The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[wout]

Hi Mike
Of course you are right. I read my own text the wrong way.
This one may look familiar, altough it may not.

 

[lefty]

Well Walter, with my immense knowledge of GA machines (not !) I had to resort to some basic detective work (no, not image searching, just Googling the right things...)

and came up with ZU-XML, the Ravin 500 from Pretoria.

Winglets on a wee plane always seem a bit pretentious, eh ?

 

[wout]

Hi Mike
Spot on! Your knowledge of GA will automatically become immense this way. Glad to help
And now for someting completely different, I assume?

 

[lefty]

You assume correctly, Walter, but for once this one is not a floater, although it was built near the water (I think - there is some confusion about this, and its designation - Moses will explain all !)

 

[giruXX]

any relation to the Lenert C ?

if yes, would it be the Lenert Metal Biplane, N2246 ?

 

[lefty]

Uli is pretty well there, and that's where the trouble starts!

This is from Jane's 1931, which states it is the Lenart (not Lenert) Model C, X3735, with 165hp Continental.

The aircraft is considerably modified from the similarly registered 'Model B' shown in Aerofiles, with different tail unit, gear, and engine.

If our resident US expert can enlarge on this, I would be most grateful, particularly as regards the spelling of Lenart/Lenert !

In the meantime, over to gX......

 

[fabulousfour]

And if I may add a question concerning the Lenert.

There is a picture of the Lenert C (can be found here) which considerably differs from the mystery photo (e.g. engine installation and tail unit), that's why I ruled it out.
Can anyone shed a light on this, why there are two very different Lenert C biplanes?

 

[lefty]

That's what I mean by confusion - assuming that Moses' original post was of X3745, this machine had at least three incarnations, with variations in tail conformation, engine and gear.

http://www.antiqueairfield.com/attachment/showu/174d7a49-b2b2-46a8-b266-3ae61f625d82 - this one dated 1928

As for the Lenart/Lenert, Jane's got it wrong, and the Lenert spelling is what appears on the aircraft ! Here is the unphotoshopped image - dated 1931. 'All Metal but the Tires' - and, hopefully, the upholstery !

 

[giruXX]

Thanks for clarification, Mike.

Here is the next

 

[Moses03]

Sorry Mike, been out of pocked the last few days. Will see what I have on your metal aeroplane when I'm back home tonight. Thanks- K.



Edit: No luck with any additional photo of your Lenert Mike.

And not having much luck with Uli's parasol. There are a lot of [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]2pOhwM to search....of course assuming it's from the USA.[/FONT][/FONT]

 

[lefty]

Well I went the other route (JJ) and came up with the Timm Collegiate (C-185 ?)

 

[giruXX]

Timm Collegiate is OK

I think it is this one from Aerofiles: Timm K-100 [67] Anzani engine

 

[lefty]

Thanks Uli. Sloppy research by yours truly - the Anzani version is in Juptner too.....

Just to show I'm not stuck in a 20's/30's timewarp, here's something a bit more recent. Quite cute. (the plane, I'm talking about...)

 

[wout]

Hi Mike
That is Ophelia Bums (the plane I am talking about). The FAA register knows her as the Turner T-40 (N115ET) by Eugene Turner who first showed her to the world in 1961.
Ophelia was later modified into a 2-seater and that version (the plane again) became farther popular among homebuilders.

 

[lefty]

That's the one, Walter - with one slight reservation. I know we have had some designation issues recently, but I think this wee flivver was Ophelia Bumps, with a 'p' rather than your version !

Over to the Flatlands-

(did some research - Ophelia Bumps was apparently an early 1900's cartoon character....)

 

[wout]

Thanks Mike, just old enough to learn
A somewhat unusual pusher as next challenge

 

[pomme homme]

I, for one, am glad of that clarification. I was about to ask Walter if he was pulling our collective legs in saying that the aeroplane was called 'Ophelia Bums'. I put a name like that in the same category as someone saying that they wish 'to explore the dark side of Uranus'!

 

[lefty]

Our resident twin-boom specialist is maintaining a discreet silence here.....

The only twin-boomers with inverted vee tail empennage that I can find are both German (Akaflieg Stuttgart FS-28 and LO 120S) , so am I correct in assuming this one is too ?

 

[wout]

Hi Mike
Sorry, but your assumption is not correct, Please let that not ruin your day, there are so many drinks we can fall back on.
She is European though, 1970s and had a VW1700 engine.

 

[Moses03]

I had the location and decade correct but then the trail went cold. Not that it was ever hot!