The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.
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giruXX
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Lefty you are right and deserve the next 
. The picture appeared in Aero Digest, April 1928, page 634 with the following caption “The Irwin Meteorplane Racer, with a wing span of 14 ft. and powered with an Irwin 20 h.p. engine, has a speed of 137 m.p.h.”
It seems that this machine isn’t covered on aerofiles.com. The closest entry there is:
Irwin M-T-2
M-T-2 aka SP-1 1926 = 1pOB; 25hp Irwin Meteormotor; span: 14'0" length: 12'0" load: 175# v: 85/75/24 range: 200. Plywood construction. $1,165; POP (Irwin's estimate): about 40 [2616, et al], plus an unrecorded number sold as kits for $350 [579M, 3685, 7788, et al], less motor (the Meteormotor went for $625). One of the world's first successful small, personal airplanes.
. The picture appeared in Aero Digest, April 1928, page 634 with the following caption “The Irwin Meteorplane Racer, with a wing span of 14 ft. and powered with an Irwin 20 h.p. engine, has a speed of 137 m.p.h.”It seems that this machine isn’t covered on aerofiles.com. The closest entry there is:
Irwin M-T-2
M-T-2 aka SP-1 1926 = 1pOB; 25hp Irwin Meteormotor; span: 14'0" length: 12'0" load: 175# v: 85/75/24 range: 200. Plywood construction. $1,165; POP (Irwin's estimate): about 40 [2616, et al], plus an unrecorded number sold as kits for $350 [579M, 3685, 7788, et al], less motor (the Meteormotor went for $625). One of the world's first successful small, personal airplanes.
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The strange thing about that mystery is, that there is a photo at flickr which shows exactly the same line-up of aircraft and persons, but with a completely different background.
Have a look here
Any explanation for this?
Have a look here
Any explanation for this?
lefty
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Curious indeed - I suspect the hangar shot is the original - a clever job of replacing the scenery - difficult to do even in Photoshop..... I felt sure it was an Irwin - posted another model some years ago - and that Nieuport-style taping on struts and undercarriage is probably unique to Irwin.
Here's one with original background -
Here's one with original background -
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Thank you Mike
Weather overhere is a pleasant 22-24C though with quite some wind the last few days.
Mind you, since are women team reached the European final on Sunday, temperatures will start to equal the rest of (mid-south) Europe
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The flight by Turkish Captains Fethi and Sadik was quite an achievement. A 2,500km flight Istanbul-Damascus-Jerusalem-Cairo-Alexandria in 1914.
Next challenge has some sort of dual nationality.
Weather overhere is a pleasant 22-24C though with quite some wind the last few days.
Mind you, since are women team reached the European final on Sunday, temperatures will start to equal the rest of (mid-south) Europe
.The flight by Turkish Captains Fethi and Sadik was quite an achievement. A 2,500km flight Istanbul-Damascus-Jerusalem-Cairo-Alexandria in 1914.
Next challenge has some sort of dual nationality.
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pomme homme
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It looks like a tricycle undercarriage version of the Roger Adam RA-14 Loisirs. Maybe something that Maranda of Canada came up with after they bought (?) the rights to the design?
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Thank you, Walter. When first I saw the picture, it rang bells. But not until you suggested visualising it with conventional gear did the penny drop!
Anyhow, today I'm feeling just a little mischievous. So look at the image below - I apologise for the graininess but the original is very small - and don't give the obvious answer. Use that to pursue your research to say what, where and why it is!
Anyhow, today I'm feeling just a little mischievous. So look at the image below - I apologise for the graininess but the original is very small - and don't give the obvious answer. Use that to pursue your research to say what, where and why it is!
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..... and a few smaller bits added!
How about a clue? It started its life in a different continent from that where it achieved the form illustrated in the photograph, which was taken in a country that has since changed its name, and the name attributed to the mystery aircraft is connected with an early British childrens' television programme that featured an eponymous puppet character that scared my sister witless!
How about a clue? It started its life in a different continent from that where it achieved the form illustrated in the photograph, which was taken in a country that has since changed its name, and the name attributed to the mystery aircraft is connected with an early British childrens' television programme that featured an eponymous puppet character that scared my sister witless!
pomme homme
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Diddly dum, diddly dee .....?
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It could have been the cider but not the heat. Out west, we're enjoying sunny days but temperatures only in the low to mid twenties. I prefer that to the weather that is being endured 'darn sarf'.
I think that lefty should be the victor ludorum for making the effort and getting one out of three. You'll find the whole answer at https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1945/1945 - 2027.PDF. Oh, and the television programme wasn't Muffin the Mule (isn't that illegal?) but Sara & Hoppity. See the connection?
I'll look forward to moving onto the calm sanity of Mike's next offering.
I think that lefty should be the victor ludorum for making the effort and getting one out of three. You'll find the whole answer at https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1945/1945 - 2027.PDF. Oh, and the television programme wasn't Muffin the Mule (isn't that illegal?) but Sara & Hoppity. See the connection?
I'll look forward to moving onto the calm sanity of Mike's next offering.
lefty
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Thank you, Mike. However, I must claim 2/3 rather than the niggardly one that you offered - I did after all state Zimbabwe as the country of origin, and before Mr Ebagum took over it was indeed called Rhodesia !
As for Sara & Hoppity, never heard of it, probably because when it appeared in 1962, I was on an in-depth 3-year course of beer appreciation in the watering-holes of Leicestershire........
Here's a brave chap - hope he remembered to put in some ear plugs !
As for Sara & Hoppity, never heard of it, probably because when it appeared in 1962, I was on an in-depth 3-year course of beer appreciation in the watering-holes of Leicestershire........
Here's a brave chap - hope he remembered to put in some ear plugs !
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Ah, we return to the mysterious and fascinating world of Georges Sablier. This is the Sablier Type 1952, 00-28, the history of which I've never been able to fathom. Has anyone else succeeded where I've failed?
Oh, and Mike, I used to think that BA (Hons)(Leic) meant Bachelor of Arts. Now I know what the BA really stands for in Leicestershire! I congratulate anyone who achieves honours in beer appreciation. Was it a first?
Oh, and Mike, I used to think that BA (Hons)(Leic) meant Bachelor of Arts. Now I know what the BA really stands for in Leicestershire! I congratulate anyone who achieves honours in beer appreciation. Was it a first?
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