Sabre Shots

I think the instruments are superb as they are. The skin looks spot on to me .I am so glad we have Milviz . I am going to get this to make sure these guys keep pumping this kind of quality out . Thanks guys , this is going to great
 
MenendezDiego said:
You should be thanking Bone; he started this thread.

Glad you enjoyed it. I had nothing to do with the work, but I'll pass the message to the team.

Regards, Diego
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Diego

Already thanked Bone for his work, but you also get a big thank you for just being associated with Milviz. This gives many of us something to look forward to and check for every day.
 
Always a thousand small glitches in the best of projects, especially for the complex ones. Sometimes you wonder if it takes more man hurs to produce a virtual one than one of the real ones!

Cheers: T
 
I once drew the font used by NAA for tail numbers and buzz numbers. Great looking aircraft ! Gets better each time I see new shots of it.


Best
DagR
 
Oh dear, someone re-upholstered the armrests. I'll just have to fly this one a LOT and wear them down myself. :173go1:

I like the used look in the VC, looks like it already flew a full tour in Korea. I just wish I could build stuff as good as that myself! :isadizzy:
 
We will be making the canopy look more like it is actually there. That is one of my critiques of it as well after seeing it myself in the sim. Keep in mind this is Alpha1.0 of this bird. So there is still a good amount of work to do before it hits the market. We have backed off recently from showing very early builds of projects, but Bone definately took some nice screens. I look forward to showing more of this aircraft off in the future. We are still trying to finalize features so at a future date we will be giving more info.
 
Bone said:
...there are many known faults with the model, so if you see something amiss, it's probably already on the laundry list. By all means (with the exception of hand grenades), you're free to speak up about it, though.
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/Nomex ON :icon_lol:


As mentioned in this thread:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforu...62-Milviz-F-86&p=736538&viewfull=1#post736538


Please remember, I only bring these minor points up because this is a great product, and it has the ability to be an outstanding one! This is not an attempt to kick anyone's sand castle. :salute:


Gun ports/blast pane:

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Note the top gun port's location, well aft and only extending fwd to about the halfway point of the blast pane. Also note the space below the lowest gun port and the edge of the blast pane.


Wing Fence:

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Maybe a bit too high?


Stick Grip:

http://markhitcom.mysinablog.com/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=1495391

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Note the overall shape, the size and shape of the hand rest on the right side. My old man has a stick and throttle grip from the F-86's he flew so I'm quite familiar with the look and shape of them.

Here's a link to a cool 1/1 scale model of the stick grip, probably one of the most iconic grips ever made, used well into the century-series aircraft...

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Rev4/3101-3200/rev3134-F104-control-stick-ADV Models/00.shtm


Throttle:

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The pics above are from an F-104 but it's the same grip as used on Sabres, note the shape of the head where the buttons are located.
 
There were MANY variations in cockpit instrumentation, but this shows how the barrel portion of the airspeed indicator is supposed to show 'tens' of airspeed:

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This is not at all stock, but the ASI is accurate:

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Once again, please don't flame me too badly for all the nit-picking. This is one of the nicest models/VCs I've ever seen. I only bring this stuff up because I'm a Sabre junkie and this one has the makings of an absolute CLASSIC.

Cheers!

:guinness::icon29:
 
No flames.

Some of the stuff you're pointing out has already been fixed. (fences, pitot etc)

However, there are some inconsistencies with what you're showing.

The ASI has been corrected for awhile...

The throttle is correct for the version of the F-86F that we're doing.
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I include a pic for reference but you can also check the manual for the bird and you will see...

Oh and look at the ripped up armrests... oh deary me...
 
Let me know what is inconsistent and I'll see about digging up some better shots, just saw the facebook pics, some nice RCAF schemes! Are you guys based in Montreal? Any chance of a Canadair Mk.6 in Milviz's future? :cool:

I'm interested to see the throttle from the airplane you've used as a reference, do you have any top down shots of the throttle?
 
If you have the manual for the Sabre 30, you can check the throttle yourself. There is a top view in there. I think the pic we included shows it quite well enough that it's quite different from the one you showed... (No angled part, no triangular top down)

Edit: I have now found an online pic of the manual showing the correct throttle...

http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/Images/Sabre/F-86/F86 Throttle.pdf

The inconsistencies are the throttle and the pics that are not F-86F-30's but rather 40's or, even, an A...

We will be doing more pics shortly.

We are indeed based in Montreal but, there is no Canadair in the future.

@Snurdley, Materials are not done yet. All pics are WIPS.

Buzz number? For which livery?
 
krazycolin said:
If you have the manual for the Sabre 30, you can check the throttle yourself. There is a top view in there. I think the pic we included shows it quite well enough that it's quite different from the one you showed... (No angled part, no triangular top down)

Edit: I have now found an online pic of the manual showing the correct throttle...

http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/Images/Sabre/F-86/F86 Throttle.pdf

The inconsistencies are the throttle and the pics that are not F-86F-30's but rather 40's or, even, an A...
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I believe the pic you posted is from this site, which concerns an F-86F-35:

http://www.almansur.com/sabre/cockpit.html

This is the same throttle as in the pics I posted above. It is the angle you are viewing it from that is misleading, same as in the artist's conception in the manual.

As for the gun blast pane, with the exception of very early A's that had rectangular ports, if it was a Sabre and had 6 x .50 cal MGs, it used the same blast pane, from the A through the E to the F. The only other exception is about 12 aircraft, some Es, some Fs, were used in a USAF experiment (Project Gunval) during the Korean war that installed 2x 20mm cannons in place of the 6 x .50 cals.
 
Not only is this a stunning model and textures, but it is impressive that Milviz are receptive to suggestions to make it even better (hardly rivet counting). I'll be buying this for sure. :applause:
 
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