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Warbirdsim Mustangs For FSX!
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It looks to be top of the line, ain't no doubt about that:ernae:
As promised some screenshots.
Again i must add that i enjoy flying this plane!
First shot shows the Mustang as it appears in the preview window of FSX... This is due to the protection system, there is a way to see the bird in full but you must click here and there everytime you select a Mustang... For that reason this protection system does not feel right to me... Why as an honest buyer do i have to be penalized in such a way? Some might say it's no big deal but if it goes on like this next time i'll want to fly i'll have to call someone to book some flying hours?:isadizzy:
Anyway... to the screenshots now:
Again i must add that i enjoy flying this plane!
First shot shows the Mustang as it appears in the preview window of FSX... This is due to the protection system, there is a way to see the bird in full but you must click here and there everytime you select a Mustang... For that reason this protection system does not feel right to me... Why as an honest buyer do i have to be penalized in such a way? Some might say it's no big deal but if it goes on like this next time i'll want to fly i'll have to call someone to book some flying hours?:isadizzy:
Anyway... to the screenshots now:
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Slug Flyer
Guest
$75 and the Tuskegee paint doesn't have an African-American pilot?
Just saying.
Just saying.
Okay, since it comes from you i'll probably buy it IF they provide a paintkit .
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Thank YOU HenryW, I tell you more about this fabulous warbird in the norwegian forum :ernae:
I say it`s on par with the A2A WW2 Mustang, and that is a compliment !!
I know you can`t simulate the gravity and the physical forces in FSX (which plane are YOU flying???),
but you can do very much to simulate the feelings and stimulate the imagination, and that is what I`m looking for when bying. The WBS have done an incredible good job to give this model the right feeling.
And there are no problem with frames, the flights are smooth as silk
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SpaceWeevil
SOH-CM-2024
Anyone like a quick review? So yes, obviously I bought it - end of the month, all bills paid and a few quid left. Do I have more money than sense? Not any more!
The much-discussed activation worked very smoothly and if you can follow simple instructions you’ll have no problem. I was up and flying within 10 minutes - I’ve waited longer for conventional licence codes to arrive.
The manual is very comprehensive. WBS say it's the text of the actual P51 manual and point out that contains information about some systems that aren't actually modelled due to FSX limitations. Still and all it's a fascinating read and has everything you need to get the best out of the Mustang.
First impressions are very good. The external modelling and detail are exquisite and the bundled textures are superb - in these respects it stands comparison with the very best FSX payware. From the way it sits to the way the landing gear compresses over bumps to the perfect impression of stressed skin, this looks (and sounds) so completely right.
The cockpit is very detailed and nicely functional within the limits of FSX – most of us accept that there has to be some compromise between ‘accuracy’ and what is possible in FSX. It’s very reminiscent of the A2A Mustang 'pit and while I know it’s a similar layout it’s not just that. Make no mistake this VC is very good but the textures and gauges are honestly not quite in the same league as the Classics Hangar FW190s or the Vertigo Studios Hellcat. My opinion, of course.
This P51 is enormous fun to fly but challenging to fly well and is decidedly more tricksy than the A2A P51D. It needs flying all the time with close attention to trim but is generally safe and predictable as long as you watch speed & attitude. It’s easy to overstress this slippery bird in a dive as it accelerates so quickly, and that laminar flow wing stalls as quick as winking at any speed if you’re too rough with the controls. As far as I can tell the performance & handling are spot on, by which I mean (before anyone hoots) that she seems to perform pretty closely to published data. Obviously I’ve never flown anything remotely like this in real life and equally obviously this is a computer game.
Does it have an equivalent to A2A’s Accusim? Well, the systems certainly require close attention to extract the best performance. If you follow the recommendations on MP, RPM, mixture and fuel management she soars, if not she wallows like an old cow. Engine failure does not seem to be modelled - I did my level best to blow her up, screaming around at full throttle with the shutters closed, climbing flat out and even leaving her on the runway idling. The temps got close to but never passed the red line. It seems that the consequences of not managing the systems properly are poor performance and loss of control rather than systems failure.
Leaving aside the price (which has been done to death) I think part of the problem with this Mustang is expectation. I’ve seen it grow from the beginning through Bomber 12th's posts, I’ve listened to all the hype, had a very long wait and now been asked to pay rather more that I was expecting. After all that I was expecting something really extraordinary. The Warbirdsim Mustang for FSX is not extraordinary, but it is very good indeed.
So is it worth the money? I can only decide for me. I do feel a bit silly for spending so much but the answer is yes – just about. Others, particularly the hard-boiled AccuSim men, may not be so easily convinced.
The much-discussed activation worked very smoothly and if you can follow simple instructions you’ll have no problem. I was up and flying within 10 minutes - I’ve waited longer for conventional licence codes to arrive.
The manual is very comprehensive. WBS say it's the text of the actual P51 manual and point out that contains information about some systems that aren't actually modelled due to FSX limitations. Still and all it's a fascinating read and has everything you need to get the best out of the Mustang.
First impressions are very good. The external modelling and detail are exquisite and the bundled textures are superb - in these respects it stands comparison with the very best FSX payware. From the way it sits to the way the landing gear compresses over bumps to the perfect impression of stressed skin, this looks (and sounds) so completely right.
The cockpit is very detailed and nicely functional within the limits of FSX – most of us accept that there has to be some compromise between ‘accuracy’ and what is possible in FSX. It’s very reminiscent of the A2A Mustang 'pit and while I know it’s a similar layout it’s not just that. Make no mistake this VC is very good but the textures and gauges are honestly not quite in the same league as the Classics Hangar FW190s or the Vertigo Studios Hellcat. My opinion, of course.
This P51 is enormous fun to fly but challenging to fly well and is decidedly more tricksy than the A2A P51D. It needs flying all the time with close attention to trim but is generally safe and predictable as long as you watch speed & attitude. It’s easy to overstress this slippery bird in a dive as it accelerates so quickly, and that laminar flow wing stalls as quick as winking at any speed if you’re too rough with the controls. As far as I can tell the performance & handling are spot on, by which I mean (before anyone hoots) that she seems to perform pretty closely to published data. Obviously I’ve never flown anything remotely like this in real life and equally obviously this is a computer game.
Does it have an equivalent to A2A’s Accusim? Well, the systems certainly require close attention to extract the best performance. If you follow the recommendations on MP, RPM, mixture and fuel management she soars, if not she wallows like an old cow. Engine failure does not seem to be modelled - I did my level best to blow her up, screaming around at full throttle with the shutters closed, climbing flat out and even leaving her on the runway idling. The temps got close to but never passed the red line. It seems that the consequences of not managing the systems properly are poor performance and loss of control rather than systems failure.
Leaving aside the price (which has been done to death) I think part of the problem with this Mustang is expectation. I’ve seen it grow from the beginning through Bomber 12th's posts, I’ve listened to all the hype, had a very long wait and now been asked to pay rather more that I was expecting. After all that I was expecting something really extraordinary. The Warbirdsim Mustang for FSX is not extraordinary, but it is very good indeed.
So is it worth the money? I can only decide for me. I do feel a bit silly for spending so much but the answer is yes – just about. Others, particularly the hard-boiled AccuSim men, may not be so easily convinced.
I'm sure there is no dought in anyones mind that this is a good add-on, but it's not a $75 good add-on. Well maybe for some who have lots of money to burn.
I also think the timing was a little bad with all the new add-ons this month.
I personally would have loved to have got hold of this one, but ...
Your review was good reading though. Thanks
Ben
DennyA
SOH-CM-2023
Just echoing the earlier posts... Complaining about the price goes to show the developer that there are potential sales being lost due to the pricing decision. Without that outcry, low sales might be written off as being because of piracy, choice of plane, etc.
Obviously I want these folks to be rewarded financially for their efforts. But it seems to me that sales in 4-digit ranges at $29.95 would make more money than sales in 3-digit ranges at $75.
Obviously I want these folks to be rewarded financially for their efforts. But it seems to me that sales in 4-digit ranges at $29.95 would make more money than sales in 3-digit ranges at $75.
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gajit
Guest
After seeing those screenshots I almost bought it but stopped half way though registering as i realised that I would probably have a few other products to buy in the very near future (including A2A Cub) - almost 2 for the price of one.
letsgetrowdy
Charter Member
I don't think any ones bought it yet......
can't decide if I want it or not, I mean it is a lot of money.... and A2A and justflight are doing some p-51s too....
hard situation of choices....
letsgetrowdy
Charter Member
Is there a way of dropping the tanks so that they don't show up in Fs-recorder or multiplayer just saying cos this annoys me on the A2A P-51
peter12213
FSX Acceleration!
I'm still using the fs2004 model in fsx accel and I can't see any difference at all!!
peter12213
FSX Acceleration!
I'm glad about that mate because I'm the same, I don't see any difference the fs9 cockpit looks the same, is functional, and it looks great, I'm certainly not shelling out that kind money for something thats only marginally different in my opinion!
Here some pics the prop is the only thing thats different, but from inside the VC it looks fine!
These shots were from in Accel too, I'll let you be the Judges though guys!
Theres a saying over here... Its money for old rope lol!!
Personally I do think Warbirdsim is a great company who's work is great, but if you already have this aircraft for Fs9 then its not worth getting the fsx one as you can see the only issue is the prop, if you haven't got it already though then do buy the FSX one. This is only my humble opinion though!
Here some pics the prop is the only thing thats different, but from inside the VC it looks fine!
These shots were from in Accel too, I'll let you be the Judges though guys!
Theres a saying over here... Its money for old rope lol!!
Personally I do think Warbirdsim is a great company who's work is great, but if you already have this aircraft for Fs9 then its not worth getting the fsx one as you can see the only issue is the prop, if you haven't got it already though then do buy the FSX one. This is only my humble opinion though!
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Slug Flyer
Guest
Pretty sure CWDT is a different (now defunct?) company that modeled in the FS9 days.
peter12213
FSX Acceleration!
My bad, edited!! lol I've got that many I forget who made which ones lol!
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Cerberus
Guest
Maybe you have just saved FS9 P-51 owners 75 dollars!
Does the FSX version have exterior shadows? I tried to see them in the screenshots but could not tell. If they do then that is always a nice improvement over Fs2004 models.
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