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Skysim Mirage 3 out!
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deathfromafar
Charter Member
SkySim Mirage III/5 is a superb product covering a large number of sub variants<o></o
of this elegant delta combat aircraft but not all of them.<o
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Skysim already updated its Mirage once with some bonus models / repaints and<o
I am hoping that more models / repaints could eventually be added in future updates.<o
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Mirage III/5 had a superb career on the international market and its construction<o
at Bordeaux Merignac was fully modular, giving customers the opportunity to<o
have almost unique sub variants.<o
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I am quite certain that the Skysim Mirage is also quite modular and that my wish list <o
below for new models could eventually be done with not necessarly too much work.<o
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I review my entire large reference library of books and magazine about the Mirage<o
and here are my findings compared to the actual Skysim offer of models and my own<o
wish list for new models by order of priority :<o
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New Model Request 1.<o
Mirage IIIEA Argentina / Mirage IIIEL Lebanon / Mirage IIIEV Venezuela<o
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These IIIE do not have the undernose Doppler bulge like the IIIO of Australia offered<o
By SkySim but contrary to the IIIO standard ‘’straight’’ fin type, they have the enlarged <o
base fin type. <o
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These IIIE are superb subjects for spectacular and colorfull repaints and the<o
IIIEA of Argentine lived real combat during the Falkland ( Malvinas ) War. <o
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New Model request 2.<o
Mirage 5P of Peru<o
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These Mirage 5 have the pitot on tip nose type, like the Belgium 5BA but the<o
they have the enlarged base fin type.<o
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Peruvian 5P’s have some interesting color scheme during their career including<o
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a Green/Grey camo with a large red/white/red fin flash covering one third of the fin<o
2.
a Sand/Brown camo operational scheme with more standard national markings<o
3.
the same Sand/Brown camo with the national markings of Argentina, the entire<o
Peruvian 5P fleet having been transfered to Argentina a few days before the<o
end of the Falkland War.<o
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New Model Request 3.<o
Mirage 5PA of Pakistan<o
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These Mirage 5 have the pitot undernose tip nose type and the straight fin type.<o
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New Model request 4.<o
Mirage 5AD of Abu Dhabi<o
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The 5AD are exactly the same model of the Belgium 5BA but without later added <o
‘’Carapace’’ Ecm/Eccm Large Housing at the aft base of the fin offered by Skysim <o
but unique to Belgian Airframes.<o
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I am sure that our friends Frank and Jens-Ole that have been both directly involved in<o
the SkySim Mirage project can relay this info to Mark Harper.<o
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The topic is open to discussion<o
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VaporZ, MAH, VJP<o
Military Aviation Historian<o
Virtual Jet Pilot<o
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I like the idea of new packs for the Mirage. I figure businesswise the best route would be all new packs of different era Mirage fighters. I don't mind buying updates or even new packs outright. The versions posted by VaporZ are fine but in addition, a early version pack including the C would be great as well as a Kfir & Cheetah pack with with the early Kfir & Cheetah up to the Cheetah C/Kfir C10. A dedicated pack of two seaters would be great at some point too. I am so impressed with the current pack I fly it nearly every day and encourage folks I know to buy it. I am totally willing to buy new packs if/when they come into being.
JensOle
SOH-CM-2023
First of all I do not speak for Mark or the Skysim team.
I don't think we will see any more Mirage models, last chance was the last update which brought us the recce IIIR(S) and some new loadouts. The reasons are many, but the Mirage is not a main stream aircraft in the FS world and does not sell as much as american fighters like the F-16, and an addon pack with even lesser known Mirage models will probably only interest a few. I would personally very much wanted to see many more Mirage models, but I think we have to be happy with the models Mark already has given us.
The second generation of canard Mirages as the Kfir and Cheetah's will probably attract more sales, but these models will more or less need a complete rebuild compared to the Mirage 3/5 model. We have a few of the canard updated Mirage models which will be rather easy to build, but then you still need the Kfir to top the package of. Personally I hope for a SAAF Cheetah E which is someplace between in both shape and the need for a rebuild.
I don't think we will see any more Mirage models, last chance was the last update which brought us the recce IIIR(S) and some new loadouts. The reasons are many, but the Mirage is not a main stream aircraft in the FS world and does not sell as much as american fighters like the F-16, and an addon pack with even lesser known Mirage models will probably only interest a few. I would personally very much wanted to see many more Mirage models, but I think we have to be happy with the models Mark already has given us.
The second generation of canard Mirages as the Kfir and Cheetah's will probably attract more sales, but these models will more or less need a complete rebuild compared to the Mirage 3/5 model. We have a few of the canard updated Mirage models which will be rather easy to build, but then you still need the Kfir to top the package of. Personally I hope for a SAAF Cheetah E which is someplace between in both shape and the need for a rebuild.
VaporZ
Charter Member
Here is my first SkySim Mirage repaint to be soon available in exclusivity at <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
the Sim-OutHouse add-on library : <o></o>
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Dassault Mirage IIIRD, Armée de l'Air, ER 3/33 "Moselle", s/n 364, coded 33-TO<o></o>
BA-124 Strassbourg-Entzheim, ca.1978.<o></o>
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Squadron fin marking is the famed "Cocotte" ( paper bird ) inherited from "BR11" <o></o>
French Unit of WW1 flying Nieuport Bi-Planes ! <o></o>
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Take note that all Mirage IIIR / IIIRD of the French Armée De l’Air are wearing the red ejection warning triangle without yellow outline on the intake and that 33-XX codings are slightly larger than those equivalent codings worned by Mirage IIIE french squadrons.<o></o>
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My cross reference material are from Air Fan, Air Action and Air Zone french magazines, Koku Fan Japan, Scale Aircraft Modelling, World Air Power Journal, plus many military aviation photography websites like ‘’Airliners.Net’’.<o></o>
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I am actlually working on IIIR / IIIRD repaints of ER 1/33 ‘’Belfort’’ ( Battle Axe markings ) and ER 2/33 ‘’Savoie’’ ( Seagull markings ) <o></o>
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></o>Dassault Mirage IIIRD, Armée de l'Air, ER 3/33 "Moselle", s/n 364, coded 33-TO<o
></o>BA-124 Strassbourg-Entzheim, ca.1978.<o
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></o>Squadron fin marking is the famed "Cocotte" ( paper bird ) inherited from "BR11" <o
></o>French Unit of WW1 flying Nieuport Bi-Planes ! <o
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></o>Take note that all Mirage IIIR / IIIRD of the French Armée De l’Air are wearing the red ejection warning triangle without yellow outline on the intake and that 33-XX codings are slightly larger than those equivalent codings worned by Mirage IIIE french squadrons.<o
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></o>My cross reference material are from Air Fan, Air Action and Air Zone french magazines, Koku Fan Japan, Scale Aircraft Modelling, World Air Power Journal, plus many military aviation photography websites like ‘’Airliners.Net’’.<o
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></o>I am actlually working on IIIR / IIIRD repaints of ER 1/33 ‘’Belfort’’ ( Battle Axe markings ) and ER 2/33 ‘’Savoie’’ ( Seagull markings ) <o
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. I'd really love to see some Latin-American and African/Middle East air forces represented, even if it means some artistic license re the external appearance.Before I forget: those are awesome shots, Mithrin
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Dag
Guest
I bought it..... it's great:amen:
deathfromafar
Charter Member
Jankees, before you takeoff, make sure you cycle the fuel transfer switch all the way through it's settings and back to the original position(the ALL position). What seems to be happening is that the center tank goes dry the fuel transfer/feed isn't working and maintaining fuel flow from the remaining fuel in other tanks then the engine flames out After a friend pointed that out to me, I have never had another flameout with the Mirage.
fsafranek
SOH-CM-2024
Interesting. What flavor of FSX are you running? SP1, SP2, and/or Acceleration?
fsafranek
SOH-CM-2024
It's great to read stuff like that. It means that I'm not alone in spotting those sort of details. Looking forward to your completing them.Take note that all Mirage IIIR / IIIRD of the French Armée De l’Air are wearing the red ejection warning triangle without yellow outline on the intake and that 33-XX codings are slightly larger than those equivalent codings worned by Mirage IIIE french squadrons.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
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Dag
Guest
I'm doing a 5BR at the moment, standard wraparound scheme. I believe the tips of the pitots in front of the windscreen are untextured. They are off course black on the "Mephisto" but they are even more noticable on a standard schemed 5BR. Can this be fixed? I posted at the Skysim forums but noone replied so I try here.
Thanks
Thanks
fsafranek
SOH-CM-2024
The masts at least can be painted but they will need to both be the same color. They get their color from a single small square on the FT_T (Fuselage Top) texture. (green area on attached image). Both masts will share this color swatch.
Glad to hear the 5BR is being done in stardard markings. That was asked for before release and I've been having too much fun with early Armée de l'Air markings to work on that one. So that's great news.
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Dag
Guest
Thanks Frank, I knew about the mast squares at least. The tips is the problem and these are coloured on other paint schemes.
