Scenery Issues

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Steven KLein

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In some of my installs, the water is not at 0 elevation, but shows up on the hills covering the land and in some instances, the coastline ends up on a hillside or elevated land. It doesn't happen everywhere, but usually where the landmass rises out of the water close to the shore like in the Phillipines, New Guinea and some other areas.
Just curious about a possible cause. I tend to ignore it though because it will happen in one install and not in another using the same scenery. I'm sure it's some type of scenery conflict. Thanks.
 
Hello Steven. Do you have any scenery installed or are we talking about stock CFS2?

If you do have scenery add-ons installed, what are you using?
 
The main reason is likely to be whether you have Rhumbas mesh active (or not).

CFS 2 shipped with pre-shuttle mission mesh.
When Rhumba created his mesh in 2008/9, using shuttle mission data, he uncovered that some landmasses were incorrectly located, some Pacific islands significantly so.

As a result, when viewing default (PTO) scenery in a Sim install that uses Rhumbas mesh, you'll find lot's of areas with sloping water.

Some examples:

Japanese Home Islands, Malaysia, areas of the DEI...

It's the reason I started creating my scenery packs.

Furthermore, if you're using add-on scenery packs made before Rhumbas mesh was created, you'll find the same issue.
 
Maskrider scenery doesn't work well with the water because it was made earlier.I used Rhumbas mesh for one of UT's scenery but the water also included the Gilbert Islands, problem the Gilberts were made by MR and were covered with water.I now use the UT scenery whenever possible.

Hiede
 
Thanks to both of you for your.insights. I'll now start checking and noting where I see sloping water and noting which scenery or scenery pack was used and try to correct it if I can. Thanks again.
 
Browncoat said:
Hello Steven. Do you have any scenery installed or are we talking about stock CFS2?

If you do have scenery add-ons installed, what are you using?
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I have a lot of add-on scenery packs installed, but I don't know how many. I can tell you that I have a number of Maskrider's packs, Xavier's East Asia and Japan. scenery and others.Most of the issues with sloping water occurs are the coastlines of the larger islands such as Japan, the Phillipines, Formosa, New Guinea. I have some of UTs scenery installed, but I don't seem to have any problems with those . I do use Rhumba:s Mesh in most of my installs which may be part of the problem as others have said.Hope I answered your questions. Thanks.
 
Hi guys; haven't had the chance to play in awhile and trying to make sure I have all the proverbial ducks in a row here. ICR if or where the scenery dates are located so I can make sure that they are with the right mesh. I used to have a lot of MR's packs ( may he be resting in peace) and then went to Rhumba's mesh. Heide , Thank You ! for that date , now how can I locate the date to create a before and after Rhumba order. Any guidance appreciated on this silly question but lately some CRS has been popping up about the game.
 
Steven KLein said:
I have a lot of add-on scenery packs installed, but I don't know how many. I can tell you that I have a number of Maskrider's packs, Xavier's East Asia and Japan. scenery and others.Most of the issues with sloping water occurs are the coastlines of the larger islands such as Japan, the Phillipines, Formosa, New Guinea. I have some of UTs scenery installed, but I don't seem to have any problems with those . I do use Rhumba:s Mesh in most of my installs which may be part of the problem as others have said.Hope I answered your questions. Thanks.
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Steven

Both the Maskrider and Xavier scenery was made before Rhumba's mesh,the Philippines has been redone but I haven't tried it yet.I think both their scenery packs were the stock scenery with the airfields put in.There is mesh made back then and Talon's old installs uses it,some of the mesh goes back to 2003.Now the stock scenery isn't accurate in areas.Rhumba's mesh I think is done more accurately and causes conflicts with the stock scenery.

UT has moved the scenery he's done to accurate locations,that's why it works so well.

I hope I explained it right.

Hiede
 
Fibber said:
Heide; Thank you, I think I get it. In a synopsis, UT's is Rhumba and MR and Talon are stock. Am I right ?
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Fibber.

Talon didn't do scenery,he just used what was available at the time.MR and Xavier just used the stock scenery.There was mesh made at the time that enhanced it so he used it.

UT scenery should work with the Rhumba water.I don't use it.
The biggest problem is people try to put to much scenery into CFS2 and it won't work.What my son and I do is just put in the scenery for the area we're working in.We have about 15 installs including the ones Talon used,one is from when PHP was first started.That was over 20 years ago.

Hiede
 
Perhaps these links on "MaskRider's" site will help when you visit his page through the link at the top of this forum -
Scenery Downloads - Stock Mesh & Masks
Scenery Downloads - Rhumba Mesh & Masks
 
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