Piper Aztec Steams ahead

[henrystreet]

Personally, I'd be happy if I could get all my FSX content through Steam. A full reinstall of all my FTX products takes literally a couple of days to figure out what's been updated, download new installers, unwrap and install them one by one... Just the thought of how easy that would be in Steam...



Sorry, started daydreaming there. I'm sure I had another point to add to the conversation, but I'll leave it at that, since now I'm kinda depressed!

no kidding this would be wonderful!!

 

[GypsyBaron]

Sorry to Hijack the thread

I want the Aztec

So if I install FSX steam on my computer ( different hard drive) will that ruin my normal FSX installation as it will overwrite FSX config and such things?

Thanks for an answer

Roland

I installed FSX:SE on my system, although it is worthless to me because of the lack of Multiplayer Direct Connect, and I simply
created another user account to install FSX:SE into. That kept it completely isolated from my FSX installation.

This is particularly important for those that have A2A Accu-Sim aircraft and do not want the FSX:SE and FSX aircraft
state and maintenance data to be 'shared' between the two sims, which WILL happen if they are installed in the
same user account.

Paul

 

[henrystreet]

I installed FSX:SE on my system, although it is worthless to me because of the lack of Multiplayer Direct Connect...

Paul

Paul, from what I've heard, the direct connect is still available but only to a dedicated FSX-SE server. I see the options in the multiplayer section for direct connect.

 

[GypsyBaron]

Paul, from what I've heard, the direct connect is still available but only to a dedicated FSX-SE server. I see the options in the multiplayer section for direct connect.

Henry, the last time I checked the "Direct Connect" option was there but it did not function at all.

I fly exclusively online on the DigitalThemePark servers with the 91st Bombardment Group and the DTP servers only allow the FSX box version to connect. It seems that DTG changed the multiplayer communications in some way that makes the FSX:SE version incompatible with the boxed version. The two sims can not exist in the same virtual world it seems.

Paul

 

[henrystreet]

Henry, the last time I checked the "Direct Connect" option was there but it did not function at all.

I fly exclusively online on the DigitalThemePark servers with the 91st Bombardment Group and the DTP servers only allow the FSX box version to connect. It seems that DTG changed the multiplayer communications in some way that makes the FSX:SE version incompatible with the boxed version. The two sims can not exist in the same virtual world it seems.

Paul

Good to know. I have flown online with FSX-SE a couple of times and it was thru a published server.

 

[Cirrus N210MS]

I wont be re installing FSX SE or FSX I use P3d V3 its way more stable i was looking forward to this aircraft I wont be Buying any More airplane heaven Planes Only Will be geting Carenado and Alabeo There planes work better anyways i liked the Planes i got from AH Though For what they did they lost Me on any Other addons

 

[JimmyRFR]

Wow. Some very polarized opinions on this page.

Support for one platform over another on a single release from a quality developer hardly qualifies for such vilification. Especially when that developer has a reputation for producing easy to use, unique aircraft and selling them for very reasonable amounts. And, unlike certain other developers, actually interacts with the community.

Give them room folks.

 

[jandmbear]

it would be the same - except if you buy a Steam version of your house or car, you can go anywhere in the world (that has an internet signal) and have your house or car there in seconds - without any additional cost..and if you lose your house or car (or your physical FSX discs) you can just download the Steam version over and over and over - with no added cost.

Haha!!! Yes, I see myself in the future moving my entire simulator rig to multiple different locations that have wifi. NO

 

[jandmbear]

Wow. Some very polarized opinions on this page.

Support for one platform over another on a single release from a quality developer hardly qualifies for such vilification. Especially when that developer has a reputation for producing easy to use, unique aircraft and selling them for very reasonable amounts. And, unlike certain other developers, actually interacts with the community.

Give them room folks.

That's how the consumer marketplace works. If a company with dedicated customers makes a big change, they should expect many comments and opinions from their dedicated customers, who have every right to voice their concerns since they've spent money with said company, most of us on multiple occasions. If they can't take the opinions and criticism then that kind of thin skin shouldn't be in the business..

 

[donnybalonny]

Maybe conclusion could be that we have to many different Flightsims at one time. Just like other spoiled kids we want everything to work everywhere all the time. And let it be dead cheap or free.
Life was easyer in the "good old days"

 

[ksheadley]

I have three of AH's current offerings and enjoy all of them. It is disappointing that the "Steam Only" delivery has been placed on the Aztec as I was looking forward to the plane. I understand business decisions have to be made, but this just seems to be more of a "mafia" style approach from DTG rather than AH....."You only sell here and we get more FSX customers and you get a bigger cut" or................Yes I agree that Steam will be the future of FSX but to put pressure on LM by these methods (oh wait P3D models aren't backwards compatible) just seems to be too much tit for tat. It's their decision as a retailer and mine as a customer......SMH disappointing

 

[JimmyRFR]

That's how the consumer marketplace works. If a company with dedicated customers makes a big change, they should expect many comments and opinions from their dedicated customers, who have every right to voice their concerns since they've spent money with said company, most of us on multiple occasions. If they can't take the opinions and criticism then that kind of thin skin shouldn't be in the business..

Except.... we're not talking about purely rational criticism. And as for opinions, as the say goes - opinions are like...

In addition, we're also talking about a developer that continually engages with the community. Want them to stop doing that? Want to create a hostile, toxic environment that they no longer want to be part of? Being a customer does not, in my opinion, give anyone the right to act with a lack of basic decency and respect.

Some of the concerns raised in this thread are expressions of valid thought and respectful opinions. Others, not so much...

 

[Javis]

I'm just worried about Dovetail ruffling up the feathers of the Dove's tail too. You know what i'm saying ?...

 

[Ferry_vO]

I'm just worried about Dovetail ruffling up the feathers of the Dove's tail too. You know what i'm saying ?...

The Dove will be released by just Flight, Jan.

 

[Javis]

AH! ummmm.... JF! Atta, boy! Thanks!

(because of all the turbulence here must've forgotten about that... been waiting too long for my precious Dove to see it being lured into another dovecote... )

 

[bazzar]

I'd like to make something clearer here as it appears some people do not understand what exactly is happening. The Aztec, for now, is the ONLY add-on we make that is exclusively Steam delivered.

If we had not announced an Aztec or had withdrawn it for other reasons nothing would be any different to how it was (and is still).

I am not sure why that one decision merits a withdrawal of patronage but if that is how you feel you are perfectly free to act as you will.

There is nothing sinister in any of this and it certainly has nothing to do with criticism. Anybody who doesn't know our handling of criticism doesn't know us very well at all.Rightnw we could not be happier with the way things are travelling for us and are looking forward to the New Year.

We have at least two more releases due before Christmas and more coming in the New Year. And yes, the Dove will continue to be released by Just Flight, along with anything else we may do for them, in the usual manner.

Hope that clarifies things.

 

[mmann]

I am not sure why that one decision merits a withdrawal of patronage but if that is how you feel you are perfectly free to act as you will.

Maybe someone without FSX:SE was actually planning to buy this? Maybe they don't understand your business decision on this one and are reacting by simply voting with their wallets.

 

[bazzar]

I guess we'll see.

 

[pilto von pilto]

Maybe someone without FSX:SE was actually planning to buy this? Maybe they don't understand your business decision on this one and are reacting by simply voting with their wallets.

I understand the lack of FSX:SE prohibiting a person from buying a SE exclusive. What is odd, to me at least, is the decision to never buy another product from a producer based on one products availability or otherwise. Which is what Cirrus N210MS is saying. That's a bit like saying " Since you made the P-26 for x-plane and I dont have x-plane I'm never going to buy any of your products ( future or otherwise ) that are for the sim I do own".

That doesnt make sense to me.

And thick skin is a requirement for both developers and customers. We have thick skins. Have to, some of us live in Australia where either the sun is trying to kill you with melanoma or the insects/ snakes/ random koala bears are.

 

[TuFun]

I understand the lack of FSX:SE prohibiting a person from buying a SE exclusive. What is odd, to me at least, is the decision to never buy another product from a producer based on one products availability or otherwise. Which is what Cirrus N210MS is saying. That's a bit like saying " Since you made the P-26 for x-plane and I dont have x-plane I'm never going to buy any of your products ( future or otherwise ) that are for the sim I do own".

That doesnt make sense to me.

And thick skin is a requirement for both developers and customers. We have thick skins. Have to, some of us live in Australia where either the sun is trying to kill you with melanoma or the insects/ snakes/ random koala bears are.

This... you nail it right on the head!

And who makes planes like this at a price point that is very reasonable!!!