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fliger747 said:
Do I have some memory that this was a Michael Davies project, in addition to the other Essex class he was working on a number of years ago? There was a static angle deck Essex for FS9, Willie would remember which one it was.

T
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I do have Michael's Essex put away in payware carrier aircraft folders just simply not to loose it because it is so well done , it works using AIcarriers , out right was just superb .


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I use sketchup to create my Royal Navy carriers...animation is a problem but all are moving and have decks you can land on (I can't release the Invincible class for general use yet I have used a texture created by another developer and am waiting on permission to include it in my models)

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There's been a few people volunteering to update the Oriskany for FSX, but if nothing comes to fruition I could update, add a hard deck and get it moving. Or I could look at another Essex class...won't be as good as a GMax/Studio Max version with all the whistles and bells but would do in the absence of anything else.
 
fliger747 said:
Do I have some memory that this was a Michael Davies project, in addition to the other Essex class he was wworking on a number of years ago? There was a static angle deck Essex for FS9, Willie would remember which one it was.

T
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Hi Tom,

I think you're referring to these FSX models, released as beta? http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links_search.php

Though not quite finished, they certainly fulfill my WWII / Korean War era needs very nicely.

Regarding this 27C class boat - I would be ECSTATIC! OK, the Flying Stations/SDB/Fernandez/RFN boats are truly in a very special class of their own insofar as quality is concerned .... but still, from the WIP shots, esp GP's Ark boats, there seems to be a quality level currently available that would certainly make this worthwhile to us naval junkies. I'm all for it!

Cheers,

DL
 
gp183601 said:
I use sketchup to create my Royal Navy carriers...animation is a problem but all are moving and have decks you can land on (I can't release the Invincible class for general use yet I have used a texture created by another developer and am waiting on permission to include it in my models)

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There's been a few people volunteering to update the Oriskany for FSX, but if nothing comes to fruition I could update, add a hard deck and get it moving. Or I could look at another Essex class...won't be as good as a GMax/Studio Max version with all the whistles and bells but would do in the absence of anything else.
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Really beautiful shots. Please, get the permission soon: yours is a great job and she is a pretty ship.
 
gp183601 said:
I use sketchup to create my Royal Navy carriers...animation is a problem but all are moving and have decks you can land on (I can't release the Invincible class for general use yet I have used a texture created by another developer and am waiting on permission to include it in my models)

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There's been a few people volunteering to update the Oriskany for FSX, but if nothing comes to fruition I could update, add a hard deck and get it moving. Or I could look at another Essex class...won't be as good as a GMax/Studio Max version with all the whistles and bells but would do in the absence of anything else.
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Yes please.
 
Of course only Michael could answer the question, but I do have some vague memory that he was working on Qriskany and the like, which was never to the point that the Leyte etc got. I do use those for testing and development of WWII and Korean era naval aircraft, even did some of the original arrested landings of the STOOF series on Leyte.

T
 
sketchup conversion is easy for the model.a variety of methods exist. once exported to 3ds they can be imported into gmax or 3dsmax easy .
stripping colored materials and replacing with maps and uv mapping them is the time consuming part, having to create maps from scratch using the uv layouts.
. animations would require isolating the polys and elements and then animating
- a hard deck and hangar deck takes only a few minutes- make a rectangle and attach a platform attribute and dont forget nocrash as well for the rest of the model
- export as a mdl and it can be pilotable or ai using some basic files - librarycreator can turn it into a bgl for those wishing scenery

then theres the greebling and detailing that can fussed over until you have burned out on the whole project, but thats another story...
 
sepp666 said:
I hope that the Russian Carrier Kiev could get finished too? Look: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?33114-Kiev-MiG-25-Kikka

Regards
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I've got a Kiev class sitting on my hard drive - completed and textured. However it's not optimised for FSX so its a massive frame rate hog. I need to look at cutting down the details to make it a little more "user friendly" - though other than heli ops (or unless there is a Yak-38 model out there) not sure how interested peops would be in it.

It's also waaaaaay down the list of my priorities as I need to finish the Invincible class (redo the textures if permission does not come through, update and test Invincible 1982 variant with Sea Dart launcher)...I got distracted with the UKMIL GR9 and Just flight FRS Mk1

:)

I also need to finish my QE class, get started again on CVA-01 (a little project for myself), go to work, have time with the kids, get time to actually fly something instead of building things yadda yadda...i'm sure you all have the same.

No one seems to have picked up doing something with the Mighty 'O' so i'll start on it tonight. It'll be an 'austere' mod as i'm more into Royal Navy ships than US...unless it takes an F-4 then I can be persuaded.

:)

I'll do a basic texture update, harden the deck, stick some static A-4s on it and get it moving in the water...maybe add attachpoints for arrestor gear, catapult ....then i'll zip it up for people to test (I don't use ai carriers so someone else can check that).

It won't be great, or accurate but it'll be quick to do and give folks something to use. Most of the stuff I produce is for my own benefit where there's a missing model or scenery object i'd like in my FSX world - hence its normally not to the same standard as other model developers as it's only for my needs, and i'm usually not interested in giving something away i've spent long hours on only to have "rivet counters" who feel the need to criticize freeware models bemoan what's not right about it. My belief is if you don't like something that someone else has sweated hours developing and given away for free - do it yourself and stop moaning....that's why I create my own stuff
:)

G
 
Sounds good. Hope you'll consider releasing the CVA-01 at some stage, had been planing on tackling it myself after I'm done with the Collosus/Majestic class.

Craig
 
gp183601 said:
I've got a Kiev class sitting on my hard drive - completed and textured. However it's not optimised for FSX so its a massive frame rate hog. I need to look at cutting down the details to make it a little more "user friendly" - though other than heli ops (or unless there is a Yak-38 model out there) not sure how interested peops would be in it.
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These are nice news for me, i like to have that Kiev! Because of the interresting Story that the Kiev got - today it's a hotel at China --> Look at the pictures on this site:http://www.ftd.de/luxus/reise/:flug...r-militaerfreaks/60092262.html?imgId=60092265 ...

It´s on german but maybe google gives a good translation - http://www.realfictionfilme.de/filme/auf-allen-meeren/index.php
This is a very nice TV-Doku about the end of the soviet area and the end of a ship and what happend to the people which were on this ship.

Could you please show some screenshots of it.

Regards Sepp
 
Slowly getting there. Flight deck has been re textured, working on some textures for the island. Travelling again with work next week so probably a few days before I get to work on the model again. I'll try and post some pictures at the end of the week.

As for the Kiev i'll post some screenshots of that too later this week.

G
 
Just an FYI it's not dead...just slow going. Been working on trying to create a new set of flight deck textures for HMS Invincible so Mighty 'O' has been on the back burner. Re-texturing at the moment, added a platform through MCX and have tested the model in FSX. Still have some rogue materials on the flight deck causing crashes on deck so removing them to have a smooth platform to land on....also some issues around the position of the attachpoints for arrestor gear and catapults but i'll sort that once i've finished updating the model.

Looking for comments on the colour as i'm only going with images i've found on google...too blue?

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Sooo glad Mark Harper has released Kiev and I don't have to continue with that model....it's was becoming an exercise in frustration!!
 
Looking very nice indeed :cool: , as for the colour it might be a little to blue by compare to the photos i have here , i would have thought it would be very much the same measure grey used on the all US Naval ships , many photo's show different tones of grey - that would due to the print and the light and the time of day .


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For standard USN "Haze Gray" a shade using the RGB values of 120, 127 and 135 looks just about right, on my monitor at least. In real life the paint weathers out to a lighter shade. Here's a little color chip I worked up just to put my two cents in.
 
Thanks for the tips guys, I'll update the textures and post some new pictures. Anyone got some decent pictures of the flight deck? I.e the Alaskan highways on the port side?
 
I do have photos of every Essex class from the book Aircraft Carriers of the US Navy but detail would difficult to interpret , i wonder about the Intrepid in NY , maybe could information from the museum ?
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Intrepid is quite weathered now. The haze grey is probably a bit less blue, and in outdoor light, at sea, somewhat less dark. I do remember being aboard Oriskany sometime in the mid 60's for a very brief underway period.

Keep up the great work! T
 
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