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The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.
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fabulousfour
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Far from being a one-off, at least in its version with wheels... 
fabulousfour
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It is the Hydro-Copter! 
Awaiting the next mystery from Texas, please.
Awaiting the next mystery from Texas, please.
pomme homme
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It looks to be at the Paris Salon.
It was exhibited at the 1912 Salon. Photos are elusive!
It featured a 70hp Gnome buried in the fuselage with chain drives to the props. The hole at the front was for cooling purposes.
The designer had several builds prior to this including one sold to the military. There was also a floater in the line.
It featured a 70hp Gnome buried in the fuselage with chain drives to the props. The hole at the front was for cooling purposes.
The designer had several builds prior to this including one sold to the military. There was also a floater in the line.
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Is it the Savary aeroplane (as opposed to the Savary biplane, also exhibited at the 1912 Paris Salon) - which The Aeroplane describes as not quite knowing whether it's a biplane or a monoplane? I'm going by description as I've failed to find a picture of it.
It is the Savary Mike!
With no official designation we can call it the Savary Sesquiplan. It seems it was put on display for the last day of the 1912 Salon. I can't find any record of it beyond the exhibition. As his previous designs were all successful, you would think this one was as well, at least on some level. Maybe too many novel features?
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With no official designation we can call it the Savary Sesquiplan. It seems it was put on display for the last day of the 1912 Salon. I can't find any record of it beyond the exhibition. As his previous designs were all successful, you would think this one was as well, at least on some level. Maybe too many novel features?Over to France-
pomme homme
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I'm afraid that I've nothing on the stocks at present - so if anyone would care to step into the breach, please do.
pomme homme
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In the absence of anyone else stepping up to the plate, here's a small biplane that I have recorded under an obscure name but it just may be something else slightly better known. Whilst leaving it with you, in the absence of an identification in the meantime, I'll try to research it further when I return home later today.
pomme homme
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I am satisfied that this it not 'something else slightly better known' and is the aeroplane 'under an obscure name'. I thought that it might be the former which, post-war, was remodelled and re-engined. But as the person who acquired that aeroplane was the author of the article which includes the photograph that I've used, in which he doesn't say something along the lines of 'c'est mon avion', that seems improbable. However it seems that the designer of the aeroplane illustrated was not such 'an obscure name' as originally I thought. The name appears again - it is sufficiently uncommon that although I can't trace the forename, I'm reasonably confident that it's one and the same gentleman - in a more modern aeroplane that achieved a small production run and came close to licence production in Canada.
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The designer of the biplane appears to have been part of the post-war circle of those interested in autoplans and microplans which included Dr Barret de Nazaris, Léon Lacroix, Gérard Trussant, Raymond Bourdin and his collaborator in the series of 1960s avions de tourisme mentioned in the previous post. This collaborator was also one of the smaller commercial manufacturers of Jodel D-112s in the fifties and sixties.
pomme homme
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No, Walter, but you're on the right track. It's the other half of Gazelle partnership at which you should be looking!
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Yes, that's it, Walter. I had only the photograph and not the technical detail. So thank you for that.
It seems that in addition to being described as the Gazuit Microplan, it also known as the Gazuit GG.01 (q.v. le Trait d'Union).
I'm interested that you ask about the connection between Georges Gazuit's microplan and the LT-51. The possibility that these were one and the same is the reason for my remarks in my posts of yesterday. But as the article which featured the photograph of the Gazuit Microplan was written by Dr Barret de Nazaris and he purchased the remodelled and re-engined LT-51 after the war, without any mention being made therein of these being one and the same aeroplane, I assumed, rightly or wrongly, that these were two different aeroplanes. Furthermore, the LT-51 carried the registration mark F-WFKQ and the photographs of this show an aeroplane differing significantly (engine nacelle, interplane struts, undercarriage, fin and rudder) from that of Georges Gazuit.
And finally - for the sake of completeness - the late 1960s avion de tourisme, that came close to licence production in Canada, was the Gazuit-Valladeau GV-103 Gazelle.
Now over to the Netherlands.
It seems that in addition to being described as the Gazuit Microplan, it also known as the Gazuit GG.01 (q.v. le Trait d'Union).
I'm interested that you ask about the connection between Georges Gazuit's microplan and the LT-51. The possibility that these were one and the same is the reason for my remarks in my posts of yesterday. But as the article which featured the photograph of the Gazuit Microplan was written by Dr Barret de Nazaris and he purchased the remodelled and re-engined LT-51 after the war, without any mention being made therein of these being one and the same aeroplane, I assumed, rightly or wrongly, that these were two different aeroplanes. Furthermore, the LT-51 carried the registration mark F-WFKQ and the photographs of this show an aeroplane differing significantly (engine nacelle, interplane struts, undercarriage, fin and rudder) from that of Georges Gazuit.
And finally - for the sake of completeness - the late 1960s avion de tourisme, that came close to licence production in Canada, was the Gazuit-Valladeau GV-103 Gazelle.
Now over to the Netherlands.