Old project coming to life

Just an observation...

...looking at pics of real Stirlings, and now seeing that video clip of 'First pictures' (eg at 1:18) gives the impression the nose decking in front of the cockpit slopes down from the OUTER corners of the windshield. As seen on the second row of fuselages in the pic below - it looks like a steady slope from outer windscreen edge to front turret frame on the first two from the left, especially. The model looks instead to have a pronounced 'shoulder' there, level with the front centre of the windshield. As if the slope only starts from that point, at the foremost part of the windshield.



As also seen in this 3D reconstruction, featured on the facebook page for 'The Stirling Project'. The last full size cross-section fuselage frame is one further back, meaning the nose - bottom, as well as top - starts sloping in further back:

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Hi 33L,
I can't speak for NachtPiloten, but your observation/criticism, although may be valid, was done publically, which may erk some people (it does me, when people do it to me! lol).

I had a similar observation about this Stirling, but PM'd him in private with it, and NachtPiloten was very ameniable to it.

Cheers

Shessi
 
I'd be careful before insisting Ted's nose (of the Stirling...) is wrong. I'd need a thorough look from many directions at both the Stirling model and the frame & stringer photo from The Stirling Project. Aircraft noses are notorously difficult to get right and it wouldn't be the first time someone says model X is wrong when the modeller actually had manufacturing details for the original as source data. The photo posted looks to confirm the model's nose actually is pretty good with a shoulder forward of left and right extremities of the windshield.

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Still, it wouldn't be the first time someone spoke first and thought later... :redface-new:
 
For me I would have modelled it he same way as the curve from the side wraps up to just above the airframe circle, in Hairy'e circle, at which point there is a sharp change in the curve before carrying on with the curve over the nose.

It is, like all aircraft, a hard part to get right which is why a lot of research has to go into each model before committing to building. I have had a similar problem with my Lightning project with the wing shape, everyone who has created the Lightning, including Just Flight, have incorrectly modelled the wing and by chance I dropped on a priceless image showing the wing shape.

There has to be allowances when modelling an aircraft that doesn't physically exist and so the designer has to rely on photos which do not always show everything.

Just keep at it and it will all work out in the end.

Dave
 
I've seen and touched the 60 year old tooling still being used to build the C-130 cockpit framing for the windows. There is no way a modeller could ever get the framing to exactly match what it actually is in real life because it never turns out the same way twice. :banghead:
 
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