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SCS Tu-134 v2.0 FSX portover

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Rallymodeller said:
...It has kind of a racy look to it...
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I agree...

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The Tu-134UB-L is a bit on the weird side, though...

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Tupolev glued a Tu-22M nose on a regular Tu-134 to make a cheap bomber trainer... Clever, but not for everybody's taste...

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Photo credits: Bernie Leighton, Sergey Krivchikov, Alex Beltyukov
 
I just wanted to try a short navigation practice flight from EDAH to EDDP, but ran into another (known) variety of an electrical system bug. At the top of descent. Dead in the water. Probably because I ran into a bug with the hydraulic systems before (no braking) and had to reload the plane. *Grr*

If you do the refill procedure for the hydraulic system for the brakes (switches OH11 and OH12), wait until the left system is completely filled before filling the right one.

As for the electric system, there's an alleged fix (which I have not tried yet) on Avsim.su.
http://www.avsimrus.com/f/fs2004-paneli-samoletov-41/rap-115-v-scs-tu-134-a-55642.html


Doing some reading up in the thread on the portover in the russian forums at the moment and lots of users ran into the same bugs and seem to be just as inept on starting this bird as we are. :D

I've also updated the manual in the NAS-1 section with a small tutorial on how to obtain headings and distances for the system (via NCalc).
Also, I've written down the fixes for the annoying fuel pump and GPWS sounds.


And here's a tip for ILS approaches:
To unlock the indicator bars on the ADI, press the "SVK System Test" (TEST CBK; LO2) button on the lower overhead.


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Just read a tip on the release thread about a mysterious button on the electric panel...and guess what it does!?
MY POWER IS BACK! AHAHAHAHAHAHA! FRIGGIDY FRAK YEAH!

I've immediately put this hint the master document (also added a ToC).
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LgF2KWc1IrFpyr0W9C-5wuPu0Ki0nxijZ0jHOf_8y0g/edit#



vonstroheim said:
Tupolev glued a Tu-22M nose on a regular Tu-134 to make a cheap bomber trainer... Clever, but not for everybody's taste...
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I think the USAF used a Convair T-29 with a Starfighter nose to train crews on using its radar.
 
You just know the learning curve is worth it when you can just kick back and take in this view:

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This thing is as hard to touch down as a 727 though.

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P.S:
I've amended my documentation with a section on autolands.
 
Great News!!! :jump::very_drunk: THx Bjoern.:encouragement:

Finally this piece of art receive well deserved attention outside the iron curtain!

I recommend learn the Russian aeronautical philosophy with the SD Yak-40. Supronov wrote the best russian manual. Later move to the PTu-154B2 for learn the Doppler Navigation system (NVU-B3). Finally, only due to the lack of proper documentation learn this bird.

I hope that with Bjoern iniciative, we can solve the problem of the lack of documentation and "return" to the original Aeroflot scheme. Yak-40->Tu-134->Tu-154-> Long range airliner->Tu144D.

P.S. Remember that in this forum Vl82m collected some documentation. Here.
Need to study the english manual for the 134 (which I hope is not too outdated).
https://yadi.sk/i/SWeVYMzBdo3ie
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I suppose that is Uudated. Vlad wrote this manual a few months ago because he saw here and in other forums expectation from non russian simmers.
 
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Read my documentation, a WL82's documents are all linked or referred to in there (except for the video). ;)
 
Bjoern said:
Read my documentation, a WL82's documents are all linked or referred to in there (except for the video). ;)
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In the link provided, Vlad share with us pdfs from a old Tu-134 addon not listed in the Google Document.
Maybe these documents are useful for any user.
 
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I'm in a process to write up htm checklist and reference for this plane (both the FS9 v2.0 and FSX one). I have fixed the bad wording of the original reference text one, and added tables where needed. I also added the pressure conversion script to the ref one that one of the Russians did for the Tu-154M originally (since these old Russian birds use QFE below the airport transition to QNH (usually 900 meters) both in take off and landing). I'll post them here when I'm done with them ;)
 
Bjoern, your latest sets of fixes broke the gyros for me completely, they're now stuck in showing north. :(
 
Bjoern said:
Didn't touch the gyros at all.


Load/save module installed?
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That's the only part of your additions I didn't install with the 0_keycontrol.xml which I removed after the first load, no need for it personally for me.
Apparently the gyro problem kinda fixed itself, just don't know how exactly :banghead:
Might have something to do with those two usable switches on the CB over the APU control (all tho there are actually 3, the third one is the first bottom-most left one, but it's flipped on all the time). Or the problem was elsewhere.

One thing tho that you could look into: on your helper panel the 3 navigator gauges get behind the temperature status one.
 
Adonis said:
That's the only part of your additions I didn't install with the 0_keycontrol.xml which I removed after the first load, no need for it personally for me.
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Keycontrol shouldn't be in there...oops.

Might have something to do with those two usable switches on the CB over the APU control (all tho there are actually 3, the third one is the first bottom-most left one, but it's flipped on all the time). Or the problem was elsewhere.
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My documentation says that these switches are for the backup ADIs.

One thing tho that you could look into: on your helper panel the 3 navigator gauges get behind the temperature status one.
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Add this below the "background_color=" line for [Window05]:
draw_order00=gauge04,gauge03,gauge02,gauge01
 
A few extra additions on my part, so the plane gets closer to the original FS9 one (mind you my non-unicode language is set to russian so I can see the Russian characters in both FSX and FS9):

Under [weight_and_balance]
max_number_of_stations = 7 (in the FS9 one's it is set to 50, tho there are a total of only 7)

station_load.0= "176.000, 54.95, 0.000, 0.000, ШТУРМАН"
station_load.1= "530.000, 48.79, 0.000, 0.000, ЭКИПАЖ"
station_load.2= "12566.000, 5.91, 0.000, 0.000, 76 ПАСС"
station_load.3= "253.532, 34.45, 0.000, 0.000, б/ПР+ПРОД"
station_load.4= "143.400, -21.98, 0.000, 0.000, б/ПР/ЗАД"
station_load.5= "1322.774, 42.01, 0.000, 0.000, ПЕРЕД/БАГ"
station_load.6= "3968.321, -27.72, 0.000, 0.000, ЗАДН/БАГ"

if you want the names in English:

station_load.0= "176.000, 54.95, 0.000, 0.000, Navigator"
station_load.1= "530.000, 48.79, 0.000, 0.000, Pilots"
station_load.2= "12566.000, 5.91, 0.000, 0.000, 76 PAX"
station_load.3= "253.532, 34.45, 0.000, 0.000, Front Steward+Eq"
station_load.4= "143.400, -21.98, 0.000, 0.000, Aft Steward+Eq"
station_load.5= "1322.774, 42.01, 0.000, 0.000, Front Bag"
station_load.6= "3968.321, -27.72, 0.000, 0.000, Aft Bag"


Next, the fuel, the FS9 one has more fuel in the external tanks:
Under [fuel]

External1 = -1.3, -8.3, 0, 1495, 0
External2 = -1.3, 8.3, 0, 1495, 0

Original for the FSX one is:
External1 = -1.5, -8.5, 0, 1297, 0
External2 = -1.5, 8.5, 0, 1297, 0

Flaps setting that are true to the real plane:

[Flaps.0]
type= 1
span-outboard= 0.898
extending-time= 19.700
system_type= 0
damaging-speed= 216.000
blowout-speed= 280.000
lift_scalar= 1.000
drag_scalar= 1.000
pitch_scalar= 1.100
flaps-position.0= 0.000, 0.000
flaps-position.1= 5.000, 0.000
flaps-position.2= 10.000, 0.000
flaps-position.3= 15.000, 0.000
flaps-position.4= 20.000, 0.000
flaps-position.5= 25.000, 0.000
flaps-position.6= 30.000, 0.000
 
My aircraft.cfg says:
station_load.0 = "680, 43, 0, 0, Crew"
station_load.1 = "0, 0, 0, 0, Passengers"
station_load.2 = "0, 35, 0, 0, Front Baggage"
station_load.3 = "0, -25, 0, 0, Rear Baggage"
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I'll use your amended payload stations though.

Fuel and flaps are the same as yours.



Looks like you're using a different release than I do. Mine is the latest for FSX (see documentation for a link).
 
Window05 with wind correction gauge:

Code: 
size_mm=800,500
window_size_ratio=1.00
position=6
ident=
visible=0
background_color=0,0,0
draw_order00=gauge05,gauge04,gauge03,gauge02,gauge01

gauge00=Tu134_Mods!stab_sw_mod, 0,0,181,128
gauge01=Tu134_Mods!Temp_Status,0,150,500,167
gauge02=SCS_Tu134!LBU, 0,310,190,190
gauge03=SCS_Tu134!ZUK, 190,310,190,190
gauge04=SCS_Tu134!NI, 380,310,190,190
gauge05=SCS_Tu134!ZW, 570,310,190,190
 
Bjoern said:
Looks like you're using a different release than I do. Mine is the latest for FSX (see documentation for a link).
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Same release, I just have two separate panel configs, one with the KLN-90B from the Tu-154B-2 and one without.

The fuel from the FS9 version i listed above should be the correct one.

Thanks for the addition of the Wind correction gauge, it should really be added besides the 3 NAS-1 ones, since it's used all the time.

EDIT: I just seen an update to the FS9 one that has been out a while, one of the differences was:
empty_weight_CG_position = -6.75.000, 0, 0

and the old one was commented out.
 
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The reload works. Odd bug really, seems like the switches don't load correctly the first time. There are differences between the first and second load in switch placements.
 
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