Black Pearl Repaint for Milton's HMS Bounty

[aardvark62]

I too am actually having a problem locating the Black Pearl (sim entries copied/ pasted from post 30, folders named as needed) The Bounty is showing up fine, as in my screenshot above, but no sign of the Pearl. I have tried searching along her entire route.

Gary.

Ps. Could you please possibly provide a saved flight that puts an aircraft (any aircraft) directly in her immediate vicinity as a way of checking for her appearance in the sim?

 

[jmbiii]

Hi @jmbiii,

I will download your AI Bounty package and routes soon, just after I figure out what 'driveable' motorized boat/ship to use to follow it. I don't want to use aircraft all the time.
Thinking of Deltasim freeware, Sirocco GTX2 from here : https://deltasimstudio.com/

Two questions re your Bounty routes -
1) did you have to make some sort of BGL file (or files - if both ships at same place at same time, side by side) to use as a water starting point in Pago Pago harbour ? as I am not aware of any 'water runways etc' in that Orbx scenery.
2) in trying to wrap my head around UTC time, is it possible both the Bounty and Black Pearl may be at Pago Pago harbour at same time given the schedules ?

The Deltasim Sirocco GTX2 is a very nice freeware boat to run around in !

1. The AIBTC compiler makes boat a traffic .bgl using a Google earth .kml file made by you. The three files that make up a boat traffic .bgl can be looked at and modified after you decompile with AIBTC. There are no 'water runways'.
How to make a boat traffic .bgl with AIBTC is a subject worthy of a whole other thread. They are fun to make and satisfying once you get one figured out and the boat shows up.

2. Pago Pago on Tutuila is UTC-11 hours. Saturday 00:00 UTC is Friday 13:00 . See > https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/sst. The Black Pearl may be just coming into Pago Pago harbor as the Bounty is leaving.
Best way to find one of the boats is set your time at 00:00 UTC and go to either harbor. The pictures above are the tracks the boats follow.

 

[jmbiii]

I too am actually having a problem locating the Black Pearl (sim entries copied/ pasted from post 30, folders named as needed) The Bounty is showing up fine, as in my screenshot above, but no sign of the Pearl. I have tried searching along her entire route.

Gary.

Ps. Could you please possibly provide a saved flight that puts an aircraft (any aircraft) directly in her immediate vicinity as a way of checking for her appearance in the sim?

Gary, see item #2 in the above post.


Gray Eagle, aardvark, MZee, Dieter, and Pat. thanks for sticking with this. I'll start another thread on AIBTC. Wait 'til you see all the US Coast Guard icebreakers on the Great Lakes !

 

[aardvark62]

Hi. tried as suggested above. Set the sim to 1.00pm local time and sure enough the Bounty was just leaving Pago Pago Harbour. But still absolutely no sign of the Pearl. Anywhere!

I have the NavMap (lite) utility that displays AI shipping on the map - checked every blip on or near the Pearl's route (again) but none of them turned out to be this very elusive ship.

Is the sim entry (title=AI_Black_Pearl) definitely as it should be?

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Gary.

 

[MZee1960]

Thank-you for the clarification of the AI routing, @jmbiii. I will experiment with the times once all is installed at my end.

Now that I have the Sirocco GTX2 on board, I can start to concentrate on the AI Bounty. This freeware by Deltasim is probably the nicest model I've come across and is perfect to follow the AI craft. I only had to do a couple of things after install to improve performance and speed (patch is provided by Deltasim on their site).... After all, there's no point of having these beautiful AI models if you have no way to follow them, right ?

Here she is waiting for the AI Bounty and Black Pearl to show up at Pago Pago harbour :

 

[jmbiii]

Hi. tried as suggested above. Set the sim to 1.00pm local time and sure enough the Bounty was just leaving Pago Pago Harbour. But still absolutely no sign of the Pearl. Anywhere!

I have the NavMap (lite) utility that displays AI shipping on the map - checked every blip on or near the Pearl's route (again) but none of them turned out to be this very elusive ship.

Is the sim entry (title=AI_Black_Pearl) definitely as it should be?

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Gary.

Gary, Just got home from work. Here's the three files that were used to generate the Pago2 traffic file for the Pearl. If you have AIBTC they will generate the Pago2 traffic file. You can look at the .kml file with Google Earth see where the pearl goes.
If you have the above AICarrier file from above and it is working, then this AI boat file uses the very same model and the Pearl is somewhere on it's route around American Samoa.
It is easy to miss any boat in FSX or P3D if you're at any altitude. The Black Pearl is hard to spot . . pirates like it that way . . . the ship is smaller than most AI ships you may find in FSX/P3D. And it's black.
If you don't see the Pearl at Faleasao harbor at 00:00 UTC then check your AI HMSBounty folder and make sure you have the Pearl paint installed and in the sim.cfg properly.

 

[Ganter]

Now I see the Bounty in all her beauty!
- I didn't succeed to get the Black Pearl appear on screen. I followed instructions in posting #30 (copy&paste)
Put the corresponding numbers in [fltsim.x] instead of "x"

- Win10, P3Dv4.4

Dieter

OOOHARGHHH, Me Shipmate.

How did 'e get the Bounty to sail in P3d V4.

A Purse of gold coins if 'e let on with the secrets.

(And so on and so forth...)

 

[MrZippy]

OOOHARGHHH, Me Shipmate.

How did 'e get the Bounty to sail in P3d V4.

A Purse of gold coins if 'e let on with the secrets.

(And so on and so forth...)

Arrrrh! 'ave ye got patches over both eyes, Matey? I copied this from the download info:

P3DV4 Users: 64-bit code included - See Installation for a quick copy paste setup.

 

[jmbiii]

Arggh Master Zip,

With that purse of gold coins ye've snookered, ye should visit the Deltasim shipyards and barter for a nice new boat wot don't need no sails.
They got some fancy gray metal boats wot would make an old time pirate smile with pleasure.

Picture taken off the north shore of Tutuila @ 6:13PM local (19:13 UTC)

 

[aardvark62]

Thanks for getting back to me. This is all a bit of a mystery. I don't use AI Carriers or AIBTC, just relying on pre-made traffic files. I do use FSTramp Free (not NavMap - my mistake) that displays all AI shipping in my area. This allows me to locate even the tiniest of AI vessels (see screenshot):

and is how I easily found the Bounty. But for the life of me, I still can't find the Pearl! It is just not showing as an AI vessel, and I've searched the entire length of the Black Pearl route. I have checked, double checked and checked again my sim entries and folder names and everything seems to be as it should.
Not something to lose sleep over, just a mystery - but thanks for trying.

Regards, Gary.

 

[jmbiii]

Thanks for getting back to me. This is all a bit of a mystery. I don't use AI Carriers or AIBTC, just relying on pre-made traffic files. I do use FSTramp Free (not NavMap - my mistake) that displays all AI shipping in my area. This allows me to locate even the tiniest of AI vessels (see screenshot):

and is how I easily found the Bounty. But for the life of me, I still can't find the Pearl! It is just not showing as an AI vessel, and I've searched the entire length of the Black Pearl route. I have checked, double checked and checked again my sim entries and folder names and everything seems to be as it should.
Not something to lose sleep over, just a mystery - but thanks for trying.

Regards, Gary.

Ah matey,

'tis indeed something to ponder. (I've 'ad my portion of rum this evening, p'haps a wee too much)

I waited in Pago Pago harbor and the Black Pearl arrived and anchored around 7:50 pm local time ('twas very dark)

'ere's the contents of me AI HMSBounty folder sim.cfg file :

[fltsim.0]
title=HMS Bounty Static No Sails
model=static
texture=

[fltsim.1]
title=HMS Bounty AI
model=sails
texture=

[fltsim.2]
title=AI_Black_Pearl
model=sails
texture=black_pearl
ui_manufacturer=Milton Shupe and friends
ui_type=A legend pirate ship

[fltsim.3]
title=AI_Black_Pearl_anchored
model=static
texture=black_pearl
ui_manufacturer=Milton Shupe and friends
ui_type=A legend pirate ship

[General]
category=Boat

[contact_points]
static_pitch=0.0 //degrees, pitch when at rest on the ground (+=Up, -=Dn)
static_cg_height=6.0 //feet, altitude of CG when at rest on the ground

[DesignSpecs]
max_speed_mph = 15
acceleration_constants = 0.5, 0.4 //Time constant (effects responsiveness), and max acceleration (Gs)
deceleration_constants = 2.0, 0.5 //Time constant (effects responsiveness), and max acceleration (Gs)
SternPosition = 0

[EFFECTS]
wake = fx_wake_m
water = fx_spray-fake


And attached is the AI traffic file once more. Perhaps a gremlin has corrupted the one of yours ? The Pago 2 traffic file is the Black Pearl.

 

[jmbiii]

By the way, has any one been below decks and been in the captain's cabin of the pilotable Black Pearl?

Look around and you may spy Captain Jack Sparrow's secret.

 

[aardvark62]

Thanks again jmbiii, but I think it's time to give up on this one!

Tried the newer Pearl traffic bgl (which claimed to be identical - so I guess my original was fine)

Added the AI_Black_Pearl_anchored entry to my sim.cfg (the only one not present)

Turned AI shipping density up to 100% (normally have it at around 20%)

Started flights at 1.00pm, 7.50pm, 6.50pm, 6.00pm ... (you get the idea...!)

And still absolutely no sign of the Black Pearl. Anywhere.

The Bounty is exactly where she should be each time.

And I know the Pearl's textures are fine because she will show when I temporarily replace her as the Bounty.


And we're a long way from the Bermuda Triangle!

Thanks again for trying. Most odd.

Gary.

 

[kdl]

Well, I'm afraid to report that I still have the problem to see the Black Pearl at any time (using Little NavMap).

- I copied the Black Pear(BP) textures in the (Bounty) texture folder. The BP appears instead of the Bounty, so the textures don't cause the problem.
I compared the 2 trafffic files by decompiling them. I don't see any typo or other error.
This is some kind of fishy.
Thanks for all your efforts!

Greetings
Dieter

 

[jmbiii]

Okay, boys, I'm not about to give up on you.
Attached are two boat traffic files - Pearl Test and Pago Test.

1. Change the name of the present traffic_Pago1.bgl to traffic_Pago1.bgl.OFF. (Important - must be done)

2. Place the two test files traffic_Pago_Test.bgl and traffic_Pearl_Test.bgl into your traffic folder.

3. Start your flight simulator - FSX or P3D.

4. Locate yourself either in Pago Pago harbor or just outside.

5. Set your time to 00:00:00 UTC

6. You should see the Bounty and the Black Pearl leaving the harbor side by side, and another Black Pearl at the mouth of the harbor.

Routes

 

[aardvark62]

Okay, that gives me everything you are also seeing:

(that's with the traffic_Pago2.bgl still in place, correct?)

Looking more hopeful!

Gary

 

[kdl]

I confirm to see the 3 ships positioned as decribed in your posting #55, but
this time the Black Pearl is just black, not textured.
Hopefully I got the correct Pearl textures.

 

[jmbiii]

Aardvark - Yep, I haven't done any thing with the Pago 2 file. If you slew over to Ofu and Tau you may find the Pearl over there also.

kdl - there's obviously a problem with your textures. You may have to download them again, but first make sure the textures are named the same in the AIBounty file.
the texture folder should be texture.black_pearl

and in the sim.cfg it should read
[fltsim.2]
title=AI_Black_Pearl
model=sails
texture=black_pearl
ui_manufacturer=Milton Shupe and friends
ui_type=A legend pirate ship

 

[kdl]

Sorry, It's all ok now like shown in posting #55!

Dieter

 

[aardvark62]

If you slew over to Ofu and Tau you may find the Pearl over there also.

Nah, no sign of her anywhere else.

Gary