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Operation Chastise development thread

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Blood_Hawk23 said:
I found one Aqueduct model that may work. It is very poly heavy. but here is a look.

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I can't take any credit for it other then converting it. but its an option. maybe Robert or Allen could give it a poly makeover. Or atleast have a guide.
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Blood-Hawk23,

I spoke with Robert John about this this morning. I misquoted slightly, it's actually a railway viaduct that I need. The key is, it has to be destroyable, because you'll be dropping a Grand Slam on it!

And for Robert John, here are my beta dams. They have yet to be tested yet, but make sure you have this download: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=45&id=2106
 
Allen said:
I found it here.

http://www.elwood.freeserve.co.uk/scenery.htm#SECTION024

I don't think the destoyed logic would work in CFS2 and as said could use a makeover.
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From my FF install

"CFS exploding viaduct objects with crash detection.
Modified for CFS2 by Tom Sanford
Texture, damage profiles and mission (requires norwegian scenery) are included.
viaduct1 - viaduct mid section
viaduct2 - viaduct end section
by James Elwood.
[EMAIL="james@elwood.freeserve.co.uk"]james@elwood.freeserve.co.uk[/EMAIL]

http://flightsimmers.net/airbase/elwood/
http://www4.50megs.com/elwood/
for more RAF campaigns, missions, scenery and aircraft."
 
The CFS1 railway viaduct is very dated. Only the top track area is textured. I dumped it into gMax and used it as a size and shape template to make my own.

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Got it done and hope this is what you want since you didn't reply back. Comes in 3 parts. The center has the largest gap and should work as the target point. Spacer will help fill gaps. The end is off set to once side so it can be buried into the side of mountain and has no destoyed look.

You will need to set the hit points in the center and spacer for you needs. I maxed the end at 99999 in the DP so it should never be destoyed.

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Allen said:
Got it done and hope this is what you want since you didn't reply back. Comes in 3 parts. The center has the largest gap and should work as the target point. Spacer will help fill gaps. The end is off set to once side so it can be buried into the side of mountain and has no destoyed look.

You will need to set the hit points in the center and spacer for you needs. I maxed the end at 99999 in the DP so it should never be destoyed.

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Allen,

My apologies, I've had my head in Mission Builder the last 24 hours.

My response? Stupendous! Outstanding! Marvelous! :medals:

In all seriousness, a BIG thank you. :jawdrop: You guys are making this "pipe dream" a reality.
 
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Good morning,

Some good news...Achim27619 gave me a "thumbs up" on the dams after I make a minor adjustment to the Lister Dam. I will be able to turn them into GSL and upload them as a package later today.

I also tipped off a member of "Just Flight" which did the original payware version. We had a standing agreement in the past when I released Mosquito Squadron and Mustang Vs Fw-190 as freeware versions, so I want to make sure he is kept in the loop.

http://www.justflight.com/product/the-dam-busters
 
Fantastic job Allen - that was quick!

I'm assuming Rami is making missions on the destruction of the Bielefeld Viaduct and the Saumur Rail Tunnel by RAF 617 Squadron.

Bielefeld actually consisted of two viaducts built side by side at different times in history. See www.bomberhistory.co.uk/Viaduct/
 
Hi Rami,

I tested the dams and they're looking good - thanks very much. Just a few points:

I think you missed the file DamMoehne_W_TRGT which is the destructible section of the wall. This should replace the middle tower which you have in your renditions.

Would it be possible to relocate the power stations below the dam walls minus the smoke stack - they were hydro-electric.

The barrage balloons were installed after the dam buster raid.

Another nice addition if possible would be Waldeck Castle situated high on a hill overlooking the Eder Dam. It was used as a guide on the bomb run.
 

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Kevin,

I'll be happy to make the modifications. There won't be any smoke from the power station when it is GSL.
 
Robert John said:
Looks good Allen, Have the Models got LOD'S.
RJ
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Not currently. I they have a small polygon count. They are 180 norm / 174 damage for the spacer. 360 norm / 289 damage for the center and the end is 360 norm and 360 damaged as the damage model is the same as the norm.

If LODs are need it is should be easy to make something up.


Rami said:
Allen,

My apologies, I've had my head in Mission Builder the last 24 hours.

My response? Stupendous! Outstanding! Marvelous! :medals:

In all seriousness, a BIG thank you. :jawdrop: You guys are making this "pipe dream" a reality.
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Hopefully they work. If they need LODS let me know. Also what the post about a Saumur Rail Tunnel?
 
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Allen,

Here is a listing of the missions, and what they call for. (Robert John is working on this as well)

Dambusters - Practice at Chesil beach (4 December, 1942) - The first prototype was a round bomb with fell to pieces when dropped.
Dambusters - Daylight practice at Derwent (28 March, 1943) - This is covered in the dams package.
Dambusters - Evening practice at Derwent (28 March, 1943) - This is covered in the dams package.
Dambusters - Raiding the Möhne dam (16 May, 1943) - This is covered in the dams package.
Dambusters - Failures over Sorpe dam (17 May, 1943) - This is covered in the dams package.
Dambusters - Operation Bellicose raid (10 June, 1943) - They attack Freidrichshafen (Ettico did a GSL target in that area)
Dambusters - Returning via La Spezia (23 June, 1943) - They attack the Italian Naval base at La Spezia on their return.
Dambusters - Italian Power Station raid (15 July, 1943) - Easy enough to create.
Dambusters - Returning via Livorno (25 July, 1943) - I'm not sure, I'll have to look into this. (They bombed the docks there)
Dambusters - Attacking the V1 ski site (16 December, 1943) -This should be easy enough, I did a similar layout for Watten.
Dambusters - Michelin Rubber Raid (16 March, 1944) - Again, I should be able to handle this.
Dambusters - Bergerac explosives plans (18 March, 1944) - Again, I should be able to handle this.
Dambusters - Air Park and signals depot (8 April, 1944) - I can use my vehicle depot layout for this.
Dambusters - Marking Munich rail yard (24 April, 1944) - I've already completed this one.
Dambusters - Daylight Tallboy training (15 May, 1944) - Robert John is working on making a painted "bulls-eye" for the training at Ashley Walk.
Dambusters - Evening Tallboy training (15 May, 1944) - See above.
Dambusters - Saumur railway tunnel (8 June, 1944) - This will require a destroyable railway tunnell.
Dambusters - E-boat destruction at Le Havre (14 June, 1944) - This will require a destroyable E-boat pen.
Dambusters - Wizernes V2 rocket base (17 July, 1944) - This will require a concrete dome some 210 feet in diameter and 20 feet thick.
Dambusters - Impregnable U-boat pens (5 August, 1944) - I already have the U-boat pen and harbor at Brest complete.
Dambusters - Sinking the old Gueydon (13 August, 1944) - Baldy was generous enough to create this ship for me.
Dambusters - Transferring to Yagodnik (10 September, 1944) - Completed, and Yagodnik has already been built.
Dambusters - From Russia without love (15 September, 1944) - This failed to sink the Tirpitz.
Dambusters - Dortmund canal assault (23 September, 1944) - I have no idea how to do this mission, because the required canal doesn't exist in Sander's scenery.
Dambusters - Success from Scotland (15 November, 1944) - The Tirpitz is sunk.
Dambusters - U-boat sub pens at Bergen (12 January, 1945) - I already created the GSL scenery at Bergen.
Dambusters - Bielefeld railway viaduct (13 March, 1945) - This is why we need the railway viaduct.
Dambusters - Send Lutzow to the bottom! (14 April, 1945) - I'll have to build GSL facilities at Swinemunde.
Dambusters - Eliminate the Eagle's nest (24 April, 1945) - I'm not sure what materials I can use to build this, I'll look into it.
 
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Allen said:
Not currently. I they have a small polygon count. They are 180 norm / 174 damage for the spacer. 360 norm / 289 damage for the center and the end is 360 norm and 360 damaged as the damage model is the same as the norm.
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Allen,

If they could all be multi-lod, it would be a great help, because they could be used elsewhere.
 
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kdriver said:
Hi Rami,

I tested the dams and they're looking good - thanks very much. Just a few points:

I think you missed the file DamMoehne_W_TRGT which is the destructible section of the wall. This should replace the middle tower which you have in your renditions.

Would it be possible to relocate the power stations below the dam walls minus the smoke stack - they were hydro-electric.

The barrage balloons were installed after the dam buster raid.

Another nice addition if possible would be Waldeck Castle situated high on a hill overlooking the Eder Dam. It was used as a guide on the bomb run.
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Kevin,

I would, but I did some experimenting, and the only buildings big enough to be "castle-like" are the large city and church blocks by wolfi, and they don't look right. I tried for a couple of hours this afternoon, and really didn't like the results, so I junked it. It would be great to have something like a "castle pack" to have the large-scale buildings to build something like that, Mont Saint-Michael, or the Monte Casino Abbey, for example.
 
I know the Wizernes V2 rocket baseis more than just a dome. I can't find a darn usefull thing about the Saumur tunnel.
 
For the Eagle nest, Is the mountain already there or will one have to be added. And its the eagle nest not wolf lair correct.
 
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