-
There seems to be an uptick in Political comments in recent months. Those of us who are long time members of the site know that Political and Religious content has been banned for years. Nothing has changed. Please leave all political and religious comments out of the forums.
If you recently joined the forums you were not presented with this restriction in the terms of service. This was due to a conversion error when we went from vBulletin to Xenforo. We have updated our terms of service to reflect these corrections.
Please note any post refering to a politician will be considered political even if it is intended to be humor. Our experience is these topics have a way of dividing the forums and causing deep resentment among members. It is a poison to the community. We appreciate compliance with the rules.
The Staff of SOH
Unsuccesful conversion
- Thread starter kelticheart
- Start date
kelticheart
Charter Member
More progress
Hi everybody!
Some more pictures showing the results of this amazing teamwork that I am enjoying beyond measure!
With the above, I hope Manuele will be happy that the gauges for this conversion project are not translated Allied instruments. There's only one gauge that it's not converted and it's the airspeed gauge, from Morten's Luftwaffe collection. Chalachew included a converted airspeed Italian gauge in his pack, unfortunately it's for MVG3d's Fiat CR.42, its top speed is only 450 kmh, nearly the cruising speed of a C.205. I wrote Chalachew asking him if he could convert the C.205 airspeed gauge, up to 750/800kmh, as well for this project.
But Manuele, you will have to allow me a couple of stock gauges, albeit translated in Italian, because there's nothing else to replace them with.
They are the stock F4F magnetos, Master Switch and throttle panel for propeller pitch and manual mixture controls. I won't use CFS1 Bf109 throttle panel, since CFS1 throttles never worked in CFS2 for me. If anyone has a working Italian magneto switch, I'll be happy to use it instead of the stock one.
Both gauge libraries sent to me by Beepee and Chalachew will be included in the pack, so that you will have fun going back to your Italian airplane fleet and change all the translated gauges with historical ones. DO NOT WORRY! I'll make sure to provide a scheme where all gauge functions are thoroughly explained.
Until next update,
Cheers!
KH
Hi everybody!
Some more pictures showing the results of this amazing teamwork that I am enjoying beyond measure!
- Thanks to Dvslats' contribution, Manuele's Veltro now sits correctly on the ground and endures rough terrains both during takoffs and landings.
- I adjusted IS4G's original C.205 damage profile to show properly placed muzzle flashes.
- This is the result of the combination between Beepee's 2d panel/converted gauges with Chalachew's converted gauges. Both Beepee and Chalachew did an amazing job in converting MVG3d's original FS9 Italian WWII gauges to CFS2. I added something of mine, for easing the tasks of any CFS2 combat pilot. We all need popup panel icons to control the engine, take a peek at the flight map, control all inboard/drop fuel tanks individually and separately as they did in real life, finally being able to grab and follow an NDB signal to return home after combat. Positively neither GPS nor modern avionic instruments here, only ADF as it was during WWII. To be exact, I shouldn't even add an ADF popup to an Italian aircraft, but flying combat in CFS2 is difficult enough, so some allowances compared to strict history must be accepted.
- Same as above, this time VC panel.
- My addition of a good rearview in 2d panel mode, in order to check "one's six" at all times. Activated by the joystick hat switch pulled back, it's placed where a rearview mirror would have been. It's an extension of mine to the rearview mirror concept found in Merlin66's YAS Spitfire series, proper credits will be given in the upload pack. Another allowance for a Regia Aeronautica/ANR's aircraft.
- Finally, a backup 2d panel done with Alphasim's Veltro bmp. Even if Beepee's 2d panel is the real McCoy, some might like the better forward visibility offered by it.
With the above, I hope Manuele will be happy that the gauges for this conversion project are not translated Allied instruments. There's only one gauge that it's not converted and it's the airspeed gauge, from Morten's Luftwaffe collection. Chalachew included a converted airspeed Italian gauge in his pack, unfortunately it's for MVG3d's Fiat CR.42, its top speed is only 450 kmh, nearly the cruising speed of a C.205. I wrote Chalachew asking him if he could convert the C.205 airspeed gauge, up to 750/800kmh, as well for this project.
But Manuele, you will have to allow me a couple of stock gauges, albeit translated in Italian, because there's nothing else to replace them with.
They are the stock F4F magnetos, Master Switch and throttle panel for propeller pitch and manual mixture controls. I won't use CFS1 Bf109 throttle panel, since CFS1 throttles never worked in CFS2 for me. If anyone has a working Italian magneto switch, I'll be happy to use it instead of the stock one.
Both gauge libraries sent to me by Beepee and Chalachew will be included in the pack, so that you will have fun going back to your Italian airplane fleet and change all the translated gauges with historical ones. DO NOT WORRY! I'll make sure to provide a scheme where all gauge functions are thoroughly explained.
Until next update,
Cheers!
KH
Attachments
kelticheart
Charter Member
Update #3
Hi everybody!
I am almost done with 2d and VC panels.
The first shot shows the 2d panel with all popups I talked about activated. I made copies of existing gauges, translated and/or corrected them. All compass and directional gyros now have the correct lettering for an Italian gauge, clockwise:
Lower left popup shows the engine controls window, with translated stock F4F throttle panel/magneto switch/master switch, trim gauges and MVG3d's converted oil temperature gauge. This window will allow you manual mixture and propeller pitch controls, startup, trimming and a quick engine turnoff in case of emergency belly landings via MAPE prop feathering/magneto turnoff gauge. Turning off engine, contacts and fuel before touchdown helps avoiding engine fire and blowups!
Lower right popup: fuel management window with a converted MVG3d's C.205 total fuel gauge and a translated stock CFS1 Bf109 fuel quantity, which shows the selected fuel tank quantity. MAPE fuel switches for: Centrale (Central tank), Sinistro (Left tank), Destro (Right tank), Tutti (All tanks), Chiuso (Off). I still have to translate the Refuel/Dump gauge, I'll do it over the weekend.
Upper right popup: ADF window, with corrected/translated directional gyro, ADF gauge, AP panel, NDB frequency selector. The notes icon allows you to open the aircraft notes window during flight. Aircraft notes is a simple text file, normally present in each aircraft root folder. If you edit the text file, adding a list of all your installed airport NDB frequencies for the theatre you are flying in, you will be able to read the NDB code for the airport you want to reach and enter it in the selector gauge. Then follow the indication of the ADF gauge to fly home. This is my method of instrumental navigation in CFS2.
I also added working ammo counters on top of the historical ones, shown in central lower panel, by the sides of the control stick. If you look carefully at the first shot they are visible.
I replaced the magnetic compass to the left of the gunsight, it has a better Italian look than the previous one.
The next shot shows the same compass replaced in the VC.
Truckin on!
Cheers!
KH
Hi everybody!
I am almost done with 2d and VC panels.
The first shot shows the 2d panel with all popups I talked about activated. I made copies of existing gauges, translated and/or corrected them. All compass and directional gyros now have the correct lettering for an Italian gauge, clockwise:
- N for "Nord" (North)
- E for "Est" (East)
- S for "Sud" (South)
- O for "Ovest" (West)
Lower left popup shows the engine controls window, with translated stock F4F throttle panel/magneto switch/master switch, trim gauges and MVG3d's converted oil temperature gauge. This window will allow you manual mixture and propeller pitch controls, startup, trimming and a quick engine turnoff in case of emergency belly landings via MAPE prop feathering/magneto turnoff gauge. Turning off engine, contacts and fuel before touchdown helps avoiding engine fire and blowups!
Lower right popup: fuel management window with a converted MVG3d's C.205 total fuel gauge and a translated stock CFS1 Bf109 fuel quantity, which shows the selected fuel tank quantity. MAPE fuel switches for: Centrale (Central tank), Sinistro (Left tank), Destro (Right tank), Tutti (All tanks), Chiuso (Off). I still have to translate the Refuel/Dump gauge, I'll do it over the weekend.
Upper right popup: ADF window, with corrected/translated directional gyro, ADF gauge, AP panel, NDB frequency selector. The notes icon allows you to open the aircraft notes window during flight. Aircraft notes is a simple text file, normally present in each aircraft root folder. If you edit the text file, adding a list of all your installed airport NDB frequencies for the theatre you are flying in, you will be able to read the NDB code for the airport you want to reach and enter it in the selector gauge. Then follow the indication of the ADF gauge to fly home. This is my method of instrumental navigation in CFS2.
I also added working ammo counters on top of the historical ones, shown in central lower panel, by the sides of the control stick. If you look carefully at the first shot they are visible.
I replaced the magnetic compass to the left of the gunsight, it has a better Italian look than the previous one.
The next shot shows the same compass replaced in the VC.
Truckin on!
Cheers!
KH
Attachments
Last edited:
kelticheart
Charter Member
A nice headache
Thank you Alpha_1!
I refined that compass a tad more over the w-end, producing a "clean" version without the external frame. Now it fits both panels real snug and looks very realistic.
I am still trying to figure out how to convert Manuele's original 700 kmh speedometer. The one shown in the pictures above is a Luftwaffe gauge, cleaned by Morton. Replacing the bitmap behind is not a problem, as I did in all of the gauges shown above.
The real problem is that in the Luftwaffe gauge the needle starting point is in the lower left quadrant, while in the Italian is in the upper left quadrant. A nice headache.
Cheers!
KH
Beautiful Panels, m'Man!
Thank you Alpha_1!
I refined that compass a tad more over the w-end, producing a "clean" version without the external frame. Now it fits both panels real snug and looks very realistic.
I am still trying to figure out how to convert Manuele's original 700 kmh speedometer. The one shown in the pictures above is a Luftwaffe gauge, cleaned by Morton. Replacing the bitmap behind is not a problem, as I did in all of the gauges shown above.
The real problem is that in the Luftwaffe gauge the needle starting point is in the lower left quadrant, while in the Italian is in the upper left quadrant. A nice headache.
Cheers!
KH
kelticheart
Charter Member
Another WIP update
Hi gents!
The creation of an historically accurate 2d+VC panel is taking longer than expected but I am getting there. I am still trying to shoot for a Dec, 24th upload goal. Beepee and Chalachew came to the rescue, with more accurate Italian gauge conversions and now we have a working ASI. I am still looking for an Italian Attitude gauge, the one below is not it.
Courtesy of Manuele Villa himself, I could rely on the images attached below to get to the new Veltro 2d+VC panel. I also modified Beepee's bitmap slightly because Veltros never had a dual oil pressure gauge on the lower hand side panel. I have still to figure out how to delete it out of the VC as well.
The B/W pictures come from original Regia Aeronautica WWII pilot's handbooks and ground crew's maintenance manuals, among some of the rarest aviation military publications from Italy that one can think of!
As you can see from the last diagram, my latest panel work, I am also working on a specific instruction sheet about Italian metric gauges with proper conversions.
Until next one,
Cheers!
KH
Hi gents!
The creation of an historically accurate 2d+VC panel is taking longer than expected but I am getting there. I am still trying to shoot for a Dec, 24th upload goal. Beepee and Chalachew came to the rescue, with more accurate Italian gauge conversions and now we have a working ASI. I am still looking for an Italian Attitude gauge, the one below is not it.
Courtesy of Manuele Villa himself, I could rely on the images attached below to get to the new Veltro 2d+VC panel. I also modified Beepee's bitmap slightly because Veltros never had a dual oil pressure gauge on the lower hand side panel. I have still to figure out how to delete it out of the VC as well.
The B/W pictures come from original Regia Aeronautica WWII pilot's handbooks and ground crew's maintenance manuals, among some of the rarest aviation military publications from Italy that one can think of!
As you can see from the last diagram, my latest panel work, I am also working on a specific instruction sheet about Italian metric gauges with proper conversions.
Until next one,
Cheers!
KH
Attachments
Looking Great, KH!
I'd toast to you with some Italian Chianti or Sangiovese but we only have beer emoticons.......
I'd toast to you with some Italian Chianti or Sangiovese but we only have beer emoticons.......