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The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

Pattist-Walraven PW-1?

:icon29: for Ralf on the Sikorsky. I thought the French looking tail might throw you all off.
 
Just tuned in again - our Moses has really scored with an exotic lady there ! You would have beaten me fair & square, Ferry. I don't know where he finds them all.
 
Hehe. Just got lucky really on that one. Had it stashed away for a rainy day.

How about this monoplane with odd landing gear?
 
Methink Moses' mystery is an "avion laboratoire Messier". AFAIK, it had no specific designation - but again my sources aren't flawless ;)
 
More or less agree with & Co., and definitely agree with lefty that the bit where the pilot goes isn't very clear! It's obviously an experiment to test that crazy, backwards tricycle undercarriage arrangement. The poor old aircraft has some Italian characteristics, but if I had to plump for any nationality, I'd say French*. Don't know much about their projects, I'm a bit better on German & British experimentals.


*Nord?
 
Actually, it was a testbed for retracting landing gear - mounted along with a fixed one.
It is sometimes also referred to as "Georges Messier", 1st flight on April 21st, 1934.

It seems the CT-001 never went past the mockup stage.
 
Looks to be more a 'U-2' style landing gear, with two mains and two 'outriggers' under the wings.

:)
 
Now that we've all decided it's a Messier, this is Moses' cue to reveal it as a Popocatapetl Mk2 from the 27th Guadalajara Pursuit Squadron, designed by Emperor Maximilian himself, built by the Tijuana Co-Op and piloted by Jose Ximenes, who was so small they didn't need a proper cockpit..
 
It's MESSIER than most aircraft designs, that's for sure. :bs: Moooooooo

Can we have another mystery please? Or have you finally run out of the little darlings? :kilroy:
 
Even though Lefty was first with the right designation, I'm giving this one to & Co who was on track with the Messier from the start. :icon29: Well done!

Messier used this one as a testbed for all kinds of landing gear. Here is the same plane as a taildragger!

Over to you Yann-
 
Thanks a lot, Kevin.
Your sources appear to give your latest as a CT-001 while mine state what I wrote earlier, i.e. that the CT-001 never flew... :isadizzy:

Until someone sorts out this new mystery, let's go for sumfin' different - and please let me know if it doesn't comply with Ye Olde Unwritten Forume Rule Of Thumb: this helo is unusual for 2 reasons, one of them being that it bore a very famous name, though not when it comes to send things flying - at least on purpose.
 
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