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Spitfire!!!!

bazzar

bazzar

Charter Member 2018
More testing and first views of the VC. She's actually beginning to fly like a Spitfire too.
 

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If i may quote one of the most distinguished rock&roll legends who passed away last year :

" GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY !! " (would look good on a Spitfire's nose too, éh ? ;-)

Holy mother of all Spifires! Looks like you truly hit the jackpot with this all brand new iteration of one of the most distinguished WWII propfighters, Baz ! :dizzy: :applause::applause::applause:
 
Thanks for the kind words mate. Well, if we were going to do this icon real justice, MSFS has to be the place to do it. Lots of finessing to go but she's coming right.:engel016:
 
And another one from XP11 this one a MK IXC...Both looking good, congrats, but not buying any of them. Have too many Spits already and very good ones from Aeroplane Heaven and some other devs, going to keep them flying on P3D v 5 (good enough for me). As stated before not going to spend money on ever, and ever, and ever, the same models although I understand devs opinions.
Regards ,
 
That looks great! How's the ground handling? I haven't figured out yet if MSFS has trouble with tail dragger ground handling or if it's a rudder authority / vertical tail volume control issue? Also the power of the slip stream effect from the prop on the tail surfaces. I just know a lot of tail draggers I fly now are absolutely uncontrollable / The rudder is useless on the ground. Having said that, it definitely will not stop me from purchasing this Spitfire. Thanks for the previews. Ken
 
Sundog said:
That looks great! How's the ground handling? I haven't figured out yet if MSFS has trouble with tail dragger ground handling or if it's a rudder authority / vertical tail volume control issue? Also the power of the slip stream effect from the prop on the tail surfaces. I just know a lot of tail draggers I fly now are absolutely uncontrollable / The rudder is useless on the ground. Having said that, it definitely will not stop me from purchasing this Spitfire. Thanks for the previews. Ken
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Flight mode or flight control you have to choose between legacy and modern if I'm right...much better now since previous update
regards
 
Beaufighter said:
And another one from XP11 this one a MK IXC...Both looking good, congrats, but not buying any of them. Have too many Spits already and very good ones from Aeroplane Heaven and some other devs, going to keep them flying on P3D v 5 (good enough for me). As stated before not going to spend money on ever, and ever, and ever, the same models although I understand devs opinions.
Regards ,
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Can you imagine MSFS without a native Spitfire, Beau ?? That would be a disgrace, wouldn't it !

This is not gonna be a Spitfire as we know all of them sofar, far from it. They were all beautiful and great, one after the other, but time has changed and our beloved virtual flying world has changed... Dramatically !!

We NEED a Spitfire ( or two, three...;-) in our new dramatically changed virtually flying world. And we're gonna get it ! I mean, did you have a real good look at the screenies, Beau ? And the're just screenies, right ? :smile:

If you go here you can see them full screen: https://www.facebook.com/Aeroplaneheaven/

P.S. i'm not affiliated with AH whatsoever. Just a Spitfire nut who thinks it is THE most beautiful and gracious looking prop fighterplane in the world. Real or virtual. I'd rather dump MSFS than go without a Spit in it. ;-) ( and the same goes for a DC-3/C-47 ;-)
 
Sundog said:
That looks great! How's the ground handling? I haven't figured out yet if MSFS has trouble with tail dragger ground handling or if it's a rudder authority / vertical tail volume control issue? Also the power of the slip stream effect from the prop on the tail surfaces. I just know a lot of tail draggers I fly now are absolutely uncontrollable / The rudder is useless on the ground. Having said that, it definitely will not stop me from purchasing this Spitfire. Thanks for the previews. Ken
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There are definitely issues with the sim and how it handles ground handling. The way propwash is modeled, it needs a lot of care to use - it is way too powerful. Castoring wheels are a nightmare too with none of the subtlety of P3D/FSX. We are still waiting on the next fix/upgrade which may change everything again, who knows. All the control authorities are excessive in my opinion and do not bear much relationship to real world by the time you're finished. We should not have to issue hardware recommendations for sensitivity for example.

With the work we had to put in on the engine and prop, I strongly suspect that the sim is not happy with V12s either, especially when power begins to get up above say 500hp. and it seems that the sim has never heard of manifold pressures, or at least what they're for.

To be fair, it is a visual simulator first, designed to show off land and skyscapes - it is logical to suggest, therefore, that it was originally intended for low and slow flying - not what a Spitfire was built for or fast jets for that matter.

With the right amount of feedback from devs, like P3D/FSX, it will change, I am sure.:engel016:
 
Javis said:
Can you imagine MSFS without a native Spitfire, Beau ?? That would be a disgrace, wouldn't it !

P.S. i'm not affiliated with AH whatsoever. Just a Spitfire nut who thinks it is THE most beautiful and gracious looking prop fighterplane in the world. Real or virtual. I'd rather dump MSFS than go without a Spit in it. ;-) ( and the same goes for a DC-3/C-47 ;-)
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Hi Javis, I'm not a Spitfire nut, rather an airplane nut since my childwood. And would gladly trade a new Spit, although I love the plane, for a LAG 7 or a Ki.84 Hayate, a Fiat G55, a Tempest just for a change. I know about devs reasons Bazzar put in a very explicit way, agree with him, but it´s always Spit, Mustangs, Me-109 etc...
Regards
 
Beaufighter said:
Hi Javis, I'm not a Spitfire nut, rather an airplane nut since my childwood. And would gladly trade a new Spit, although I love the plane, for a LAG 7 or a Ki.84 Hayate, a Fiat G55, a Tempest just for a change.
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Well, trust me, that's not going to happen, Beau... I know that and you know that, right ?... :) That's why i think we should be very pleased we'll have a native MSFS Spit to fly within the forseeable future. Sure, we can fly any of them (and Ki.84, G55, and Tempest as well) all over the place in FSX/P3D but for me personally that just won't rock my boat anymore, nore my aeroplane..

I know about devs reasons Bazzar put in a very explicit way, agree with him, but it´s always Spit, Mustangs, Me-109 etc...
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You're absolutely right, my friend, but as Bruce Hornsby already said many years ago " that's just the way it is, some things will never change..." Developing aircraft models for FSX/P3D takes up a lot of time and effort, developing for MSFS doubles or even triples that plus it's a nightmare because of inadequate SDK. Atleast that's what i have gathered sofar. We need to be grateful that there are devs outthere who are even willing to step into that strange new developing jungle in their right state of mind. :)
 
If i may quote one of the most distinguished rock&roll legends who passed away last year :

" GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY !! " (would look good on a Spitfire's nose too, éh ? ;-)

Holy mother of all Spifires! Looks like you truly hit the jackpot with this all brand new iteration of one of the most distinguished WWII propfighters, Baz ! :dizzy: :applause::applause:
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Jarvis, If I may hijack the thread, just for a moment, to share a Chuck Berry experience. Around forty years ago my wife and I attended the New Orleans Jazz Festival. Chuck Berry was one of the headliners. We arrive for his performance early and found ourselves a nice grassy spot to sit on. Little by little others came to sit around us. They then lit up their favorite pot products. Since, we were not marijuana users it didn't take us long before the residual smoke had us figuratively floating above the ground. Let's just say that Chuck Berry's performance that day was extortionary for us. :)

Now, back to Baz's Spitfire.
 
Will you be giving this a proper soundset? One can only hope the AH Mosquito will be coming soon. The spit is so over-rated. ;-)
 
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