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Windows 7 Support to End

Oh and theres another reason to go with Win10. If your prepared to make a Microsoft account and link your Win10 to it theres no problem when upgrading as the OS is linked to you not the hardware.
 
The most important reason to embrace change and progress is quite simply: if you plan on using hardware that improves constantly, if you plan on using better flightsims and doing so safely: use Windows 10.

Windows 10 has it flaws, every version of Windows had them. But it is the best OS that Micro$oft has ever come up with.

The GUI isn't to your liking? Tough sh*t. Adapt and overcome. In non-military parlance: get over it. I remember the outrage when Windows XP came out. Everyone was complaining about the GUI. A year later everybody loved it.

Now can we leave our caves and look at the future of flightsim?

Priller
 
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Priller said:
The most important reason to embrace change and progress is quite simply: if you plan on using hardware that improves constantly, if you plan on using better flightsims and doing so safely: use Windows 10.

Windows 10 has it flaws, every version of Windows had them. But it is the best OS that Micro$oft has ever come up with.

The GUI isn't to your liking? Tough sh*t. Adapt and overcome. In non-military parlance: get over it. I remember the outrage when Windows XP came out. Everyone was complaining about the GUI. A year later everybody loved it.

Now can we leave our caves and look at the future of flightsim?

Priller
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Yep...the first point is right....When I built this machine....at the time it was the best money could buy....Win 7 didn't know what DDR4 was...or an M.2 drive, for that matter.... so it took a bit of work to get it happening.

The real 'flaw' with 10 was it's "marketing" to the user...whether you wanted it or not. That violated so many Consumer Laws Redmond's gonads should have been cut off. At least some people sued...and won....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Windows_10

Re XP and its GUI....wrong, a year later skinners were working overtime to get rid of the Fisher-Price look. GUI developers certainly did NOT like it. The first for them to say 'at last' was Vista...but that was a half-baked 7 released too soon and drivers were no-where to be found.

I'm not a dinosaur....the majority of my physical machines are running 10 [none of which had a painless upgrade process and 2 still refuse to complete one of the updates] ... but it is damning for Microsoft that the one I use 24/7/365 to Administer a Community of 6 million on several sites is still on 7..... and it runs FSX just fine too...;)
 
Jafo said:
Yep...the first point is right....When I built this machine....at the time it was the best money could buy....Win 7 didn't know what DDR4 was...or an M.2 drive, for that matter.... so it took a bit of work to get it happening.

The real 'flaw' with 10 was it's "marketing" to the user...whether you wanted it or not. That violated so many Consumer Laws Redmond's gonads should have been cut off. At least some people sued...and won....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Windows_10

Re XP and its GUI....wrong, a year later skinners were working overtime to get rid of the Fisher-Price look. GUI developers certainly did NOT like it. The first for them to say 'at last' was Vista...but that was a half-baked 7 released too soon and drivers were no-where to be found.

I'm not a dinosaur....the majority of my physical machines are running 10 [none of which had a painless upgrade process and 2 still refuse to complete one of the updates] ... but it is damning for Microsoft that the one I use 24/7/365 to Administer a Community of 6 million on several sites is still on 7..... and it runs FSX just fine too...;)
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I wonder... Have you ever loved a GUI other than your beloved Windows 7?

Things is: sooner or later you'll have to cave in. or move over to Linux, saying goodbye to that real dinosaur called FSX.

Priller
 
Priller said:
I wonder... Have you ever loved a GUI other than your beloved Windows 7?

Things is: sooner or later you'll have to cave in. or move over to Linux, saying goodbye to that real dinosaur called FSX.

Priller
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No...you see....that's where you are wrong.
For a VERY long time we have been providing Shell alternatives and addons for MS systems....[Stardock has had Gold Certified Partner status - back when Redmond was willing to quietly admit they needed help].

Currently we have Start10 [amongst other wares] which at least restores the GUI, so long as you accept/forget the tactics used to entice/force you to end up with 10.

I've spent years coding and painting for FSX...so won't be ditching the Dinosaur.
I've also spent years doing similar to 95/98/2000/XP/Vista/7 [oh, and Dos] which is why all of those are on VMs...
OK, so I have 8 on one too...but that's just a curiosity....like I once had a ME one too....but that was being too sad and pathetic.

First shells I played with were for Dos....you ain't lived until you've done icons in 4bit colour...;)

Edit....found a couple of old ones....2002...Litestep shell replacement for 2000 [you dump explorer.exe entirely]....

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Quote:I've spent years coding and painting for FSX...so won't be ditching the Dinosaur.

So did i.
I also spent years getting outoff my chair if i wanted to change the tv channel.
Sometimes you just have to move on or time will bite you in the butt .:mixed-smiley-010:
 
Edit: Changed my mind and don't want to really get involved in this topic. It's kinda like religion or politics, no matter what you say, you won't change people's minds.
For the record, I prefer Win 7. Enough said. lol
 
The majority of objections to the Windows 10 Start Menu seem to revolve around the tiles. You don't have to have any tiles - it's easy to get rid of them and then simply resize the empty tile space until it disappears (although I tend to pin my most used apps and folders there as small tiles). There are plenty of customisation options under Settings/Personalisation/Start. You can get a lot more useful links by just right-clicking on the Start icon instead of left-clicking. If you really need quick access to the Control Panel, put it on the desktop as an icon or pin it to the taskbar. I briefly tried a number of the Start Menu replacements but once I'd worked out how to customise the default menu I decided I quite liked it and uninstalled the replacements. The Windows 10 Start Menu is only messy if you do nothing with it. Take a look here for some customisation tips: https://www.howtogeek.com/197836/8-ways-to-customize-the-windows-10-start-menu/

There's very little that the Win 10 Start Menu can't do that the Win 7 version could (and with no more clicks in most instances).
 
It pains me to see concerns about interface and trivial things when the worries should be about performance, memory management, boot times, ssd management, efficiency of spectre/meltdown patches in regards to impact on processor performance, all of which are better on windows 10.
 
Stefano Zibell said:
.... all of which are better on windows 10.
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As is the Data-mining, and the invasive and insidious forcing of the OS 'upgrade' down the consumers' throats.

Still....could be worse....could be Apple and their solution to workers' suicides...;p


As for the GUI being trivial ...most OS users know little about the kernel or even that there is such a thing....to them Explorer.exe IS the OS.
WYSIWYG ...;)
 
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