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Political, For USA members only, Made In China

One of the biggest and main reasons things are outsourced is because the manufacture of a product are taxed to death. Most of us are led to believe because of the wages in third worlds are cheaper. Some of that is true but most retailers will tell you it is the taxes they are charges. Here is a good example. Amazon moved one of there largest distribution centers to Virginia this year and plan on opening up two more here. They were given huge tax breaks to get them to come here. Once they built the plant, hired the employees, started the shipping, Va sent them a letter stating that they want all products that are shipped to and from Virginia to be taxed and the money given to Virginia. Even third party products they want that taxed too. That is the thanks Amazon got for hiring over one thousand Virginia workers. Get the picture now.
 
This reminds me of something my dad told me. Back in the mid 1970's, he was working as a machinist at a well known US company. The iron and steel pieces he was getting, where made in Japan. Reason, because it was cheaper to send the iron ore from the US, all the way to Japan, to have it made into steel and cast iron, and back to the US for machining, then it was to smelt it here! I thought that was incredible.

Its all about money.
 
I blew the ater pump in my 57 chevy truck...had a coice--rebuilt or new..i opted for the new one...guess what? Made in China...on a purely American truck...I agree woith Ickie..the whole thing is BS..yeh, we've all gotten used to all this global marketing and all that, but, in light of the fact that so many people are'nt working, why can't there be a little factory re-building water pyums? Or making uniforms ? or whatever...because the regs are so stringent for anyone doing business in the US and the EPA climbs all over anyone who has a dirty toilet...where does it end? I see the Olympic uniforms as an insult.
 
This is a timely thread....the other day I had to open a new package of Oral-B dental floss. I turned it over and it had "Made in Ireland" stamped on the bottom.
 
I am shocked at the who gives a $hit opinions, ...:mix-smi:...... Where is ken Stallings when I need him, lol
 
Organized labor is missing the boat. Whoever said we can't compete with labor that basically works for the food they eat that day hit the (Chinese) nail right on the head. Organized labor needs to head overseas and start organizing there, not here. Boosting the pay/benefits of all overseas labor will end the sweat shop conditions, and put the U.S. State Dept in a bind - what are they going to do, oppose the unions' efforts to make things better in these deplorable working conditions? They'd have to get on the bandwagon too. Better working conditions = better pay = happier people. This may save some American lives in the future, as well.

Right now overseas labor is basically at where our labor was in this country in the 1870s and 1880s. Organization improved things then, regardless of what may have happened later. The same thing will work over there.
 
i like the blue jean ,white tee and ball cap idea,,,maybe those items arent made here anymore either,but they "LOOK" american,,these new uniforms looks 1920s british indian goin to high tea clothes to me,expect to see a 1919 rolls royce landou pacing the field..the real issue is..are textiles even produced in the US anymore?....

fast storyback in the 1980s,there was ( still is) a group called "friends of placer county" they are made p of what i call "outsiders",people who have moved to placer county in the last 10 years or less,most of whom have moved into a new housing develeopement ,and then decided,,enhough was enough..no more building/or manufacturing in "thier" backyard,not paying any attention to those of us who are native to the area,,ive litterally never lived most than 2 miles from the hospital i was born in and im PROUD of that fact,,what happened was,at the auburn airport there was a electronics company who was well known in the military world,they built circuit board for military applications,,,this group decided two things,,one,,the military end of it was unsafe for the local "passiveness" and two,the chemicals used were harming the enviroment ( wasnt true,and the company proved it,the group counldnt prove theyre points at all),,,BUTU they had the political pundits on theyre side for votes,,,,5 large companies ended up in nieghboring Nevada state,including a small plastic pellet manufacturing company that was locally owned and run who gave 100s of locals jobs...is now in another state,,is global and employees 100s of thousands....at the same time,near my home,an bull dozer was unloading ( happened to be a friend,Don Dobbas ,he now runs a very successfull heavy equipment firm retreaving train wrecks...based "outside of placer county" making sure place gets NO tax dollars from his company...but this man used his car to block don,and his friend showed up and blocked him from leaving too,,,his truck,dozer ect were stuck,,theyre were "do gooders" walking with signs stating save the oak trees (btw they were "scrub oak,which is only good for fire wood)and they were chanting like old 60s hippies,,,,finally,channel 3 (kcra) asked don what it was all about,,,he shrugged his shoulders,,,said....dunno,they seem to be upset about these old scrubs,but the city of auburn contracted me to cut fireline under and around the bush,,,wasnt gonna touch the trees.....and he walked away,,so i said to the kcra man...have a look at the house up the hill,,,he pointed his camera at a HUGE pile of cut and split oak firewood,and then we went up and looked in the house,and it was all trimed in light oak trim and a oak floor,,,,,,the home owner was the man who started the protest....he had his house and his firewood and that was enough..he later claimed in court he had no idea the firewoodman dropped off oak firewood.

my point to this...why dont we find out WHY ralph lauren had to go to china for manufacture?..was it really cheaper?..or was it the fact that american do gooders ran the textile/garment companies out??
 
Milton Shupe said:
http://economy.money.cnn.com/2012/07/13/does-congress-buy-made-in-america-clothes/?iid=HP_LN
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Thanks for the link to that article. For a refreshing change, the comments were actually more interesting than the article. One of the most cogent points raised was the question of where textiles come from these days...

So, Senator So-and-So buys Brooks Brothers suits. Whoop-te-doo! Where does the fabric come from? Just because (presumably) an "American" tailor sewed the suit doesn't make it "Made in America." At most one could claim that it was "Assembled in America..."

As for the design of the uniform itself, it looks like what may well be the proper attire for the Democratic People's Republic of America...

...which we are all too rapidly becoming! :isadizzy:
 
My Japanese brand pickup has more made in the US content than the GM pickup I traded in on it. And it's a heck of a lot better truck too! (Nissan assembled in Mississippi with US made parts)
 
It went over mine - just figured he was being funny. Reminds me of the great Swiss Spaghetti Harvest.
 
i used to work for 2 of the few companies who do filtration for cotton and wood pulp mills. what i saw during that time (1990 to 1998) was that the industry even then ws in heavy decline.

1) ALL the equipment is made in germany, and is installed by germans here.
2) it was common practice for people to show up for work and find themselves out of a job. that included me and anyone else on the construction crews doing maintenance or new work. if the price of cotton falls to a certain point it became more profitable to sell off the raw stock and shut down.
it can really suck being 700 miles from home, and suddenly out of a job.
3) many workers who showed early signs of byssinosis were railroaded out of their jobs to avoid disability settlements.
4) the pay sucked, unless you were a millwright, or a manager
5) the only day a cotton mill doesn't run is christmas day. many people work swing shifts, unless you has some kinda pull, everyone was about as likely to be scheduled at least one weekend day every few weeks.
6) it's noisy and it often smells bad
alotta folks see that and decide they'd rather have welfare babies.
 
Well, I'm not an US citizen but something really struck my eye regarding China lately.
We fly to Australia in about three weeks and have a stop over in Shanghai, where we had to apply for three visa to visit the city. With much consternation I noticed that they really seem to pick on US citizens there. A visum for a US citizen is 130 dollar, the rest of the world has to pay 30 dollar (except for Romanians, who pay 75$). They also load quite some special regulations on US citizens. That reminds my of some really dumb and seemingly childish border problems we've had in Europe during the cold war.
But I had to grin over some other general regs: you are not allowed to enter China if you have a mental disorder or some sort of disease. If they knew that I'm more than slightly gaga and have the flightsim disease, which is known to be highly infectious, the'd probably lock me in a stainless steel cage at the airport in one of those funny suits where the arms are bound together on the back.

Cheers,
Mark
 
TeaSea said:
Previous post made the point that the "made in" tags really don't mean much. That's pretty much true.....

We are not really interested in where things are made anymore, but who's making the bucks. Fact is, the U.S. benefits from trade with China. American workers benefit from trade with China. There are things that can only be made in the U.S., and we still make them. There are technologies that can only be executed in the U.S. and some other Western Nations, and we still do that.

Clothes can be made anywhere -- cheap.

Now, I do agree that these are the UGLIEST uniforms we've put forward of late....clearly designed by a metro-sexual. Jeans are the universal uniform and the U.S.'s number one contribution to fashion....go with it.
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Unfortunately the ORIGINAL blue cotton fabric for jeans was invented and made in France and exported to the US. :cool: Denim or De Nimes (of Nimes). I'll get me coat. :running:

Edit: Welcome to the rest of the Third World US. We Brits will make room for you. :)
 
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