The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[lefty]

Wrong country, Carlo...

 

[Baragouin]

Wrong country, Carlo...

I'll try again with a Svenska Aero SA12 (SK8)….
Carlo

 

[Baragouin]

My last try Vickers Type 178 Mk.III Valpa raiso built in Portugal with Gnome-Rhone Jupiter engine
Cheers
Carlo

After all the scruffy gang looks awfully portuguese!

 

[pomme homme]

I have to say that I found myself thinking Spanish Civil War republicans - which, if so, would open a veritable Pandora's Box when one has regard to the aeroplanes which they used!

 

[lefty]

I'm going to give this to Carlo for sheer persistence, also because he at least got the manufacturer right !

Those gentlemen are Bolivian, and it's a Vickers Vespa, of which they had four, I think.

Over from a wet Fife to, I imagine, a slightly sunnier Tuscany...

 

[Baragouin]

I'm going to give this to Carlo for sheer persistence, also because he at least got the manufacturer right !

Those gentlemen are Bolivian, and it's a Vickers Vespa, of which they had four, I think.

Over from a wet Fife to, I imagine, a slightly sunnier Tuscany...

Thanks for your benevolence Lefty...however it's getting late here and I'll revert Tomorrow morning with a new mystery….thanks!
Cheers
Carlo

 

[Baragouin]

As promised I'm submitting a nice, clean and easy biplane….
Cheers
Carlo

https://imgur.com/a/eH4Hypj

 

[pomme homme]

Is that a Pander Type E?

 

[Baragouin]

Is that a Pander Type E?

Yes Mike it is exactly Pander EC11 (PH-AEX)….your turn please
Cheers
Carlo

 

[pomme homme]

Thank you, Carlo. Initially I took myself on a wild goose chase, convinced that it was a German akaflieg aeroplane. Then I noticed that it was a sesquiplane, rather than a biplane, which led me to Pander.

Now here's another picture with both aeronautical and automotive interest .....

 

[giruXX]

It's the Carley C.12

I found it via Mummert -> Holland H.2 -> Carley light monoplane

 

[pomme homme]

I have it as the NVI Carley C.1 Baby of 1922. But having regard to how confused is the aeronautical nomenclature of this period (even allowing for the fact that this one is Dutch rather than French!), I think it highly probable that it also was known as Carley C.12. So over to you, Uli.

p.s. I've no idea what the car is - but hopefully not a Carleycar!

 

[giruXX]

It’s indeed confusing; here is a list of all Carley’s, etc. https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=26065.0

I wouldn’t be able to distinguish between “Baby”, C.I and C.12
And here is the trailer photo in better resolution: http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/law1/carleyc12/carleyc12-11.jpg

 

[giruXX]

and here comes a contemporary which, to my knowledge, isn’t another Carley:

 

[pomme homme]

And here is the trailer photo in better resolution: http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/law1...rleyc12-11.jpg

Thank you, Uli. That's a much better image. Now I can see where the wing is, how it is being transported and how the aeroplane is being towed. I can just imagine the policeman flagging that combination down, and the explanation that Joop Carley might have given, as it was en route to the aerodrome!

 

[Moses03]

Foreground is the RAE Hurricane with the ANEC I in the back.

Both part of the 1923 Lympne light aircraft trials.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lympne_light_aircraft_trials#1923

 

[giruXX]

that's the perfect answer

 

[Moses03]

Thanks. Here is a similar design which came later.

 

[Moses03]

A one-off fitted with a 45hp Anzani radial.

 

[Moses03]

It's listed at Aerofiles but under the registration only. Odd that.

There was a later version with a windscreen and wheel pants. Circa 1931 Oklahoma.