Unofficial Alphasim Community Forum

[Lionheart]

When did we get so mixed up in the MSFS world? Devs are a bunch of primadonnas--it ain't always bad, but sometimes it is. Jesus. I'll tiptoe around their feelings when I want them to give ME money.

what?


I bought my Rutan from them and they treated me nice. It wasnt perfect, but a real Rutan isnt either. They dont have air conditioning or gold plated knobbies. They are regular machines, and sim software isnt perfect either. Dang.....

Nothing is perfect. Well, except God. Everything else for that matter will have flaws, and a person that sees tons of flaws will be a person that looks for flaws.. A person that sees the good in things will indeed find good.

man........

 

[Francois]

Frankly, I thought THIS was already the unofficial Alphasim forum ??

 

[tigisfat]

I´ve been restraining myself from posting in this thread, but i have to disagree with you in this statement.The FACT that Alphasim Owner/Devs/Forum Masters of The Universe BELIEVE they are the ultimate t! in the entire universe, does not give the right to anyone to include the other devs in the same can of worms.I´ve met TRUE gentlemen in this biz, people who are more than willing to say "I´m sorry, i did a mistake", and ABOVE ALL, real creators, not just TWEAKERS of someone else´s work to fit a simulator platform.There, now ban me, throw me to the lions, whatever you want, but i wont accept anyone to call the rest of us devs "primma donnas" just because a bunch think they are.
BTW, is nothing personal against you tigisfat, just that i believe the generalization was totally uncalled for

Best regards
Prowler

PS: That is all i´m going to say on this subject JUST AS PROFESSIONAL COURTESY.

What exactly are you all bent outta shape about?:isadizzy:

Calling someone a primma donna isn't insulting them. Most artists are, and some would believe that's a compliment. It depends on how you look at it.

You've gone wild with my post. I never suggested that anyone wasn't a gentleman.

This is the new Alphasim forums. I just said something that disrupted the momentum of a few fanboys, and I got jumped on.

Let's get something straight: I'm a loyal customer of many developers, I appreciate their work and would love to shake a few hands (including yours), but I won't be a grovel-at-their-knees fanboy who loves to be regularly insulted by a certain maniac from New Zealand. There's a HUGE difference. Why would anyone join a discussion forum that doesn't allow negative opinions? That's not discussion, that's BUTT-KISSING.

 

[Pultacatt]

Frankly, I thought THIS was already the unofficial Alphasim forum ??

:d

Some Dev's most definitely are Prima Donna's. But then they have every right to be when one considers the work they are doing.

Other Dev's are complete and utter gentlemen and many of them we share their company here in this very forum.

How ever where I think Tigisfat's point lies is that the Prima Donna's that portray a stance of diety above all others do not deserve the right to treat mortals, those of us who purchase their wares, like something they find on the bottom of their shoes and those that do are very much in the minority. I hope I am right?

What I find interesting is that not one repaint artist, in my experience has ever been publicly rude or otherwise... What makes the difference between a Dev and a Repaint guy?

 

[S]

So many people seem to think this new place is just a copy of the old AlphaSim forums whereas it merely functions as a continuation of the community of people that were posting on the old forums on a regular base. I'm glad I am once again able to keep in touch with a few of the wonderful people that registered on those forums over the years. For me that is the main reason for joining up there and I am quite sure this was one of the main reasons why Shaggy did his stinking best to get this up as quickly as possible. One can only respect a man for that..

I am happy to see familiar names and to have a place again to chat about anything aviation. It doesn't seem to land that that place really was home to many folks, often only coming there to meet up with their online buddies again and read some nice stories while having a beer. Share interest, unwind etc. Again just as the Sim Outhouse forums are to many. Imagine this place going to hell, (like recently) wouldn't you all be very glad to see it back?

Lionheart that was beautiful. I think I need to listen to you more often. :redf: Something to put up next to the calendar in the toilet!

 

[jmig]

Frankly, I thought THIS was already the unofficial Alphasim forum ??

No Kidding!

I have not purchased any Alphasim products since the F-5E. I am certainly no longer a fan of Phil or Alphasim. For three days I have read with satisfaction and emotional pleasure the kicking, bashing and pissing on Phil and Alphasim. It seems that many of us have reason to not like Alphasim.

SOH has given us an outlet to vent our frustrations and anger. We have taken advantage of it through the Alphasim Closes Forum thread. However, gentlemen, I fear we are quickly reaching (Or have passed) the point of acting no better than the "Alphasim groupies" we consider boot lickers.

We have voiced our disapproval of Alphasim's tactics and in some cases products below expectations . I think it is time to quit kicking the dead dog.

If fans of Alphasim products want to have a forum to sign its praises, they have that right. If I don't care to participate, no one is forcing me to do so. Yes, they may have the same atmosphere and tightly controlled rules of the old forum. That too is their right.

fsafranek came here and announced the opening of the new forum. It seems to me that all we did was restart the old thread with fresh meat. I suspect that many of the members of the alphasim fan club see us as whiners, malcontents and nitpickers. I know and you know we are better than that... At least most of the time.

I think it is time we moved on to bigger and better things. Positive things.

 

[Pultacatt]

gentlemen, I fear we are quickly reaching (Or have passed) the point of acting no better than the "Alphasim groupies" we consider boot lickers.

:redf::redf::redf: Agreed :redf::redf::redf:

 

[DaveQ]

:d

What I find interesting is that not one repaint artist, in my experience has ever been publicly rude or otherwise... What makes the difference between a Dev and a Repaint guy?

I for one am just awestruck by the skills needed to put together 3D models, especially the newer FSX Alphasim ones. The other side of the coin is that we occasionally find bits of a model that don't lend themselves to other than the original textures, or, in the case of the AS Sabre, we find bits that are not accurately shaped. For that reason I think we can attract flak when we're only trying to help.

But if any of you whiney stards ever mention the fact that I've got the squadron shield in the wrong place on something........

:costumes::costumes:

DaveQ - signed up last night

PS - Oh and I did get really cross when someone said they were fed up with the Brits all moaning and weren't going to do any more Brit stuff and I was, well, a bit rude......!

 

[UKMIL]

I for one am just awestruck by the skills needed to put together 3D models, especially the newer FSX Alphasim ones.



PS - Oh and I did get really cross when someone said they were fed up with the Brits all moaning and weren't going to do any more Brit stuff and I was, well, a bit rude......!

remember, AS actually sub let the work to a third party 3D model team for MOST of their models, and they just make them work in FSX, with little or no modifications. So most of your awestruck is for NON AS peeps.

as for the British stuff, there is still plenty to be had elsewhere. IRIS are putting together what looks like a fantastic Vulcan!

 

[Bone]

Alphasim bootlickers? Fanboys? I buy from all vendors, except AFS...they suck. I like the chemistry of the group at the A.S. forum, and I have always been annoyed by Phil's bedside manner, but that didn't scare me away. The freelance Dev's are who I want to support.

Tigisfat tends to play the devils advocate on issues, which tends to piss people off. I think it's funny to watch, but there were times in the past when it got out of hand and the forum was in an uproar. AND THAT, as an example, IS WHY the rules are like they are. One could spend Eons bashing "certain" people and products, and it has the potential to get ugly and out of control. The new forum wants to avoid the negativity.

No offence intended, Tigisfat, I just put it out there like I've seen you do.

 

[S]

remember, AS actually sub let the work to a third party 3D model team for MOST of their models, and they just make them work in FSX, with little or no modifications. So most of your awestruck is for NON AS peeps.

One of the core members is Daniel Dunn. Not only is he able to create top quality 3d models from scratch, he also is a talented graphics artist able to make a 3d model come alive. Plus he is dedicated enough to fully dive into the SDK files to try and get the most out of it.

And yes I know you said 'MOST', not 'ALL'.

I'm just sad to see all the names that I expected popup here to do their monthly bit of AS dishing again. If you dislike or even hate Phil, fine, go to a shrink, talk it over, get it out of the system and move on and be done with it. It's pretty tiresome to see this happen. Or maybe my perception is just way off.

An AS fanboy suspect.

 

[SkippyBing]

I'm just sad to see all the names that I expected popup here to do their monthly bit of AS dishing again.

Similar to the feeling one used to get as the same names popped up at the AS forums to heap the latest model with unalloyed praise. Alphasim, the Marmite of flight simming.

 

[Lateral-G]

No Kidding!

I have not purchased any Alphasim products since the F-5E. I am certainly no longer a fan of Phil or Alphasim. For three days I have read with satisfaction and emotional pleasure the kicking, bashing and pissing on Phil and Alphasim. It seems that many of us have reason to not like Alphasim.

SOH has given us an outlet to vent our frustrations and anger. We have taken advantage of it through the Alphasim Closes Forum thread. However, gentlemen, I fear we are quickly reaching (Or have passed) the point of acting no better than the "Alphasim groupies" we consider boot lickers.

We have voiced our disapproval of Alphasim's tactics and in some cases products below expectations . I think it is time to quit kicking the dead dog.

If fans of Alphasim products want to have a forum to sign its praises, they have that right. If I don't care to participate, no one is forcing me to do so. Yes, they may have the same atmosphere and tightly controlled rules of the old forum. That too is their right.

fsafranek came here and announced the opening of the new forum. It seems to me that all we did was restart the old thread with fresh meat. I suspect that many of the members of the alphasim fan club see us as whiners, malcontents and nitpickers. I know and you know we are better than that... At least most of the time.

I think it is time we moved on to bigger and better things. Positive things.

well said :ernae:

-G-

 

[IanP]

Alphasim, the Marmite of flight simming.

Ian P.

 

[Bone]

Ian P.

My former wife is English, and I'm an American. The first time I had Marmite she shoved a dollop in my mouth and I almost puked. "AAARRG, What the F#ck is that Sh%t". Thankfully, I don't quite get the same reaction from A.S.

 

[S]

Similar to the feeling one used to get as the same names popped up at the AS forums to heap the latest model with unalloyed praise. Alphasim, the Marmite of flight simming.

The point I was trying to make is that I had expected this place to do better, especially given all the talk about the bandwagon jumping over at AS. I really like this place but I guess some replies in this thread got me slightly confused about those feelings. Though I have to add that this of course only applies to a few.

And eye for an eye should never be something you consider when it comes to a hobby, well if that's what you suggested with that post anyways. It's not a friggin' war where you're supposed to shoot people through the head in self defense.

 

[noddy]

Well the long and the short of it, if you don't like alphasim don't buy their models!

What could be simpler?

 

[michael davies]

The point I was trying to make is that I had expected this place to do better, especially given all the talk about the bandwagon jumping over at AS. I really like this place but I guess some replies in this thread got me slightly confused about those feelings. Though I have to add that this of course only applies to a few.

And eye for an eye should never be something you consider when it comes to a hobby, well if that's what you suggested with that post anyways. It's not a friggin' war where you're supposed to shoot people through the head in self defense.

Erik,

I think the point here is that some folks here feel they've been bad done by AS, whether they have or not is not for this dialogue, they still feel like that, now some folks haven't.

Unfortunately whats happening here is that the key people these arguments need to be addressed with are not present, nor is there any other way to publicly address their issues, thus innocents like yourself are going to get pilloried because you now appear as the spokes person for AS.

I went through this for years, actually for several years most folks here thought I was 'Mr' Alphasim, simply because I was the only one posting in forums.

Your not being beaten because its your fault, your being beaten by association which isn't fair but it is whats happening, that is the problem I mentioned last night, the new forum has Alphasim in its name and rightly or wrongly that makes it fair game for those who feel wronged by AS over the years.

Once again the key people who can resolve or sooth all this are absent, it pains me to see innocents getting whipped for their beliefs.

Best

Michael

 

[S]

I know, I know Michael. Or I think at least a part of me knows and usually I am really good at just ignoring threads and have everyone have their own opinion. But somehow I think something got triggered and I just want to defend all those good guys I've met over at the AS forums over the years. I hate it when I feel a whole group gets generalized you see.

Well I guess you know how it feels indeed trying to defend the good points hehe. I guess I should just let go.

I need a Yoga class, Rheiki maybe hehe. And English lessons, I always feel like I can only express myself so so in English. :redf:

I will try to let go! Thanks for taking the time to reply Michael! It's appreciated! :ernae:

 

[jmig]

...I need a Yoga class, Rheiki maybe hehe. And English lessons, I always feel like I can only express myself so so in English. :redf:

I will try to let go! Thanks for taking the time to reply Michael! It's appreciated! :ernae:

Eric, I would have never known English wasn't your first language from your posts.