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Possible SB2C to be developed.......
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raptor19
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The SB2C would be another very nice addition for FSX especially as no one else seems to have picked up on it yet. It would most definitely fill another warbird slot and I amongst many would be very interested in adding it to the collection.
Quicksand
SOH-CM-2023
I'm glad to see this thread grow in my absence, for which I apologize.. I've been on the road since Sunday with no internet until now. I have not spoken with the developer since then, but I am hoping they're watching this thread too. Thanks for the excellent links, Jan and Piglet, and all the positive input, guys. Let's see if we've generated the interest necessary to see this project take off....
:mixedsmi::salute:
PS: Helldiver, I couldn't ever attempt a project like this. I am only attempting to drum up the support and drive to persuade the afore-mentioned developer:mixedsmi: to take on this task. I appreciate them for even considering it. You, my friend, are the one we should all be thanking..
:salute::USA-flag:
:mixedsmi::salute:PS: Helldiver, I couldn't ever attempt a project like this. I am only attempting to drum up the support and drive to persuade the afore-mentioned developer:mixedsmi: to take on this task. I appreciate them for even considering it. You, my friend, are the one we should all be thanking..
:salute::USA-flag:Me too. As a rule, I stick with the civilian stuff in FSX, but a good model of one of the less glamorous warhorses is always very welcome. I wish developers would do more of them.
Prowler1111
Charter Member 2011
Still working on it
Prowler
I know that your working on it Prowler. But I'll be 83 in a couple of months. My eyes are not improving. Besides Macular Degeneration I have cataracts in both eyes and am going to be operated on next month.
So if you could speed things up on the plane I would appreciate it before they plant me.
Although I don’t want to be a part of a bunch guys that say the SBD sank more Japanese shipping, or that the SB2C was poor handling aircraft. It was a piece of military hardware and nobody thought it flew like a J-3 Cub. The planes nowadays can't sustain flight without a computer. I never saw a tail fall off of any SB2C and I watched, and been part of, a lot of landings.
Plus any one that insists on calling it a "*** 2<SUP>nd</SUP> Class is merely repeating what some boob of a writer came up with and was never used by any Navy crewman. Furthermore, I never said that I was a pilot. I was only the guy in back that kept the pilot awake.
As far as the CAF Helldiver, it’s a shame at how bad they’ve let it go. I can tell that the oleo strut on the tail wheel is deflated. The life preserver is gone as is the SCR 522 radios and linear amplifier. The panel is a mess. It’s been hacked over so many times you’d hardly recognize it as being on a SB2C. I don’t know how the FAA let the thing fly.
All I had for detailed drawings, I sent to Prowler1111.
So if you could speed things up on the plane I would appreciate it before they plant me.
Although I don’t want to be a part of a bunch guys that say the SBD sank more Japanese shipping, or that the SB2C was poor handling aircraft. It was a piece of military hardware and nobody thought it flew like a J-3 Cub. The planes nowadays can't sustain flight without a computer. I never saw a tail fall off of any SB2C and I watched, and been part of, a lot of landings.
Plus any one that insists on calling it a "*** 2<SUP>nd</SUP> Class is merely repeating what some boob of a writer came up with and was never used by any Navy crewman. Furthermore, I never said that I was a pilot. I was only the guy in back that kept the pilot awake.
As far as the CAF Helldiver, it’s a shame at how bad they’ve let it go. I can tell that the oleo strut on the tail wheel is deflated. The life preserver is gone as is the SCR 522 radios and linear amplifier. The panel is a mess. It’s been hacked over so many times you’d hardly recognize it as being on a SB2C. I don’t know how the FAA let the thing fly.
All I had for detailed drawings, I sent to Prowler1111.
PutPut
Charter Member 2014
& i wonder where the Ju87 would fit in that statement????
The Germans sank ships with submarines. The Stuka was used primarily against ground forces. Early in WW2 the German subs were sinking ships faster than Henry Kaiser could build them.
Best, Paul
W. Bleddyn
Charter Member
That's not strictly true. It was used as ground attack almost exclusively later in the war but early on it did alot of anti-shipping.
A couple exerpts from John Ward's Hitler's Stuka Squadrons: The Ju 87 at war, 1936–1945:
I doubt however that it would have come near the tonnage totals of the US carrier-based dive bombers which were used primarily for anti-shipping.
A couple exerpts from John Ward's Hitler's Stuka Squadrons: The Ju 87 at war, 1936–1945:
I doubt however that it would have come near the tonnage totals of the US carrier-based dive bombers which were used primarily for anti-shipping.
Pips
Charter Member
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icarus
Guest
I know could not be interesting but after the success of the grumman duck we have started few usa projects including the Helldiver all versions. hope to release before summer.
Icarus,
Great to hear the news about the Helldiver. Looking forward to all versions, espcially the early ones.
FlameOut
SOH-CM-2025
@ Helldiver:
Is this the one you are referring to?
This little baby made a stop in my state while en route to the air show over at Meridian NAS for this weekend. A local news crew did a short blurb about it.
[ the link is prolly only good until the next new story comes along ]
http://www.wkrg.com/alabama/article/reunion-or-man-and-machine/1205763/Mar-26-2011_10-16-pm/
There is a little "jab" in there by the young pilot to place 2nd. class status on the "back seater's". Well, that's how I sorta took it.
Today, and today only is a link over at "Plane-A-Day" for the SB2C Helldiver:
http://www.planeaday.com/
She sure looks purdy don't she! :USA-flag:
Is this the one you are referring to?
This little baby made a stop in my state while en route to the air show over at Meridian NAS for this weekend. A local news crew did a short blurb about it.
[ the link is prolly only good until the next new story comes along ]
http://www.wkrg.com/alabama/article/reunion-or-man-and-machine/1205763/Mar-26-2011_10-16-pm/
There is a little "jab" in there by the young pilot to place 2nd. class status on the "back seater's". Well, that's how I sorta took it.
Today, and today only is a link over at "Plane-A-Day" for the SB2C Helldiver:
http://www.planeaday.com/
She sure looks purdy don't she! :USA-flag:
Ummm...no she doesn't. The Helldiver is an interesting aircraft to look at, but pretty / "purdy" she most certainly is not. Still, a significant addition to the FSX-native warbird range.
At the risk of being redundant since I mentioned his before. The main canopy is opened, Then you take your guns, pull them out beneath the rear canopy and sling the to the ports side of the aircaft, Then you would go to a wobble pump on the starboard side of the gunners station, turn the valve to Close Canopy and start pumping. It only took about 10 pumps and everything from you to the tail would fold up using four hinges. Then you would release the gunners ring, which was cleverly counter-balanced by bungee cords. It would put you up higher by 10 inches. You then are able to move your guns on the ring.
Then you'd hear how much buffeting you were given the pilot. The pilot didn't like it and you sure were not happy with the bitter cold whipping around your head. So he would very quickly tell you stow your guns. You basically would reverse the process. As far as the guns were concerned, you had very limited field of fire.. You could fire at both sides and vertical but because of the tail ,the wing and the forward fuselage. Your ability to put out any meaningful fire power you were hampered by them.
Then you'd hear how much buffeting you were given the pilot. The pilot didn't like it and you sure were not happy with the bitter cold whipping around your head. So he would very quickly tell you stow your guns. You basically would reverse the process. As far as the guns were concerned, you had very limited field of fire.. You could fire at both sides and vertical but because of the tail ,the wing and the forward fuselage. Your ability to put out any meaningful fire power you were hampered by them.