's SRTM based.

The watermasks I'm making are much better than the defaults of CFS2, FS2002, FS2004... and in some cases FSX.

I am worried about the mesh file sizes! I'm also making an LOD8 mesh that might just have to do the job, unless the LOD9 really adds to the look without harming the framerates. The LOD8 is also trimmed to eliminate ocean flattens.

Dick
 
Richard,

Don't worry about the size, as long as they are in a size that is downloadable. By converting to one single LOD 9 package for all my sims, I'll save a lot of hard drive space in the long run, both in active use and in the library.
 
Rhumba

Don't worry about the size of the LOD9....unless it results in issues with uploading and downloading for most folks. I have a brand new 250gig HD going in as a dedicated sim drive, a 120 gig external for archiving, will be adding a 160 gig external HD for archiving once the funds free up a tad bit (come on tax returns).

I do like the idea of the LOD 8 option is case the LOD 9 proves to be a frame rate killer for some folks. The LOD 7 has done wonders for CFS2 and FS2004....I am really looking forward to giving the LOD 9 a try.

OBIO
 
bearcat241 said:
Optix, i really didn't do much of anything more than add everything according to Dick's instructions. I already had a great mesh work done by Rolf in this area for a long time:

CFS2/FS2002 Western
New Guinea Mesh v1.4
High-resolution, hand edited mesh
for West New Guinea in the
former Dutch East Indies.
LOD 9 3.75 arc second resolution.
The single bgl file covers
the entire area.
By Rolf Keibel (VF2_Rolf)

(available at Simviation)

I keep Rolf's mesh in a combined PTO/Asia mesh folder named "PAC-INDOCHINA MESH", which you will see in my scenery file. But i didn't disable this pre-existing mesh per Dick's instructions. I just put Dick's in the folder listed as "Worldwide LOD7 Mesh" and moved this folder below the Pac-Indochina folder in the ladder. This puts it as Layer 2 just above the Default Terrain Layer 1 and makes my Pac-Indochina mesh Layer 3.
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Bearcat.OK I don't get it I have the same setup as described but how come it looks totally different. It goes out of focus within a short distance.
 
Yeah Smash, i see it...but its not a scenery hierarchal problem that i see there. Its your graphics settings mucking up the sharpness of the picture. The CFS2 library setup is fine. You'll need to spend some time fine-tuning your GPU settings both inside the sim's settings and outside the in Windows desktop settings (or your graphics card's system tray tool). Also FYI, all of my posted screenies here get a single sharpening pass in a paint program before i upload. In spite of my old, tricked out GPU, i still get great clarity in my sim graphics already. But the sharpening pass makes the pics even better.
 
forgive my ignorancy

but... which is the difference between Lod5, Lod7, etc? I donwloaded both LOD5 and LOD7 mesh... Which is the meaning of all these?

Trasno
 
trasno said:
but... which is the difference between Lod5, Lod7, etc? I donwloaded both LOD5 and LOD7 mesh... Which is the meaning of all these?

Trasno
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Dick has posted some gifs that explain how looks mesh lod 7, 8 ,9 in the game
lod5 mesh already exist in the game these news replace and are better the cfs2 default

thttp://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=11250han
 
trasno said:
but... which is the difference between Lod5, Lod7, etc? I donwloaded both LOD5 and LOD7 mesh... Which is the meaning of all these?

Trasno
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Transo

The difference between the various LODs is the amount of detail that the mesh injects into the scenery. The higher the LOD, the more detailed the mesh becomes. LOD5 mountains, for instance, will be rounded looking, LOD7 and they begin to be more pointed with sharper cliffs, more defined valleys, LOD9 mountains are even more realistic in appearance with more definition and detail.

Higher LOD meshes do pose one significant disadvantage over lower LOD meshes.....the higher the LOD, the more negative impact they have on frame rates. More detail takes more RAM, more processor, more video card resources to draw.

OBIO
 
I installed and was flying around and the mesh was correcting itself as I approached a section of terrain,I went back and cranked up the scenery full blast and it looks great.It was weird,it looked like the ground was alive and breathing there for a while.:friday:
 
Smash, i just thought of something more after another look at your pics. Post a screenie of your in-sim hardware and image quality settings. Better yet, just make sure all sliders are maxed and all boxes on the right are selected.
 
rhumbaflappy said:
The watermasks I'm making are much better than the defaults of CFS2, FS2002, FS2004... and in some cases FSX.
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Dick;

Speaking of FS2002 -- I had no problems at all installing the LOD7 mesh in FS2004 and CFS2 on a newer machine, and FS2002 and CFS2 on an older machine.

However, when copying the LOD5 files to the World scenery folder, I noticed that CFS2 and FS2004 asked me if I wanted to replace the existing files (I replied yes), but go no such message when copying the same files to FS2002. I am a guessing the files had a different name in FS2002; are there some files I need to rename/move to make the LOD5 mesh the default?

My son and I flew together for several hours through the Grand Canyon using FS2002 and FSHost on machine, and FS2004 on the other. It was a pain trying this before because the mesh was different; this time, it was great, with everything exactly the same in both simulators. Only gotcha was a ridge appeared on the canyon floor in FS002 a couple of times; but may have been a mapping error due to the machine working so hard. Otherwise, it was a blast; thanks!

We also have CFS1 on both machines (I know, way too many simulators), and I assume none of this is usable with it? I noticed there is no button in the settings for adding scenery.

-James
 
Hi james.

These files won't work in CFS1... the fs mesh system hadn't been invented at that time. They should work in FS2000, CFS2, FS2002, FS2004, and FSX.

I thought FS2002 had the same naming system as the rest of the sims.

Dick
 
rhumbaflappy said:
Hi james.

These files won't work in CFS1... the fs mesh system hadn't been invented at that time. They should work in FS2000, CFS2, FS2002, FS2004, and FSX.

I thought FS2002 had the same naming system as the rest of the sims.

Dick
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Thanks, Dick. I went and looked in my World/Scenery folder in FS2002 one more time last night; and all the files had a 2009 date stamp on them. And as I mentioned, the scenery looked the same in both FS2002 and FS2004. So, it must have been confusion on my part.

Thank you for your patience, and for such a great addon. Went flying around more familiar territory closer to home last night; and was amazed that even the more gentle rolling hills in the Dallas/Fort Worth area were modeled accurately. Throw in the photo scenery, and it is "as real as it gets."

-James
 
FSX mesh in CFS2?

rhumbaflappy said:
These files won't work in CFS1... the fs mesh system hadn't been invented at that time. They should work in FS2000, CFS2, FS2002, FS2004, and FSX.
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If the new mesh works in FSX, will anything in FSX improve CFS2?
 
B17Sam said:
If the new mesh works in FSX, will anything in FSX improve CFS2?
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During the short time that I had FSX installed, the only thing that I found to be worth having was the sound pack for the Grumman Goose. I don't think that anything in FSX, other than sound packs, will work in CFS2...and if they did I would not call it an "improvement"

OBIO
 
:amen:The wife won it online for racking up points playing her silly games. Otherwise I wouldn't have it. Still don't have it installed. Regards, Al
 
Hi;
away for a week in Nevada ( in time for their recent snow!!) and want to get up to speed on the changes. So far we have the new DEM, LOD 5 and 7 and Rhumba is working on 9. Is that right?
Also, I know that he posted what to delete somewhere but can't seem to relocate it. Right now I am on a borrowed computer enroute home and want to make sure I am up-to-date on Rhumbas excellent work! THANK YOU SIR!!!:kiss::ernae:
 
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