The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[giruXX]

It's impossible to fox a Scotsman

here is it in full:

 

[lefty]

Thanks Gx - believe me, this Scotsman is foxed quite a lot of the time - must be my age...!

Here's an obscurity- which means one of you lot will give me the answer in about five minutes -

 

[cthornburg]

Finnish Adaridi

As you know I just got Lear job so in the process of moving. So Open House

Chris

 

[lefty]

Good spot, Chris, with the little Finn - and good luck with the new job (flying Lear35's and Falcons - some have it tough.....!)

I have nothing in the wings, so - anybody like to step in with a new mystery, please ?

 

[wout]

Not that old and the picture is not that grainy. Sorry for that.

 

[giruXX]

The two-seat version of the Sellet-Pelletier Grillon 120, me thinks.

 

[wout]

That is her. I donot know whether the name Grillon 135 is official.
giroXX, please do me a favour and send a list of the aircraft you donot know.

Your turn, Sir!

 

[giruXX]

I am 100% sure that such a list would be endless, i.e., you must wait forever.

It is better to know where to search and to improve one’s search techniques.

My next one is an interesting aircraft. Which specific one is it? (i.e. not just manufacturer and type, but manufacturer and sub-type would be OK)

 

[giruXX]

Here is a second view in case you need it (which I didn't expect)

 

[giruXX]

There is a Napier Lion engine under the hood.

 

[Moses03]

Have no idea what this is other than it is from Europe. Guess we need several more clues.

Anyone else?

 

[giruXX]

I thought the community might have split in two parts. One who thinks that the last plane is too easy (and nobody of this group wants to get blamed for taking the cherry from the cake), and one who needs more hints.

The basic type was built more than 100 times. However, if you google for pictures with the type's name most of these show this very specific variant. It became famous with an extraordinary flight and it differs from its sisters by the engine and, most prominently, the coolers. This is why I thought it would be better to ask for this special variant.

 

[pomme homme]

The Napier Lion was quite prolifically used. Maybe your clue would be more effective if you were to say which variant this aeroplane employed. Just take a look at Lumsden's tome. The list is as long as my arm!

 

[lefty]

Yes, gX, just remember, mysteries are always easy when you know the answer ! I've been up a few blind alleys with this one already.......

 

[giruXX]

Ok, Ok. At the end you will agree


Famous designer who became leader of his own design bureau for many, many years. Several of his designs are still in service.

(The hint with the enigne was meant to define this specific airplane) I still think that it should be possible/easy to identify an aircraft that came out of series production. Compared to what you have shown or identified here before, this is ridiculous.
Based on the right book it would take 5 minutes. Based on a data file, say 30 or 45.

 

[giruXX]

some (elder than mine) sources say that the engine was a Liberty

Sorry, if this caused you headaches!!

The registration starts with RR-

 

[lefty]

Finally, a clue that has given it away ! (talk about Red herrings......) It's the Tupolev ANT-3 R-3/M-5 - depends on which book you are consulting !

 

[giruXX]

lefty!

What I know for sure is that it is RR-SOV flown by Gromov and Radzevich through Europe in a few days.

My first source named it Tupolev R-3 NL (for Napier Lion). This is why I thought the engine would be a good hint.
Now I found sources claiming another engine.

 

[lefty]

Thanks gX

I'll pull myself indoors from our heatwave (!) -how pleasant to be able to sit in the garden with a small glass....

Here's one which will avoid too much confusion as to its power plant...

 

[dan_pub]

Tadpole!

I have this contraption as the "Glider with Tadpole Wing" under development in Melbourne in 1945.
That's not much in way of designation but it's all I have I'm afraid.