The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[Moses03]

It is the Brown. Designed, built and flown by a teenager in Toledo, Ohio. Mr. Brown was quite accomplished!

There are two seats on top. Kind of hard to tell but they are there. Also, been trying to find a patent drawing on the struts but no luck yet.


Anyways, good show gX.

 

[giruXX]

Moses03 I thought your dark image comes from Europe or some kind of “dark country”. Nevertheless, I tried to check the hypothesis if it were American (i.e., the Brown 1927 biplane) already yesterday but identifying it is impossible as we don’t have newspapers from Ohio around here.

As to the technical details: Using a bar to connect upper and lower ailerons instead of wires is not unique (cf. Yakovlev AIR-1), i.e., not worth a patent. The pilot in the photo puts his arm around the rear of an empty right seat. This is how I came to hypothesize a four-seater.

Now let’s move forward in time a few years:

 

[pomme homme]

I'm afraid that I haven't a clue what it is. It's rather too modern for me. But when it's been identified, I'd be fascinated to know where it is and why, apparently, there are silver birch saplings growing up through the flooring material!

 

[giruXX]

Unfortunately, this homebuilt is not in aerofiles, nor in any book I know. However, several photos are on the web including wiki. Even so, I never got any background info about it.

The trees are decoration. I took that picture in August, i.e., at a time when they are supposed to be green (at least in this part of the world).

 

[lefty]

Digging deep, with tweed hat and pipe clenched between teeth, I have unearthed the Fischer Brause 35.

Cannot I/D the birch trees........

 

[giruXX]

Spot on, lefty

D-EAFB, Fischer Brause 35 seen at the Internationals Luftfahrtmuseum Manfred Pflumm at Schwenningen

 

[pomme homme]

Cannot I/D the birch trees........

Rumour has it that they are from Great Birnham Wood and were last seen heading in the direction of high Dunsinane Hill!

Digging deep, with tweed hat and pipe clenched between teeth .....

Oh, and can you please explain why your tweed hat was clenched between your teeth?

 

[lefty]

Raging certainty that someone would pick me up on the poor syntax....thank goodness some standards prevail in this forum, unlike my own dear country,where the Queen's English is murdered daily.........

Reckon this has been here before, but it's a nice wee machine -

 

[giruXX]

The "Korsa I" from Switzerland, perhaps?

 

[lefty]

Yessir, Swiis miss she is.....

 

[giruXX]

Here is another wee flyer for your amusement.

 

[wout]

Hi giruXX
Would that be one of the few W-3 Bantam single-seaters by Bill Warwick (USA)?

 

[giruXX]

Hi Walter. That's the one

 

[wout]

A grainy picture, but will post a much better one once the solution is in.
Advice: Not everything is what it looks.

 

[lefty]

OK Walter, an elderly-looking biplane with a very modern power unit and tail, and what looks to be a couple of motorcycle wheels. Probably a child of the 70's, and surely American ! Moses and Gxx waiting to pounce......

 

[Baragouin]

Good afternoon boys and girls!

May I dare to give you a friendly advice and please take it from what it is worth: what about moving away from US one-off light tourers and taildraggers?
Cheers
BG

 

[giruXX]

I am with Baragouin

 

[wout]

I understand BG`s remarks. However, I am afreaid that excluding certain categories may soon lead to duplication and finally the end of the forum.
All these one-of designs show that there is a wealth of "obscure" aircraft which may not be known to all forum members. I am learning every day!! And I like to remember that giants such as Clyde Cessna, Lloyd Stearman, Bill Piper etc. also started with homebuilts.

My entry is the Wallis Red Wing Blackbird N65022 (NC65022) by Stanley Wallis. The original engine was a 260hp Vord V8 engine. She later received a Continental W6670 radial (see photo) , but I donot know whether she actually flew with that engine. NC65022 now resides in the Yankee Air Museum at Willow Run Airport in Detroit, Mich.

 

[Moses03]

I do think we need some variety to stay fresh. There was a time we didn't even bother with light planes but we started running low of suitable candidates.

Maybe just try to mix things up more.


That said, how about this one?

 

[giruXX]

A Saro A.17 Cutty Sark perhaps?

(presumably the first prototype at the Olympia Aero Show, London 1929)