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nigel richards
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Awesome work Nigel; love the appearance of those faces. 
Motormouse
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Looking good Nigel, now, what would be really something would be if those gauges had luminescent paint for night flying, or under the instrument hood. 
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Pete
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nigel richards
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Thanks for the good words and keeping the spirits high - very much appreciated Gentlemen
Pete: No looooominous gauges on the Real AVRO, but I know what you mean.
Hmmm...so you wan't an instrument training hood, do you?
Well, we're already at the poly limit for the cowled version, but I'll gladly see what's possible on the uncowled 621 trainer variants.
But don't fret on the looominies; Uncle Nigel has provided the correct night flying lamps (just like the Real AVRO).
Pete: No looooominous gauges on the Real AVRO, but I know what you mean.
Hmmm...so you wan't an instrument training hood, do you?
Well, we're already at the poly limit for the cowled version, but I'll gladly see what's possible on the uncowled 621 trainer variants.
But don't fret on the looominies; Uncle Nigel has provided the correct night flying lamps (just like the Real AVRO).
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nigel richards
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Polish PWS-18?
Although I only have a handful of blurred photos, colour profiles and a very questionable 3-view, I was wondering whether there would be any interest in the Polish license-built and modified version of the Tutor.
The Wright J-5 Whirlwind powered PWS-18.
Quite a chunky, robust looking bird IMO, has a few more horses with a DECREASE in engine weight, too...
Always held the utmost respect and awe for Poland's couragious pilots. Could be interesting to see their trainer in sim.
Although I only have a handful of blurred photos, colour profiles and a very questionable 3-view, I was wondering whether there would be any interest in the Polish license-built and modified version of the Tutor.
The Wright J-5 Whirlwind powered PWS-18.
Quite a chunky, robust looking bird IMO, has a few more horses with a DECREASE in engine weight, too...
Always held the utmost respect and awe for Poland's couragious pilots. Could be interesting to see their trainer in sim.
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Beautiful work on the night gauge backlighting Nigel.
nigel richards
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Beautiful work on the night gauge backlighting Nigel.
That's the kind of stuff we always enjoy doing together, My Friend
Without your enlightenment, that panel would have been in gloooooom!
Wow Nigel, you really did an incredible job on these faces!
The research on these item is always interesting and surprising. I can recall an aircraft which was reasonably well documented. In the manual all the gauges where described with values and type numbers. However when I checked an un-restored wreck I came to the conclusion that quite some of the gauges had changed during the operational life. Its the same with pictures in manuals. These are often taken from a prototype, which is not always the same as the production version.
About the Polish version; Although there will definitely be people who will be delighted to fly one, I personally will stick to the UK versions.
Cheers,
Huub
The research on these item is always interesting and surprising. I can recall an aircraft which was reasonably well documented. In the manual all the gauges where described with values and type numbers. However when I checked an un-restored wreck I came to the conclusion that quite some of the gauges had changed during the operational life. Its the same with pictures in manuals. These are often taken from a prototype, which is not always the same as the production version.
About the Polish version; Although there will definitely be people who will be delighted to fly one, I personally will stick to the UK versions.
Cheers,
Huub
Motormouse
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Pete: No looooominous gauges on the Real AVRO, but I know what you mean.
Hmmm...so you wan't an instrument training hood, do you?
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Well I sometimes have masochistic tendency
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Pete
Always held the utmost respect and awe for Poland's couragious pilots. Could be interesting to see their trainer in sim.
As my paternasl grandmother might say: Proszę
nigel richards
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nigel richards
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Off to the paint shop, on to remaining AVRO variants...
Exhaust outlet setup initially had me stumped - ALL the drawings and colour profiles were WAYYYYY off the mark.
So I went back to REALLY scrutinizing those blurry old photos...
All was happily was revealed when I finally began to SEE.
Off back to my shed...
Exhaust outlet setup initially had me stumped - ALL the drawings and colour profiles were WAYYYYY off the mark.
So I went back to REALLY scrutinizing those blurry old photos...
All was happily was revealed when I finally began to SEE.
Off back to my shed...
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Exhaust outlet setup initially had me stumped - ALL the drawings and colour profiles were WAYYYYY off the mark.
So I went back to REALLY scrutinizing those blurry old photos...
All was happily was revealed when I finally began to SEE.
Off back to my shed...
Looking great Nigel and I'm looking forward to your Avro.
I know what you mean about drawings and profiles being off. And I just learned to not count on the accuracy of museum photos. I went back to those about some detail on the canopy I'm sorting out and something suddenly struck me as very odd. In the museum, the canopy sides are inset about 6 inches or so into the fuselage. But every photo I've found taken during it's operational days, it's not. I'm thinking that when it was put back together for the museum after it's '39 crash and ended up upside down in the river, the canopy was probably busted all to pieces. And whoever rebuilt it for the museum had no clue on what an aircraft canopy was supposed to look like. At least I've got a general idea of what it's supposed to look like and how the sections slide back and forth.
The 3 views are almost done now. The prop is pretty much the only thing left fo do.
nigel richards
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Thank you, Willy.
With the exception of famed draughtsmen known for their accuracy, I prefer never to put my faith in 3-views other than as a starting point.
Going with gut feeling and keen observation will usually glean a better insight into the subject and its workings.
I've always enormously enjoyed doing research and preparing technical drawings - this is just an extension of the same challenging process.
Familiarity with your subject is fundamental.
There's also the rudiments of a NEW conspiracy theory somewhere in there as well; WHO the heck has grabbed all the blasted engineering drawings!
Motormouse
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Did you leave them in Matts ouzo stash?
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Pete
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