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The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

Since nobody else is biting, I'll have a go at a Heinkel HD35 masquerading as the Sk 4 of the Flygvapnet :sweden:
 
Thanks, BG.

Here's a trimotor being pushed back into the hangar by some chaps who have obviously discovered that it might fly better if it had some propellers.....
 
Argh! This one is really bothering me. I would have thought Bloch like BG did but it just does not look familiar at all.

Back to the archives...
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Edit: Can't find a photo to confirm but could this possibly be the Bernard 161?

"The second prototype, designated Bernard 161 flew in July 1932, powered by three 300 hp Lorraine Algol 9-cylinder radials. Its engines had short chord cowlings; it was 75 kg (165 lb) heavier than the first prototype but otherwise had the same specifications, including performance."
 
Great detective work, Kevin ! :icon29: As far as I know that is the only photo of the Bernard 161 - the machine in the background is the 160. Over to Texas.
 
Thanks Mike. That is a real rarity. Never seen a photo until now! No wonder the one in the background was unfamiliar as well. Great stuff.:applause:

This one is not safe with Walter lurking about...

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I think we should all be indebted to Lefty for the great photo of the very rare Bernards 160 and 161. BTW is it possible to edit an undoctored pic?:applause:
BG
 
Here's the 160 (one of the pics was spread over 2 pages of the excellent Les Avions Bernard by Jean Liron)

Not quite sure what you mean about undoctored pictures, BG - I only removed a small bit of lettering from the tail of the 161. I can send you a better , unreduced scan if you like to send me your address in a PM.


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Re Moses' challenge - yes, that's Wout country !
 
The Debonair airframe made it a good start. Pretty sure the pic is not of the PD249 but it certainly could be the earlier development/test aircraft with pre-existing Beech paint scheme

The model D33 was an S35 Bonanza modified for evaluation as a light attack aircraft for the US Air Force. Tests were held at Eglin AFB in the Summer of 1965. The aircraft had three hardpoints for external stores (bombs, rockets, miniguns, etc.) under each wing. Evaluations were also conducted with the D33 for other roles such as Forward Air Control, Psy Ops, and parachute drops for which a large rear door was installed on the right side. The trademark V-tail of the Bonanza was changed to the conventional straight tail of the Beech Debonair.


An improved version of the D33, evaluated at Eglin AFB, was the PD249 (70-7859), an ordnance delivery aircraft powered by a Continental GTSIO 520 engine which developed 350 HP, and which was fitted with six wing pylons. The USAF designation for the aircraft was YAU-22A (Y, prototype; A, attack; U, utility). The PD.249 was rejected for the light Close Support role.

References seem to be at their confused best and often coupled to incorrect (later) pics but then that's pretty normal on the internet
 
Semi-AWOL. Back in time to deliver this grainy item.. plus-fours and a parasol.. nice, huh?

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RE: the previous one- from what I can 'noodle' the one in your pic was the "D33" which is a Beech model number (and it certainly has the 'lighter' cowl of the 225/250HP engine). Then they got a contract for the second evaluation a/c which was dubbed the PD249 but went to Elgin AFB as the YUA-22A in mil. paint. Even though the aircraft lost the eval it went on to be developed into the Q-22 series of drone/recon aircraft which were another of those "secret" Vietnam models. Ultimately these ended up with longer a-36 fuselages and Baron wings and, on some, a large wart on the upper cowl that housed an ancillary power-takeoff drive to run the electronics
 
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