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CFS2 ETO, MTO, CBI, PTO, plus CFS2 Crimson Skies project

ok after checking a lot of stuff in EAW I find out how we can fix the the models form having errors when exporting a file

seeing how the txt files are used to transport the file via obj format I guess I have two go to this site and learn how http://eaw.wikispaces.com/

or get as what you guys call a "Guru" form SimHQ to help us use their files XD seeing the major prob we have is just translating the plane I noticed some files work but other don't the come out hacked up this is a problem we need to fix other wise we can't get any of models without some major rework :p
 
Congrats Jed,
your project is really ambitious, but i can see that your skills are also great!! :icon29::icon29::icon29:What about the idea to tranfer the scenery of, for example, Il-2 to Cfs2?? can you also take a look to my work on Berlin and let me know your opinion?
Best Regards,
Gius
 
thanks yeah if their is a way to get the files form IL-2 I think it might be possible as for scenery I do have to note that Jane's WW2 fighters a lot of scenery that could be used as well also I'm planing on getting IL-2 and European Air War to get some more files to use
 
JD,

The 3D model development tool is 3DZ which Microprose wrote specifically to develop their various games including European Air War. It was done back in the day when the first version of Windows was released and the computers of the time were very limited in RAM, and graphics cards were basic. Necessarily, it had to be very frugal in the size of each model. Therefore, there was a specific number of points allowed to connect the model wireframe together. As a proprietary 3D tool, it was never compatible with any other design tools that I am aware of.

In order to make more detailed models, the community came up with work arounds techniques which included duplicating wirepoints. When you are trying to export these models to some other format, these "cheats" are likely what is messing with your results.

Please see my other response post to you in the 4 New Planes for SCW post. You should not use the EAW models without asking permission from the developer. The community is active today and most models, scenery, etc., will require you to get permission to modify or otherwise use them.
 
A model of a box in gmax has six sides and four vertices. The computer will translate this model as twelve sides and twenty four vertices. If you build a model in gmax of a box and compile it to say a bgl, when you decompile and covert back to a 3d model you will see what you call extra lines in a 3d modeling program.
converting models to dfx will always lose textures and maping. Few polygons,textures and good LODS in models for cfs2 are best. Remember it is a very old game engine and has limits.
 
@Captain Kurt

thanks for the info sorry I see your point on that well I think I found a better alternative it makes the rest look useless but I also think we need to ask permission for it IL-2 has a huge list of planes and mods that can be converted back and forth a lot more easy through OBJ it will take some time to pace them together in Gmax good thing about these models is they have multi-lod, VC, also i do have permission to use the textures form some site for now the name is hard to remember but anyway can any one tell me whats the status of IL-2 SAS site in terms of use of the files as well as ubisofts are they ok with it if not I guess the limits us a lot for now



@ Robert John
I see I'll keep that in mind then yeah I was thinking of making them fit to CFS2 standards



here is their list of planes if we can use them it will be good set of files to use they got a lot of variety of planes
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=12281.0


ok if we can't use Il-2 use them here is a a how to make a plane their way it explains multi-lod a bit better
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=357.0


if we can use Il-2 planes then we have this good as done to use I'll investigate the site for permission info then need to see if I can take them or not but chance it's most likely a not :p




ok fond their terms of use but I'm a bit confused about the part where says
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,4.0.html


If you want to post somebody else's mod:

Q: Can I post links to another topic on another forum where somebody else's mod is?
A: Yes, post that right here in the lounge.

Q: Can I post somebody else's mod myself?
A: No, unless you know the other modder and have gotten a thumbs up from them. This is not a legal thing, it is just a matter of respect.

Q: If I have taken someone else's mod and upgraded or improved it, can I post it?
A: Yes, just give proper credits.
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If you find a mod that you think was made by another modder and no correct credit is given, or you have another related problem with it, contact the original modder privatetly, and leave him to sort it out with the new modder. DO NOT take it upon yourself to make inquiries into that or make accusations in the forum to the new modder, about a mod that is not yours
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so I can use as long as i give credit? but dose that apply to people like us who want to use it for other means XD

also seems like they don't like new people to asking for help thing in their rule set :p the way they say the rules make me afraid to even bother asking for their mods XP

edit but on the other hand we do got the stock planes so we don't have to use their mods although it might make things more fun if we could use their mods anyway seeing they got a full load of well made planes mod wise :p


check this out at the posts near the meddle of the page they really improve the model a lot

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,14700.0.html


also I do note that we are trying to model the planes to the look as close to the stock models so and that dose mean reduced detail
so should we use the Stock planes for IL-2 in order to save frame fate of should we use their mods to improve the look but after


EDIT
reading Robert John words more carefully yeah I see now
I do note that their mods are better then most of ours if see what they fixed a lot flaws in the modeling of the planes so mods could used to help us seeing if just used the stock planes we have to improve something that been done before I noticed that all their have multi-lod models files and up to 5 lods are used in place, caps (witch covers the intersections of the plane) collision (form the sound of it also a internal part of the plane)

so we got a complete model that suits our needs in in every way it will be ideal to use their mods to improve our planes and have a resource base for people to make their own but I see that just to cut the work load down we should pick planes that don't have fixes in our list but I'm suggesting that we should keep library of all the models in a Gmax file just encase we need to update a model for further improvements I see that the P51D and B P-47D need multi-lod fixes we could start with those then


btw if want to convert files this name of the program is MshConvert118


Oh BTW looks like I'm gonna have to get IL-2 complete edition to get all the planes needed :p




BTW On a personal note I need to warn you guys I'm sometimes I very poor writer it's not really my English it's my bad typing skills
I usually have a problem trying to wright well seeing I'm need to type fast with one finger seeing I never learned how to type with more then one XD so sorry for this I'll try and improve my skills a bit more but my memory is quit poor another reason why but any ways sorry if some of you spell check police can't read my bad typing skills XD I get this a lot on other forums =____=#


edited
ok I decided here my plan I think we should stick to stock models for IL-2 if i can find a way to also get the scenery form IL-2
also I think that Jane's WW2 fighters all stock files could be used as well for other improvements

sadly if use any of the mods i think we need to ask for their permission right now what i want is just get the the stock files so can see what we can do with those first then ask later i think the stock files are more then enough I'll update you guys on the models I can get into Gmax
 
ok I started on the scenery for Jane's WW2F and got this stuff transported in .x files using x counter also a utility they have for exporting J3D type files witch is for scenery like this


note we could only use this for the most part for adding a cities in near Belgium

image2na.jpg

image3cs.jpg



image8fd.jpg


image10il.jpg



yeah farm animals

image9gl.jpg
image4ou.jpg





also I fond some funny stuff they add in somewhere for no reason

image7yk.jpg
image5ql.jpg



yes its' a UFO??!!!!! XD
 
ok here is the list of planes we can use form Il-2 note the one in bold are the mods and we need permission to use them yes this roster is big and far more bigger what i had earlier and has been quoted form the list on the link above



Bell47 Helicopter ------- OK, its working in 4.10
H19D Helicopter ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HRS3 Helicopter ------- OK, its working in 4.10
.
A-20C
A-20C_RKKA_E_NW (1942) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A-20C_RKKA_NW (1943) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A-20DB7 – Boston MK.II ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A-20G
A-20G_RKKA_NW (1943) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A-20G_RKKA (1943) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A-20G_RKKF (1943) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A-20Gussr (A-20G VVS, 1943) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A-20G-1 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A-20H ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A-26B ------- OK, its working in 4.10
AirCobra1 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A-24B “banshee” ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
B-17D >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-17E >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-17F >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-17G >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-24J-100-CF >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-25D-5NC
B-25D-20NC
B-25J-15NA
B-25J-22NA
B-25C_RKKA ------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-25D_RKKA ------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-25J_RKKA ------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-29 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-29-SP “Silver Plate”------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
RB-29 Recon ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Tu-4 Bull ------- OK, its working in 4.10
KB_29P ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
KongJiang1 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
B-25C-25NA >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-25G-1NA >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-25H-1NA >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-25J-1NA
BeaufighterMk21
BeaufighterMkIF ------- OK, its working in 4.10
BeaufighterMkI ] ------- OK, its working in 4.10
BeaufighterMkX ------- OK, its working in 4.10
BlenheimMkIV >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
BlenheimMkIVF ------- OK, its working in 4.10
BI-1
BI-6
BuffaloMkI
C-47 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
C-47A ------- OK, its working in 4.10
C-47B ------- OK, its working in 4.10
C-47Export
XC-47C floater
XC-47X floater
XC-47JET_Testbed
AC-47_Spooky
CW-21 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
DXXI_DK
DXXI_DU
DB-3b >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
DB-3M >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
DB-3T >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
DB-3F >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
FaireyBattle ------- OK, its working in 4.10
FM-1_GM ------- OK, its working in 4.10
FM-2_GM ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F2A-2
F4F-3
F4F-4
FM-2
F4U-1A
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F4U-4 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F4U-4B ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F4U-5 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F4U-5N ------- OK, its working in 4.10
CorsairMkI
CorsairMkII
CorsairMkIV
Curtiss F6
MartletMkI ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
MartletMkII ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
F6F-3_Early
F6F-3_Mod
F6F-5_Mod
F6F-3
F6F-5
F6F-6 ------ OK, its working in 4.10
F6C4Hawk
F6F-5N ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F8F-2 “Bearcat” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F9F2 “Panther” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
XF9F6 “Cougar” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F84G1_ThunderJet ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F84G2_ThunderJet ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F84G3_ThunderJet
F84G ThunderJet ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F84G ThunderJet Nuke ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F84F Thunderstreak ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F-86_A5 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F-86F25E ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F-86_F1 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F-86F25L ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F-86_F30 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
FokkerG1 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
FulmarMkI
G-11 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
HALIFAX_bMkIII ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkI_early with Watts 2-blade prop ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkI_Ia Trop ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkI_Ia 12lbs boost with Rotol prop
HurricaneMkI_Ia 12lbs Trop
HurricaneMkI_b ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkI_bT ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkIIa ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkIIb
HurricaneMkIIb Hurribomber
HurricaneMkIIb Trop
HurricaneMkIIb VVS Field Modded
HurricaneMkIIbB ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkIIbT ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkIIc
HurricaneMkIIcB ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkIIcT ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkIIc Hurribomber ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkIIc Trop ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkIId ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkIIbModDZZ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMk IV ------- OK, its working in 4.10

Sea Hurricane Mk Ib ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Sea Hurricane Mk IIc ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Hurricane_Ex fictional plane ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-15bis
I-15bis_Skis
I-15_m22 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-15_m25 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-153M62
I-153P
I-153_2BS ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I_153_2SHKAS_BS ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-153_fin ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-153etalon38 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
I-153etalon39 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
I-16type5 “Mosca” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-16type5_SPB
I-16type5_Skis
I-16type6
I-16type6_Skis
I-16Type10 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-16type10WC ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-16Type12 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
I-16Type17 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-16type18 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-16Type18bs ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-16type24 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-16type24_SPB ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-16Type27 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-16Type28 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-16type29 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
I-185M-71
I-185M-82A
I-250
Il-2_1940_Early
Il-2_1940_Late
Il-2_1941_Early
Il-2_1941_Late
Il-2I
Il-2M_Early
Il-2M_Late
Il-2T
Il-2I_DZZMod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Il-2T_DZZMod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Il-2_3
Il-2_M3
Il-2_1941_Late_DZZMod
Il-4 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Il-10
I-153N_Float
Lancaster (version 2) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
LaGG-3series1 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
LaGG-3series11 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
LaGG-3series4
LaGG-3series29
LaGG-3series35
LaGG-3IT
LaGG-3series66
LaGG-3RD
La-5
La-5F
La-5FN
La-7
La-73xB20
La-7R
Li-2 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Magister ------- OK, its working in 4.10
MACCHI 5 seaplane ------- OK, its working in 4.10
MACCHI 7 seaplane ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HANSA 5 seaplane ------- OK, its working in 4.10
HANSA 7 seaplane ------- OK, its working in 4.10
MBR-2-AM-34 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
MiG-3
MiG-3ud
MiG-3-2xUB
MiG-3-2xShVAK
MiG-3-AM-38
MiG-3U
MiG-9protoF-2
MiG-9FS
MiG-15(bis) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
MiG-15(bis) Late ------- OK, its working in 4.10
MiG-17 PeterD's Mig with Ranwers visualmod + Freddys cockpit - OK, its working in 4.10

MosquitoBMkIV
MosquitoFBMkVI
MosquitoFBMkXVIII ------- OK, its working in 4.10
MosquitoBMkXVI
MosquitoNFMkII
MosquitoFBMkVICC
MosquitoTRMk33 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P_11c
P_11F ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P_24b ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P_24e ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P_24f ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P_24g ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-35 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-36A-3 “Hawk” >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-36A-4 “Hawk” >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10

P-38E “Lightning” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-38F-1-LO ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-38G-5-LO ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-38G-10-LO ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-38G-15-LO ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-38H-5-LO ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-38J-10-LO ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-38J-15-LO ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-38J-25-LO ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-38L-5-LO ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-38J
P-38L
P-38L_Late
P-38M ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-38N ------- OK, its working in 4.10

P-38-DroopSnoot ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-400
P-26
P-35
P-39D1 “Airacobra”
P-39D2
P-39N1
P-39N1M ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-39Q-1
P-39Q-10
P-39Q-30 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Hawk75A-2 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Hawk75A-3 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Hawk75A-4 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Hawk75H
H75MO4 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Hawk81A-2
Kittyhawk ------- OK, its working in 4.10
KittyhawkMkIa ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-40 new wings ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-40B
P-40C
Tomahawk ------- OK, its working in 4.10
TomahawkMkIIa
TomahawkMkIIb
Kittybomber_Mk.III ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
P-40 Breco ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-40E
P-40E-M-105
P-40F ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-40L
P-40M
P-40-N
P-40K
P-40K-5 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-40L-10 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-40M-10 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-40N-1 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-40N-5 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-47B-1 3blades ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-47B15 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-47D-10
P-47D-22
P-47D-27
P-47D >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-50-A
P-51-A ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-51B
P-51B-NA
P-51B-5NA ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-51B-10NA ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-51B-10MHood ------- OK, its working in 4.10
P-51C
P-51C-NT
P-51D-5Early
P-51D-20NT
P-51D-25NA
P-51D-30NA
F-51D-30NA
P-51D-5NT
P-51D-20NA
ETF-51D_Navy ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Josse´s F51 Mod ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
F51_Cavalier ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F51_COIN
F51_Ramjet
F51_Pulsejet
Mustang_II_Tanks
Mustang_II_NoTanks
MustangIII
P-63C
P-80A
RF-80A ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F-80A_ShootingStar ------- OK, its working in 4.10
F-80_N ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
P2V5_Neptune ------- OK, its working in 4.10
PBN-1 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit) “Nomad” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
PBJ_C1
PBJ_D1
PBJ_G1
PBJ_J1
Pe-2 series1 – “Pescka”
Pe-2series84
Pe-2series110
Pe-2series359
Pe-3series1
Pe-3bis
Pe-8 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
PZL-37B “Moose” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
PZL_PuW_bombs ------- OK, its working in 4.10
R-5
R-5_skis
R-10
Skyraider_AD-4
Skyraider_A1-J
SB_2M-100A Dauntless
SB_2M-103 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
SBD-3 Dauntless
SBD-5
SeafireMkI ------- OK, its working in 4.10
SeafireMkII ------- OK, its working in 4.10
SeafireMkII4xH ------- OK, its working in 4.10
SeafireMkII45 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
SeafireMkII50 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
SeafireMkIII
SeafireFMkIII
Seafire Mk. XV
SeaFuryMkI ------- OK, its working in 4.10
SeafuryMkX ------- OK, its working in 4.10
SpitfireMkI_early
SpitfireMkI
SpitfireMkIb
SpitfireMkIIa
SpitfireMkIIb
SpitfireMkVa
SpitfireMkVb
SpitfireMkVbCAP“Schmittfire”------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
SpitfireMkVbT trop
SpitfireMkVb12lbs
SpitfireMkVb16lbs
SpitfireMkVbCLP
SpitfireMkVbLF
SpitfireMkVbLFCLP
SpitfireMkVbM4616lbs
SpitfireMkVc
SpitfireMkVcLand (Without sand scoops)
SpitfireMKVc4xHLand
SpitfireMKVc4CW
SpitfireMkVc16lbs
SpitfireMkVc4xH
SpitfireMkVIII
SpitfireMkVIIICLP
SpitfireMkIXcM61
SpitfireMkIXcM63
SpitfireMkIXc
SpitfireMkIXcCLP
SpitfireMkIXcHF
SpitfireMkIXe
SpitfireMkIXeCLP
SpitfireMkIXeHF
SpitfireMkIX25lbs
SpitfireMkIX25lbsCLP
SPITXIIearly
SpitfireMkXII
SpitfireMkXIVC
SpitfireMkLFXIVE
SpitfireMkXVIe ------- OK, its working in 4.10
SpitfireMkXVIe4 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
SpitfireMkXVIeCLP ------- OK, its working in 4.10
SpitfireMkXVIe25
SpitfireMkXVIeCLP25
Spitfire_P.R._Mk.XI
Su-2
SwordfishMkI >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Swordfish_Ex floater ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
TempestMkV
TempestFBMkII ------- OK, its working in 4.10
TyphoonMkIB ------- OK, its working in 4.10
TyphoonMkIBLate ------- OK, its working in 4.10
TempestMkV11Lbs ------- OK, its working in 4.10
TempestMkV13Lbs ------- OK, its working in 4.10
TB-3_4M-17
TB-3_4M-17_T_DZZMod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
TB-3_4M-34R_T_DZZMod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
TB-3_4M-34R
TB-3_4M-34R_SPB
TBF-1 “Avenger”
TBF-1C
TBM-1 “GM Avengers” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
TBM-3
T6_Texan
SNJ_5C
AvengerMkIII
TeXaCo ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
TeXaCo-Sea ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Tu-2S >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
U-2VS >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
U-2NB ------- OK, its working in 4.10
U-2UT ------- OK, its working in 4.10
U-2VS(SHKAS) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
U19A_Gun ------ OK, its working in 4.10
L-5_Sentinel ------- OK, its working in 4.10
L-5_Sentinel_Float ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
L-5A ------- OK, its working in 4.10
TigerMoth ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Su-26 aerobatics plane
Su-26m
Yak-1Light
Yak-1
Yak-1Bearly
Yak-1B_Early
Yak-1B
Yak-1Late
Yak-1PF
Yak-1PFLight
Yak-3
Yak-3P
Yak-3VK-107
Yak-3R
Yak-3bsf
Yak-3Km naval
Yak-7A
Yak-7B
Yak-7BPF
Yak-7UTI ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Yak-7V ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Yak-7B_late
Yak-9
Yak-9B
Yak-9D
Yak-9D-44
Yak-9DD ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Yak-9M_Early
Yak-9M
Yak-9K
Yak-9RLR_DZZMod
Yak-9T
Yak-9T-44
Yak-9T-45
Yak-9U_Early
Yak-9U_NW
Yak-9U
Yak-9UT
Yak-11 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Yak-15
Wellington-MKIII ------- OK, its working in 4.10
UTI-4 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
UTI-4B ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Trimotor ------- OK, its working in 4.10

KI-98 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
J7W1 “Shinden” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A5M4 “Claude” >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M2 “Zero”
A6M2-21
A6M2-N “Rufe”
A6M2-21_FB ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M2-21_Late ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M2-21_Late_FieldMod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M3 “Zero”
A6M3_Kamikazi
A6M3-22 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M3-32 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M3-32kai ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M3a-22ko ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M5 “Zero”
A6M5a
A6M5b
A6M5c
A6M5_Kamikazi
A6M6-53 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M7_Model62
A6M7_Model63
A6M-11 “Navy Zero” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-21 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-21RFM ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-21Late ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-21LateRFM ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-21LateFM ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-N ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-32 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-32RFM ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-32FM ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-22 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-22RFM ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-22-Ko ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-22Kai ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-52Early ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-52 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-52-Ko ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-52-Otsu ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-52-He ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-62 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-63 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
A6M-54 ------- OK, its working in 4.10

Ar-196A-3 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ar-196T-0 Navy ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Ar-234B-2 “Blitz”
Ar-234B-2NJ (Nightfighter) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ar-234C-2 (4-engines) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
B5N2 “Kate” >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
B6N2 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
B-239 “Brewster Buffalo”
AviaB534
AviaB534R ------- OK, its working in 4.10
AviaBk534Sea naval
Bf-109B-1 “Berta” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Bf-109B-2 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Bf-109C-1 “Clara” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Bf-109E-1 “Emil”
Bf-109E-1/B
Bf-109E-3 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Bf-109E-3/B
Bf-109E-4
Bf-109E-4/B
Bf-109E-4/N
Bf-109E-4 Trop
Bf-109E-7
Bf-109E-7Z
Bf-109E-7/B
Bf-109E-7/N
Bf-109E-7/N Trop
Bf-109D-1 “Dora” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Bf-109D-1Late ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Bf-109F-0 “Franz”
Bf-109F-1
Bf-109F-2
Bf-109F-2/B
Bf-109F-2 Trop
Bf-109F-2/B Trop
Bf-109F-2/U Galland
Bf-109F-3
Bf-109F-4
Bf-109F-4 1.3ata
Bf-109F-4/B
Bf-109F-4 Trop
Bf-109F-4/B Trop
Bf-109F-4/R-1
Bf-109F-4/Z
Bf-109F-4_Mistel
Bf-109F-5
Bf-109F-6
Bf-109G-1 “Gustav”
Bf-109G-2
Bf-109G-2 Trop 1.3ata
Bf-109G-3
Bf-109G-4
Bf-109G-4 Trop 1.3ata
Bf-109G-5
Bf-109G-5/AS
Bf-109G-6
Bf-109G-6_Late
Bf-109G-6AS
Bf-109G-6 trop 1.3ata
Bf-109G-6 Erla
Bf-109G-6 Tall Tail
Bf-109G-8
Bf-109G-10
Bf-109G-14 early
Bf-109G-14
Bf-109G-14/AS
Bf-109G-10C3
Bf-109G-10 Erla
Bf-109G-14
Bf-109K-4 “Kurfurst “
Bf-109K-4C3
Bf-109K-6
Bf-109K-14
Bf-109Z
Bf-109T Naval ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Avia S-199 “Mezek/Mule” ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1

Bf-110C-1 “Zerstore” ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Bf-110C-4
Bf-110C-4B
Bf-110C-7 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Bf-110D-3 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Bf-110E-1 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Bf-110F-2 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Bf-110G-2
BF-110-G4 (Nighfighter) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
BlenheimMkI
Ca.114 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
CANT1007 Alcione
CANT1007T
CantZ1007bis
CR_32 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
CR_42 “Falco”
ICR.42_Indrovolante floater
DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
DXXI_SARJA3_LATE >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
DXXI_SARJA4 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
D3A1
D3A2 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Dh-89A ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Do-217K-1
Do-217K-2
Do-335A-0 “Pfeil”
Do-335V-13
Fiat G56 “Centauro”
Fi-103_V1
Fi-103R-IV
Fi-156 “Storch” >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Criquet ------- OK, its working in 4.10
CriquetA ------- OK, its working in 4.10
CriquetS ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Fw-189A-2 “Uhu” >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Fw-190A-2 “Wurger”
Fw-190A-3 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Fw-190A-4
Fw-190A-4T
FW-190A-4_1.42ATA
Fw-190A-5
Fw-190A-5165ATA
Fw-190A-5U14
FW-190A-5_1.42ATA
FW-190A-5_1.58ATA
Fw-190A-6
Fw-190A-7
Fw-190A-7Sturm
Fw-190A-8
FW-190A-8_1.65ATA
FW-190A-9_1.65ATA
Fw-190A-9
Fw-190A-9T Navy
Fw-190A-9N ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Fw-190A-8N ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Fw-190A-7N ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Fw-190D-9early
Fw-190D-9
Fw-190D-9_Late
Fw-190D-11 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Fw190_D12R14T
Fw-190D-13 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Fw190_D13T
Fw-190D-14
Fw-190D-15
Fw-190F-1
Fw-190F-2
Fw-190F-3
Fw-190F-8
Fw-190F-8_DZZMod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Fw-190G-1
Fw-190G-2
Fw-190G-3
Fw-190G-8
Fw-190A-8Mistel
FW-200C-3U4 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
G_50
G-55
G-55-Late
G-55_ss0
G-55_ss0-Late
G56
G4M2e
G4M1_11
G4M2E “Betty” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
GladiatorMkI >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
GladiatorMkII >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Gladiator_EX floater
SeaGladiatorMkII ------- Not yet resolved
Go-229A-1 “Horten Flying wing”
Go-229NJ
Go229A-2 (3x1000 reloaded)
H8K1
He45 “pavo” ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
He51C-1 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
He-111H-2
He-111H-6
He-111H-12
He-111H-20 (with rocket accelerator)
He-111H-21
He-111P-2
He-111Z >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
He-162A-2 “Volksjager”
He-162C
He-162B
He-219 “UHU”
He-L-IIIB2 “Lerche” -------- OK, its working in 4.10
HurricaneMkI
Hs-123 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Hs-129B-2
Hs-129B-3/Wa
IAR80early ------- OK, its working in 4.10
IAR80
IAR81a
IAR80B ------- OK, its working in 4.10
IAR80C ------- OK, its working in 4.10
IAR80M ------- OK, its working in 4.10
IAR8iCnew ------- OK, its working in 4.10
IAR81c
J2M3
J2M5
J2M3_mod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
J2M5_kai ------- OK, its working in 4.10
J2M5_kai_AI ------- OK, its working in 4.10
J2M5_mod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
J8A
JunkersF13 ------ this MOD will not work in Patch 4.1
Ju-52/3mg3e >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju-52/3mg4e
Ju-52/3mg5e
Ju-87B-1 “Stuka” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju-87B-2 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju-87C “Navy” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju-87D-1 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju 87D-1 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju 87D-3 with Jumo 211J ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju 87D-5 with Jumo 211J ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju 87D-7 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju 87D-8 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju-87G-1 “Panzerknacker” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju-87G-2 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju 87R-1 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju 87R-2 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju-88A-4
Ju-88A-4_Torp
Ju-88A-17
Ju88C-6NJ Night ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju88C-6 Day ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ju-88Mistel
Ki-21-I “Sally” >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-21-II >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-27-Ko “Nate”
Ki-27-Otsu
Ki-30 “Ann”
Ki-31
Ki-43-Ia “Oscar”
Ki-43-Ib
Ki-43-Ic
Ki-43-II
Ki-43-II-Kai
Ki-43-Ia_DZZMod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-43-Ib_DZZMod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-43-Ic_DZZMod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-43-II_DZZMod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-43-II-Kai_DZZMod
Ki-43-III-Ko ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-44-II-Ko “Tojo” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-44-II-Hei ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-44-II-Otsu ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-44-II-Otsu_Late ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-46 “Dinah” – (Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-46-Otsu >>( Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-46-Otsu-Hei >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-46-Recce >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Ki-50
Ki-51
Ki-61-I-Ko “Tony”
Ki-61-I-Hei
Ki-61-I-Otsu
Ki-84-Ia “Frank”
Ki-84-Ib
Ki-84-Ic
Ki-100-I-Ko
Ki-100-I-Otsu ------- OK, its working in 4.10
L2D
MC-200series1
MC-200series3
MC-200series7
MC-200series7FB
MC-202
MC-202_III
MC-202_VII
MC-202_XII
MC-205_I
MC-205_III
Me-163B-1a “Komet” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Me-210Ca-1 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Me-210Ca-1ZSTR >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Me-262 V-3 Original prototype ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Me-262A-1 “Schwalbe”
Me-262A-1aU4
Me-262A-2ª
Me-262B-1a (2 seater) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Me-262HG-II
Me-321 “Gigant” >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
Me-323 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
MS402 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
MS406 >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
MS410 “Hornisse” >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
ME-410-A ------- OK, its working in 4.10
ME-410-B ------- OK, its working in 4.10
ME-410-D ------- OK, its working in 4.10
MS-Morko >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
MXY-7-11
N1K_Rex_SAS “Rex” ------- OK, its working in 4.10
N1K1-J “George”
N1K1-Ja >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
N1K2-Ja >>(Flyable Mod/new cockpit)------- OK, its working in 4.10
N1K2-Ja_mod ------- OK, its working in 4.10
N1K3-A ------- OK, its working in 4.10
N1K3-J ------- OK, its working in 4.10
N1K4-J ------- OK, its working in 4.10
RE-2000
RE-2002
RWD-8
RWD-10 sports plane
SM-79 “Gobbo Maleditto”
S-328
Savoia_S-21 seaplane
Ta-152C
Ta-152H-1
Ta-152H-1Mistel
Ta-183 “Huckebein” ------- OK, its working in 4.10

*ALL Aces Aircraft are made flyable >------- OK, its working in 4.10
* Durand_Yak-9T
* Safonovs_I-16_24
* Pokryshkins_MiG-3
* Pokryshkins_P-39N1
* Rechkalovs_P-39Q15
* ojedubs_La-7
* Graf_Bf-109G-6
* Hartmann_Bf-109G-6
* Hans_Rudels_Ju-87G-2
* Heppes_Bf-109G-6
* Kovacs_Bf-109G-6
* Molnar_Bf-109G-6
* Fabian_Bf-109G-10
* Nowotnys_Me-262A-1a
* Sarvanto_DXXI

Note: The following are not the real airplanes from WW1, but have similar names.
Nieupor-4 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Nieupor-17 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Sniper ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Sopwich-3p ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Fokker-E ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Simens-DII ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Simens-DV ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Fokker-D ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Pioneer1(ru) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Pioneer1(g) ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Bleriot ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Bleriot2 ------- OK, its working in 4.10
Nieu-Scout_2_MkIB
Nieu-Scout_2_MkIC
Nieu-Scout_2_MkID
Nieu-Scout_2_MkIE
Scout
Scout_S2
Scout_S3
Scout_ST
Scout_S4
Scout_S4-GER
Scout_S4-RFC
SB_Bomber_Germany
SB_Bomber_RFC
SB_Bomber_Russia
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so form the looks of it if we ask them nicly we might get a majo veriaty of planes it's hope they'll say yes to all of them
 
Hi Jed, You have noticed the different sims... Il2 , LockOn , strikefighters, Cfs2, etc etc have different pros and cons. You are not the first who has thought "hhhmmm how can I make this better?.... Maybe if I could just....."
I noticed you said
if we ask them nicly
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well there are one or two members on this forum who may be more familiar with those who should be asked, I wouldnt know who.
Some might be of the opinion that one should really learn to make the best of what each sim has to offer, if you like fast jets and guided weapons, lockon and strike fighters do that, if you like super accurate flight models its got to be Il2 if you like a sim thats easy to tinker with CFS2 is the winner. I have asked microsoft several times for CFS2 source code or permission to hack the CFS2 dll s. I have to say they were not negative, rather reluctant to reply. The source code is not available, maybe lost or locked up by a deal to sell fsx source code to some big player in the arms trade. As to h@ck1ng CFS2 modules. I have looked into one or two and theres some interesting things going on behind the scenes. How-ever a great deal can be done with CFS2 by simply learning how to manipulate the mission scripting. Mission Builder has some limitations that can be easily got round by hand editing mission files, there are also flight files that can be used to set up cool views of the action not normally accessible to those who are stuck in the GUI. Check out this by the way.
 
Plan to extend a Uires first and a some questions

BTW can I have permission to use your guys Archive for resource and info I might need to see whats needed and whats not

I think what I'm going to do is use your guys stuff and make my own planes and stuff I'll let you guys know when try the stuff i make when i do
 
just to let you now the stuff I had written before forget it I think i know what i need to do :p sorry for that


yeah some time i get like that sorry well I'm planing on making some stuff like Crimson skies, Uires, and some of my own planes to go with it other then that the Gmax resource is gonna happen just need to take my time on this i still need those IL-2 planes :p
 
Crimson Skies Porject?

ok I'm having a bit of a prob it's called lack of money XD I did want to get the IL-2 game but I don't have any money seeing I just wasted it and new graphics card in case your wondering witch one it's a GTS 450 it's a powerful big card if you ever seen it but yeah i got it and now I'm broke for now i can't even buy IL-2: 1946 witch a far more complete version of the game I could get for 4 bucks but with 5.99 shipping but I need to save some money to get it so to get back on track

I think I'll start on Crimson Skies as my project at least in this thing i can make most of the stuff it's uncharted territory for most of the SOH group :p
so any one want to help me let me know other wise I'm going solo on it =_____=#
 
Hello Jed

All the best with Crimson Skies, but don't bail out on CFS2 - still plenty to be done.

I am about to do some serious re-skinning for the Spanish Civil War upgrade and a small list of other aircraft - had to put things on hold for health reasons but I will now have a bit of time up my sleeve to do some things I have been wanting to do for a while. Once the reskins are out of the way will be doing some modelling - have some scenery objects and aircraft that I want to make.
 
battle of the bulge campaign and missions project

ok then thanks Seagull V and good luck with your projects too

BTW their is one other project I could do how for are you guys on the battle of the bulge campaign Jane's WW2 fighters completely focuses on that part of the time period it also has a mission builder and i can edit them or in this case study them so i can add more missions to our game what do you guys think?

let me get a screen shot of the map so you guys can tell me what or where this took place
wwiifightersfullmap.jpg


I also i seen yours I'm gonna DL it to see what i can add


ok just need to know if you have any of this bases and stuff to build in cites of Belgium

also I noted that this game has a really big campaign and missions it also has a mission builder so translating the the missions is some what easy I just need the planes flown in this game but seeing I'm gonna use yours for people to play it faster I just need the airplanes list a few posts back on Jane's WW2 fighters that is all

ok i just looked at yours the only base they have that sounds like part of the city in WW2F map is Bonn? or is it Bonn-Hangelar in CFS1
 
One More thing

ok i guess i need to ask Rami? for expanding the battle of the bulge campaign right?

also i found a alternative way of getting the Il-2 game now but still will be a wail before you'll get to see the planes cya guys until then
 
canceling the projects

mostly because I finally got the game by alternative means <,< >.>

I'll let you guys know when I extract the models soon and I'll update the post
 
starting to set up my project

ok after looking in to the games resource I can mostly for sure say my collection of resource is complete you name I got it or I can edit it so i can say we do now :cost1: note IL-2 1946 is the almost one of complete set of planes sets of all time it would be if we had permission with for the mods too

my plan now is to convert the P51D-20-NA yeah I'll be starting on the Allies then the Axis just one thing

I've been thinking of the skins set up and I noticed they have a good set too I like Il-2 skins set up but I also like CFS 2,3 detail maybe I could make the void skins they (I got a lot of them too) to match up the look and feel of CFS2,3 skins this dose mean CFS 2,3 skins will be obsolete

or in order to save skin :p should I convert the compatible form CFS3 skins only and then make the rest look CFS2,3-ish? just a thought
I just need to know before I get in working on this. :wiggle:
 
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