watchdog22
Piston Broke
l hope you get to feeling better soon. Your weather forecast makes me grateful to live in sunny Queensland! We have to take long distance flights for the novelty of even seeing snow,
Cheers
Cheers
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The Staff of SOH
Operation Chastise development thread
- Thread starter Rami
- Start date
Blood_Hawk23
Charter Member
I feel your pain Rami. Atleast for the snow.
NOTE: DON'T GET THE FLU SHOTS. When you do get the flu after having the shot its always worse. Usually because its a strain that wasn't in the shot. And you are actually weaker because of the other strains. My wife is an Herbalist so I do know what I'm talking about here. If your a health active person you'll never need it. Now where your a teach they may force you, I don't know if they do or not.
Bundle up and get some rest. Hire some local kids to shovel you out. I'll be thinking of you with every shovel full. Get well.
Till Later,
John
Blood_Hawk23
Charter Member
need a little help...
Hey All,
I need some research help. i need pic of the 12,000lb HC "Blockbuster" Bomb. I have all that I can find through Google.
I need a color pic that shows the markings. are there three sets of strips or only 2 sets. I have a pic of the 8000lb "Super Cookie" showing 2 sets. I'm wondering if the 12,000lb had 2 or 3. Seeing how it was 3 4000lb cookies bolted together.
We either need a consensus or proof.
Can anyone help with this?
Till Later,
John
Hey All,
I need some research help. i need pic of the 12,000lb HC "Blockbuster" Bomb. I have all that I can find through Google.
I need a color pic that shows the markings. are there three sets of strips or only 2 sets. I have a pic of the 8000lb "Super Cookie" showing 2 sets. I'm wondering if the 12,000lb had 2 or 3. Seeing how it was 3 4000lb cookies bolted together.
We either need a consensus or proof.
Can anyone help with this?
Till Later,
John
Blood_Hawk23
Charter Member
Awesome...
That was fast.
That is the first to show anything. Thank you Allen.
The markings are on the black and white pics. They are hard to see. Probably because of the paint.
If we can get one more pic or a doc stating appearance, to confirm it. Then I'll run with the three sets.
That was fast.
That is the first to show anything. Thank you Allen.
The markings are on the black and white pics. They are hard to see. Probably because of the paint.
If we can get one more pic or a doc stating appearance, to confirm it. Then I'll run with the three sets.
Blood_Hawk23
Charter Member
Allen,
We may need a wide body. I'm not sure if they just modifed the bay doors or the Whole plane. You'll have to do the research.
Both bombs are 0.965 meters in dia. The 12000lb bomb is 4.978 meters long. The 8000lb bomb is 3.393 meters long. I'm +/-10mm either way from exact size. Hopefully that info helps. I'll have them finished soon.
Should I do LODs?
They are 465 and 425 polys, respectivly. I can probably loss 100 by optimizing. They won't be visible like the Grand Slam and Tallboy. If we don't need the LODs then I can compile them and upload them tomarrow. Other wise it might be just a bit longer.
After this I'll finish the tunnels. Then get to work on the Eaglenest. That one will be trouble.
Rami,
Are you using your ETO install for this. I want to load it all up so I can test the tunnels and the Eaglenest when they are ready.
Till Later,
John
We may need a wide body. I'm not sure if they just modifed the bay doors or the Whole plane. You'll have to do the research.
Both bombs are 0.965 meters in dia. The 12000lb bomb is 4.978 meters long. The 8000lb bomb is 3.393 meters long. I'm +/-10mm either way from exact size. Hopefully that info helps. I'll have them finished soon.
Should I do LODs?
They are 465 and 425 polys, respectivly. I can probably loss 100 by optimizing. They won't be visible like the Grand Slam and Tallboy. If we don't need the LODs then I can compile them and upload them tomarrow. Other wise it might be just a bit longer.
After this I'll finish the tunnels. Then get to work on the Eaglenest. That one will be trouble.
Rami,
Are you using your ETO install for this. I want to load it all up so I can test the tunnels and the Eaglenest when they are ready.
Till Later,
John
Even if the bombs are inside of a plane the game still renders them as if they were on the outside of the plane. You should be able to a quick LOD set up by using 5 or 6 sided cylinder and a few flat planes for the fins.
I also mailed you the updated Alpha Sim Lancaster model. It lacks a bomb bay but sould let you have a Lancaster to start mounting weapons to.
I also mailed you the updated Alpha Sim Lancaster model. It lacks a bomb bay but sould let you have a Lancaster to start mounting weapons to.
UncleTgt
SOH-CM-2025
My 2 cents, these are the a/c I think are required
Upkeep lanc (as per Alphasim lanc)
Tallboy lanc (std lanc with a bulged bay, flame suppressors removed, SABS bombsight, so larger bomb aimer domed glass)
Tallboy "Tirpitz" lanc (Tallboy lanc with upper turret removed)
Grand Slam lanc (SABS bombsight, front turret faired over, some have flame suppressors removed (but not all), paddle blade props.
Hope this helps.
The Upkeep & Grand Slam lancs are used in small-ish numbers, but the Tallboy Lancs need to be FR efficient when used in numbers (they also rode shotgun for the core Grand Slam lancs, so will be found in formation, rather than the usual loose bomber stream)
Sorry the resolutions not great on the Tallboy mod drawing, but it's the best description I've come across.
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Allen,
After testing Kings Cliffe this morning, I put the Lancaster Mk. III (Special) though her performance paces over lunch. There are some oddities I don't understand, but not related to your work.
Although your fuel load is less than the DamBusters Lanc I was using for comparison, the fuel economy in your workup was significantly better. Admittedly though, flying from Woodhall Spa to Bergen and back should be well within the Lanc's range. I still only had 38% of fuel remaining when I got to Bergen, though that is a lot better than the comparative 9% I had in the DB Lanc.
Takeoff performance and general flying characteristics were also good, and another bonus...the AI don't tip over on takeoff. You might be able to get away with toning down the performance a tad, because it's actually a little "hot." However, that's rivet-counting, as they say.
Great work so far!
Allen,
After testing Kings Cliffe this morning, I put the Lancaster Mk. III (Special) though her performance paces over lunch. There are some oddities I don't understand, but not related to your work.
Although your fuel load is less than the DamBusters Lanc I was using for comparison, the fuel economy in your workup was significantly better. Admittedly though, flying from Woodhall Spa to Bergen and back should be well within the Lanc's range. I still only had 38% of fuel remaining when I got to Bergen, though that is a lot better than the comparative 9% I had in the DB Lanc.
Takeoff performance and general flying characteristics were also good, and another bonus...the AI don't tip over on takeoff. You might be able to get away with toning down the performance a tad, because it's actually a little "hot." However, that's rivet-counting, as they say.
Great work so far!
Blood_Hawk23
Charter Member
Not sure why but the bombs are not dropping. they are just disappearing. Is the bomb trigger set right?
(Faceplam)
The DP dosn't have a bomb setting in the GUNSTATIONS. You can add them by DPED or add them by text edit of the DP. Here is the need codes
; Bomb Release
gunstation.3=3,20,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1d1*6000,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2666.66666666667
[guns.3]
gun.0=8,0,0,0,0,0,0,8
The DP dosn't have a bomb setting in the GUNSTATIONS. You can add them by DPED or add them by text edit of the DP. Here is the need codes
; Bomb Release
gunstation.3=3,20,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1d1*6000,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2666.66666666667
[guns.3]
gun.0=8,0,0,0,0,0,0,8
Blood_Hawk23
Charter Member
Ok, no prob. I didn't look... I'll add it in and start testing again.
Blood_Hawk23
Charter Member
Wow she does not like the Grand Slam. I think she could use a little lift in the flaps. once airborne she flew fine.
I have some texture alignment issues on the 1200lb HC. nothing major. I'll fix that then get some pics.
With the 2 HC or the tallboy she flies great. needs the whole runway (nearly) but once in the air she will gain speed and altitude. though its slow going.
I might have to make some AI bomb DPs. I don't think they will handle the weight.
Rami,
If you test any AIs with any of my bombs, please let me know how they do.
Other then that I think we will be all set.
I have some texture alignment issues on the 1200lb HC. nothing major. I'll fix that then get some pics.
With the 2 HC or the tallboy she flies great. needs the whole runway (nearly) but once in the air she will gain speed and altitude. though its slow going.
I might have to make some AI bomb DPs. I don't think they will handle the weight.
Rami,
If you test any AIs with any of my bombs, please let me know how they do.
Other then that I think we will be all set.
The Lancaster B Mk.III (Special) is about 2,000 lbs too heavy for the Grand Slam. Max take off weight is 72,000 lbs for a Lancaster and that was done with the Grand Slam.
The Lancaster B Mk.I (Special) that carried the Grand Slam may have a up-rated engine and new props but I can find nothing of this out side of wikipedia.
Adding flap lift will be up to Rami as any flap lift will make the AI unable to land.
The Lancaster B Mk.I (Special) that carried the Grand Slam may have a up-rated engine and new props but I can find nothing of this out side of wikipedia.
Adding flap lift will be up to Rami as any flap lift will make the AI unable to land.
kelticheart
Charter Member
I'll second that!
OH, YEAH!
The worst flu I ever had in my life occurred only that one time in the early 1990's when I succumbed to my mother, who broke my ears for weeks about the need to get a flue shot!
Ah, Italian mothers.......
Never had another flue since, just plain colds.
My best wishes for both your recovery and for the snow storm.
I am watching the news about what's going on with the weather in the US with grave and increasing concern. Things are not going great here as well, although the scale of the weather impact is nowhere near to what's happening in the US. We had floods and landslides all over the country and almost 14' of snow up in the Alps. Several avalanches already took life tolls among people living up in the mountains and the danger will be worst than ever when season temperatures will start raising.
Millions of Euros worth of weather-related damages here, not speaking of what's going on in the British Isles right now!
I only hope someone in the upper politician floors is realising that world climate changes ARE INDEED happening. Unlike what happened to one of the first scientists who predicted global warming years ago, who was fired right on the spot by the university he was working for.
I remember it, I lived near New Haven, CT at the time and it happened at Yale.....
Cheers!
KH
OH, YEAH!
The worst flu I ever had in my life occurred only that one time in the early 1990's when I succumbed to my mother, who broke my ears for weeks about the need to get a flue shot!
Ah, Italian mothers.......
Never had another flue since, just plain colds.
My best wishes for both your recovery and for the snow storm.
I am watching the news about what's going on with the weather in the US with grave and increasing concern. Things are not going great here as well, although the scale of the weather impact is nowhere near to what's happening in the US. We had floods and landslides all over the country and almost 14' of snow up in the Alps. Several avalanches already took life tolls among people living up in the mountains and the danger will be worst than ever when season temperatures will start raising.
Millions of Euros worth of weather-related damages here, not speaking of what's going on in the British Isles right now!
I only hope someone in the upper politician floors is realising that world climate changes ARE INDEED happening. Unlike what happened to one of the first scientists who predicted global warming years ago, who was fired right on the spot by the university he was working for.
I remember it, I lived near New Haven, CT at the time and it happened at Yale.....
Cheers!
KH
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Allen,
The uprated engines were the Packard-Merlin 24s or 224s. Remember, they also gutted those puppies like fish, stripping away everything they could. Guns, parts of the fuselage, you name it.
Allen,
The uprated engines were the Packard-Merlin 24s or 224s. Remember, they also gutted those puppies like fish, stripping away everything they could. Guns, parts of the fuselage, you name it.
Blood_Hawk23
Charter Member
Stripped doesn't even cover it. Basically they used the Lancaster to give the Grand Slam wings. They even took out some of the fire suppressors.
You could say that the Lancaster is proof that "necessity is the mother of all invention".
You could say that the Lancaster is proof that "necessity is the mother of all invention".