Pacific Rim 50's Jet Race Rules

I'm not sure what the rules will make of this one. I've had a strange system crash twice in exactly the same place - on the glide slope, about 3 or 4 miles back from runway 05 at PAED.

Strange! I've seen these spatial anomalies in FS9 before but not virtually at the threshold of a runway.

I'm not sure what the solution is, but I'm getting tired of flying this leg from UHPP - PAED!

http://fs-duenna.com/flights/ShowFlight.php?flight=yFxwwEMDJMnlBjDdpQtSzux827M
http://fs-duenna.com/flights/ShowFlight.php?flight=h50F8q4F8ablaxhikjjIDz5qbRc

Mike
 
That is odd Mike. No reason to refly such a long leg a third time. Use the first flight's Duenna (04:02:52 flight time) and continue on from Anchorage. No penalty here.

For the committee-
Moses
 
Mike I would suspect that you were suffering OOM errors.

This is every easy to do on a long leg like that.

The other possibility is you have a scenery conflict that does not like the area. My self I had to disable my add on mesh just to get out of Darwin. I would get a CTD about 200 nm out on my test flights every time.
 
Dangerousdave26 said:
Mike I would suspect that you were suffering OOM errors.

This is every easy to do on a long leg like that.

The other possibility is you have a scenery conflict that does not like the area. My self I had to disable my add on mesh just to get out of Darwin. I would get a CTD about 200 nm out on my test flights every time.
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Every flight I did in and out of PAED (about 8 or ten) encountered a scenery boundary right about that point (even pointed it out to DD and a couple of others online) - same as you get on most ocean crossings at the time-zone transition (brief pause followed by scenery loading). Encountered during takeoff after a reboot so it's not a long-haul issue. I never tried to pinpoint it but it looks like where the approaches for PANC & PAED intersect.

Mine never crashed the system but sure woke me up on the approach
 
well, isn't that special!
I got exactly the same thing yesterday.

just to let you know,
sometimes I do a high sim rate test flight
to double check the route and such.

anyway, as I was about 5nm out of PAED,
my sim crashed. no clue why.
I had other things to do, so forgot about it
and pressed on with my RJTY to PAED flight today.

I am currently in transit
and my headset just started rumbling.
scared the crap out of me!
apparently, I just started passing over a thunderstorm.

be that as it may, I am glad to hear about this SNAFU
before I encounter it again.
would there be any objection if I changed
my destination to PANC,
just so I can finish the flight without a computer glitch?
 
Ya's peaked my curiousity, did a test filght into PAED (rwy 5 ILS) from UHPP- no crash, not even a hiccup. Am running stock scenery for that area.
 
MaddogK said:
Ya's peaked my curiousity, did a test filght into PAED (rwy 5 ILS) from UHPP- no crash, not even a hiccup. Am running stock scenery for that area.
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I guess that just makes it all the more interesting.
since I am getting very close
and I haven't heard anything regarding
my request for a change to PANC,
I am just going top go to PANC, anyway.
then do a ultra short hop to PAED.
I just don't want to risk it.
 
Trying to get info for smilo, but alas too late it appears...

1. clean start of FS9
2. Departed PAED Rwy 05 with left turn out climb to 2900 (red line PAED-1)
3. at the point shown had one of those "Loading terrain..Loading traffic" events and continued.
4. shot ILS05 at PAED with nothing further. Missed approach 05 right turn direct PAMR then hdg 235* (nothing...) _Blue line shot PAED-2
5. vectored north of ILS and then back to approach
normal approach ILS05 (blue line) until SHORT final then... "loading terrain..loading traffic"
6. commenced missed appr. with climb and then left turn hdg 235
7. at point shown (PAED-3) BANG - another one
8. inbound ILS Rwy 05 -ALL NORMAL UNTIL.. YEP.. YOU GOT IT.. SHORT FINAL
9. Another scenery reset - landed safely

Only addon scenery is FSGenesis mesh (world) and no airports etc. in AK

screenshots posted out of order but labeled

Rob
 
srgalahad said:
Trying to get info for smilo, but alas too late it appears...

1. clean start of FS9
2. Departed PAED Rwy 05 with left turn out climb to 2900 (red line PAED-1)
3. at the point shown had one of those "Loading terrain..Loading traffic" events and continued.
4. shot ILS05 at PAED with nothing further. Missed approach 05 right turn direct PAMR then hdg 235* (nothing...) _Blue line shot PAED-2
5. vectored north of ILS and then back to approach
normal approach ILS05 (blue line) until SHORT final then... "loading terrain..loading traffic"
6. commenced missed appr. with climb and then left turn hdg 235
7. at point shown (PAED-3) BANG - another one
8. inbound ILS Rwy 05 -ALL NORMAL UNTIL.. YEP.. YOU GOT IT.. SHORT FINAL
9. Another scenery reset - landed safely

Only addon scenery is FSGenesis mesh (world) and no airports etc. in AK

screenshots posted out of order but labeled

Rob
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same here, plus Silver Wings and HDEv2 Clouds.
love them clouds!
 
Is your AI on too? Me and Dave just did a test flight from 5AK0 (65mi SW) to PAED and other than the usual stutters in a complex area with large airports, no probs. no loads.
I'll assume at the end of 3hr flight tonight it will CTD! :running:
 
Per SrG's test- am unable to reproduce, NO loading of any kind at/near marked point. My AI is ON, tested with weather 'live' (15 minute d/s') and 'user defined'. I DO NOT have either of those secenery addons mentioned.
 
just tried it again.
this time, I took off from RJTY,
climbed to 15,000, set course to 024
then slewed to N 057 W 160
then, I flew her in using my flight plan route.
AKN, ENA, ANC, then turning 057 to final PAED.
hit the AP APP button and all was good.
about 5 miles out,
MS has encountered a problem...blah, blah, blah.

this time, I saved flight
at about 50 miles out,
so I will go back and try it again.
if it does it,
I will deactivate NorthAmerican 1 & 2 mesh
and see what happens.

part of me just wants to let it go,
part wants to figure out the cause.
 
disabled NorthAmerica1
restarted FS9
proceeded from saved flight 10 miles out

no joy

how close can one get?
 
Rules Adjustment

With the idea that we're here to have fun, we're going to "adjust" the rules.

If you get to a short finals to PAED and then experience a system crash, please score that as a completed flight and take the Duenna time and fuel consumption as shown. Then recommence your next flight from PAED (if that works) or PANC (if necessary).

Sorry we're having a problem here. Hope this work-around keeps the emphasis on our having fun with the event.

Mike (for the Committee)
 
MM said:
Rules Adjustment

With the idea that we're here to have fun, we're going to "adjust" the rules.

If you get to a short finals to PAED and then experience a system crash, please score that as a completed flight and take the Duenna time and fuel consumption as shown. Then recommence your next flight from PAED (if that works) or PANC (if necessary).

Sorry we're having a problem here. Hope this work-around keeps the emphasis on our having fun with the event.

Mike (for the Committee)
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many thanks Mike,
the problem is, I'm the kind of person that wants to know the cause.
it's kinda fun to investigate.
I have deactivated All of my FSGenesis,
then re-flown using my saved flight.
each time I get the system crash at the same location.
I even tried changing aircraft.
same story.
so, just for the heck of it,
I took off from PANC in my F7F-3,
then came around, on auto pilot,
and accomplished a perfect (for me) AP APP landing.
I don't know why, but it would seem this issue only happens after a long flight.
how long, I don't know...ie, would it happen if one started from, say PADK?
I know it hasn't happened when I've flown from KCLM to PANC.
the question now is, am I up for a test flight from Adak?
not now, maybe later, after I finish the Race.
I don't know the technical ins and outs of FS9,
but at this point, I am satisfied with what I have found.
besides, I still have a ton of screenies to edit.

PS, as I stated in my "flight" thread,
Duenna was lost in the crash.
I did get a screen shot, though.
 
How about a Victor.....

Hey all,

Just wondereing if a HP Victor would be elegible for this race, while it was in service in time (even the B.2 version was at least being evaluated before 1960) I'm not sure about the supersonic bit. While it was technically a sub-sonic aircraft there are rumours and stories that one did inadvertantly go supersonic briefly while being tested.

While I'm considering a late entry I hope it wouldn't be too serious, jest getting back into fs after some computer troubles which unfortunately kept me out of RTWR.

Cheers,
M
 
Firebar said:
Hey all,

Just wondereing if a HP Victor would be elegible for this race, while it was in service in time (even the B.2 version was at least being evaluated before 1960) I'm not sure about the supersonic bit. While it was technically a sub-sonic aircraft there are rumours and stories that one did inadvertantly go supersonic briefly while being tested.

While I'm considering a late entry I hope it wouldn't be too serious, jest getting back into fs after some computer troubles which unfortunately kept me out of RTWR.

Cheers,
M
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As long as the plane cannot sustain mach 1.0 in level flight, it is legal, with regard to speed. If the aircraft.cfg lists the max mach as less then 1.0, then you're fine, because the plane will over speed at the listed max mach anyway. If the max mach is 1.0 or above, then you will have to test the plane up high to see if it can actually achieve mach 1.0 in level flight. If not, it's legal.
 
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