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Thoughts of Orbx PNW products (keep a civil tongue)

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This is close to locked. Even closer with statements like that last one.
Addressing members by name like that tends to get looked at by more staff than you might think. Please avoid getting personal.
 
spotlope said:
Then your complaint is with the FSX landclass system, not Orbx. We've done a lot of really great things with the toolbox we were given by MS, but there are limits.

Out of curiosity, who in your opinion does this stuff better than Orbx? That's a real question, not baiting. Knowing who your favorite scenery designers are would help me understand why you seem so frustrated with our stuff.
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I'm not frustrated at all. Although there are areas I have found to be, out of order, etc.

My favorite scenery designers, and only, Orbx. Of which I will purchase more eventually. I have high expectations of their products and very much want to see them flourish in their venture for our virtual realism experiences.
 
We value all feedback highly,

Please feel free to drop in to our support forum and file a report, the more you highlight bugs or errors to us in a logical and amicable manner, the better the likelihood that it ends up in a patch or service pack.


Cheers
Tim :)

(ORBX region dev)
 
OleBoy said:
I'm not frustrated at all. Although there are areas I have found to be, out of order, etc.

My favorite scenery designers, and only, Orbx. Of which I will purchase more eventually. I have high expectations of their products and very much want to see them flourish in their venture for our virtual realism experiences.
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Okay, so Orbx are your favorite scenery designers, so clearly we're not screwing up too badly. You want it better, but have yet to lay out anything specific you'd like to see added. There's not much we can do with that, is there?

Seems to me your best course of action would be to get your hands dirty with some scenery development. If you've got specific things you'd like to see improved and have the ability to make it happen, we'll certainly never stand in your way.
 
TimHarris said:
We value all feedback highly,

Please feel free to drop in to our support forum and file a report, the more you highlight bugs or errors to us in a logical and amicable manner, the better the likelihood that it ends up in a patch or service pack.


Cheers
Tim :)
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I have considered doing so several times. The issue is that "I" physically did not purchase Orbx PNW. I recieved it as a Christmas gift. Burned to dvd and given to me in a Christmas card this last Christmas. I do not have an order number unless I can get it from which ever one made the physical purchase. I am to the understanding without the order number(s), my opinions would be wiped off the desk. So I haven't pursued voicing my thoughts in the forum.

I have spoke to JayKae on several occasions. Though not on the subject at hand. But purchasing more of the Orbx products.
 
The FS community is glutted...that's the problem. With all these hundreds of addons it gets more and more difficult to satisfy the user. It's easier to criticize a five-star meal when you are sated...

In my opinion, Orbx is doing by far the best FSX scenery addons. And Orbx has done more for FSX and it's general acceptance by the user than any other FS addon company!

And let's face it: A FSX scenery that is a 100% correct rendition of its real counterpart simply doesn't exist!

Greetings
Tim
 
I like what they do. It really improves the default fsx and makes the flight a lot more enjoyable. On top of that their stand alone airfield really improve what they already had!

However I'd like it if they'd include a few more detailed airports within the scenery. Mainly the really small strips.
 
spotlope said:
Okay, so Orbx are your favorite scenery designers, so clearly we're not screwing up too badly. You want it better, but have yet to lay out anything specific you'd like to see added. There's not much we can do with that, is there?

Seems to me your best course of action would be to get your hands dirty with some scenery development. If you've got specific things you'd like to see improved and have the ability to make it happen, we'll certainly never stand in your way.
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See above

I know how to do repaints. Pretty crafty with graphics and whatnot. I'll help any developers if they gave me a chance and/or I had the skill or knowledge they were looking for. If it was something that was needed by a set date, that's a bit too far for my helping. I'm all for making what we have, better.


With all respect, I think the subject has ran it's course.
 
The main thing is it's affordable and makes PNW look great. If I want to see my house and my garden with me sitting in it I'll commission someone to create a few square miles of perfection and pay them £50,000 to do it...if I could possibly afford it. I fly mainly PNW because how it looks and how it looks so much better than anything else I have seen.
 
OleBoy said:
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....The scenery is nice. But, could be so much better than what it is. Beyond the airport additions that seem to be the norm..
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Hi All,

Now that is really cryptic! One of the things about improving scenery is that you have to be specific. So you have to be more specific than just wanting it "better" ... you have to tell us what is missing.

One of the great things about doing work for ORBX is how much the team engages suggestions and notes errata ... and fixes it, but you need specifics to work with.

We're always interested in threads like this one, to see what can be improved ... but I have to say that having read it I'm not a great deal the wiser, which does make me unsure quite what the initial point was.

As many of the posters here also post at FSDeveloper they are aware of the time involved with updating every airport in the region ... hence each airport doesn't have a plethora of specifically modelled objects.
EDIT: which I think is the point Roger has made very well above!

Indeed, if the scenery is a "loss-leader" as was suggested earlier, then by definition it must be EXCEPTIONAL value!

Cheers to all, and glad to hear of the many who are enjoying flying the scenery.

Ian
(ORBX Modelling / Airport Dev Team)
 
Bill Womack is based in Oregon by his bio, and Oleboy in Washington - certainly both of them have a certain familiarity with the region.

I am sure that, based on all other contributions by Mr. Womack, that accuracy and quality standards were adhered to as best as possible given the time, the investment, and the microsoft constraints he was working with.

Anytime one asks for more porridge, no matter how politely, one risks being taken at cross purposes unfortunately - and I think that's all this was.
 
heywooood said:
Bill Womack is based in Oregon by his bio, and Oleboy in Washington - certainly both of them have a certain familiarity with the region.

I am sure that, based on all other contributions by Mr. Womack, that accuracy and quality standards were adhered to as best as possible given the time, the investment, and the microsoft constraints he was working with.

Anytime one asks for more porridge, no matter how politely, one risks being taken at cross purposes unfortunately - and I think that's all this was.
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Here's the difference: "This porridge was great, could I have some more, and perhaps a little toast to go with it?" vs. "Wow, that was colder and lumpier than I expected. You really need to try harder with your porridge making". The former would have been welcomed. The latter was what I heard.
 
I'm a direct straight forward type. Misunderstood by many until they get to know me. Unfortunately, here in text, this is the way I come across most times. I can attest that my intentions and heading are true as to where I was going with the topic. I was in no way meaning, or trying to get someone on the stake. Even though that's where it was heading when others deflected the subject beyond my control. Which told me then that I should have contacted Mr. Womack via PM and exchanged comments in private. If I'd thought of "who", especially here at SOH, I had no clue the topic would get side swiped as it did. But had to continue, to keep it in line of my direction for posting in the first place. Some comments by members were not needed. Live and learn.

What did I learn? Don't post openly in the forum for others to add comment.

To sum it up. I'd like to see the scenery in general, appear more like the PNW than it does. Plain and simple. And if I can help make it happen, I'm offering what little time I have to add to my enjoyment.
 
Best way OleBoy would be to post on the ORBX forums with suggestions but their products have such a good following that some will be defensive on any flight sim forum.
I don't think much more can be said here so it's time to close it before it gets really nasty.
 
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