Great stuff Tom, keep em coming!
Classics Hangar Fw190 released!
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Great stuff Tom, keep em coming!
SolarEagle
Charter Member
Here's a high resolution shot if anybody wants to see it in more detail before buying. This is my favorite livery. Looks much nicer to me without any yellow.
RCAF_Gunner
Charter Member 2012
Having fun in the 190. Thanks for the new desert paint Tom. Here's a shot along with a couple others over the last couple of days. :woot:
I am thinking of purchasing the a/c and want to know how she flies! How does it compare with a/c from Realair or A2A simulation? I am not too happy with hellcat from realflight, not to knock their product but it seems like a airfile thrown together, and want to make sure the a/c is not just a beautiful model without a great air file! So far only the Spitfire and the A2A simulation airplanes fly satisfactory to me compared to real world.
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gajit
Guest
Hi -Good question. the FW190 flys and feels right - just like the Realair and comparable to the A2A Jug and definately has the edge over the hellcat.
Im sure others will back me up on this one!!
I was wondering the exact same thing.
Hopefully during the day tomorrow others will have the chance to chime in with their opinion on the flight model. Please be completely honest about it though. Flight models are the most important part of the aircraft, yet it seems that they are the weakest point of the majority of addons.
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gajit
Guest
This is an interesting vid that answers a question being asked earlier about slowing down the Fw190.
It's a real Stang but shows pretty good how our Fw190 acts, too.
Also note how the pilot uses just the rudder at low speed to roll the aircraft.
Try that with the Fw190,
should tell a bit about the quality of the FD's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK0AGh37rpg&feature=related
It's a real Stang but shows pretty good how our Fw190 acts, too.
Also note how the pilot uses just the rudder at low speed to roll the aircraft.
Try that with the Fw190,
should tell a bit about the quality of the FD's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK0AGh37rpg&feature=related
Another one you can compare to how the Fw190 acts.
The technique will work with most warbirds to keep you in control during takeoff. Notice he slowly advances the throttle to 40" and waits until hitting 50mph before increasing it to 60".
Also on the pullup you can just see a slight touch of P-Factor yawing the nose.
Also note the reduction in power for climb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubWyTc7uHpQ&feature=related
The technique will work with most warbirds to keep you in control during takeoff. Notice he slowly advances the throttle to 40" and waits until hitting 50mph before increasing it to 60".
Also on the pullup you can just see a slight touch of P-Factor yawing the nose.
Also note the reduction in power for climb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubWyTc7uHpQ&feature=related
SpaceWeevil
SOH-CM-2024
If you've read much about FW190s you'll already have an appreciation of how she should fly - fast, sensitive bordering on twitchy, responsive (especially in roll) and raring to go and kill something, including you if you take liberties. That's exactly how she does fly, quite exilharating. As for the Hellcat, she's right at the other end of the spectrum - big, heavy, rugged and stable, just the ticket for a precise approach to a tiny heaving deck. I wouldn't fancy my chances trying that in the FW190.
I like the hellcat on the way she handles on feel but the power settings and cruise charts show she is way off and cannot be flown by the book. I am wondering on the FW190 how close is it to reliable books and whats the normal cruise speed you guys get. The A2A aircraft are right on the money and are great is the FW190 the same or does she climb redicuously fast at 6000 fpm and cruise at 400 knots! Thats my question really, just like the new Iris f-14 she is beautiful but she can supercruise without afterburner which is totally incorrect but cant get to 2.00 mach. I know FSX is terrible and not a real simulator but just curious. I even been in real sims where they are off when higher in altitude but are fairly close to a/c.
RCAF_Gunner
Charter Member 2012
Spilot, I think you'll find the Fw190's flight dynamics are spot on. AvHistory are renowned for their flight models and the Fw190 flies as it should while exhibiting its own characteristics. Although I haven't done it yet, I've read in other posts that you'll even "blow" the engine if you just firewall it and don't pay attention to the published limits of the engine (which is different for each variant).
SolarEagle
Charter Member
I feel the same, about RealAir and A2A flight models being the best, and I don't even fly the Hellcat as the flight modeling on there is not to my taste at all. Like you said it feels like it was thrown together. However the flight model on the 190 is very nice, and in flight it is one of the most enjoyable I have experienced. It just feels real for that plane, like real flight.
As to the numbers I have not compared with anything, but off the top of my head I can tell you at 1.0 ata and 1500rpm it cruises at around 350-400kph at sea level with a light fuel load. The one thing I find odd is the rpm seems to have little affect on the performance, but without some numbers to compare to it's hard to say anything factual.
I would expect going from 1200 to 2500rpm would produce a large surge in power, and while I am not familiar with the torque curve, even a flat one would produce more than double the power at that rpm, though it hardly does anything for performance. So I get essentially the same speed regardless of RPM, with maybe a 50kph difference between the lowest and highest achievable rpm a 1.0 ata, though that's from observation and not any type of scientific testing.
That is because it's a automatic pitch/constant speed prop.
You have either this or that in FSX.
Watch the prop pitch on the corresponding gauge at the lower right panel doing it's work and best leave both pitch and rpm alone from user input, the plane will take care of it for you.
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vstudios
Guest
For peoples interest in our flight model, it was created by none other than Jerry Beckwith himself
You shouldn't play with the rpm or pitch at all in an Fw190.
All you need to do with it is to fly and watch your fuel. :d
SolarEagle
Charter Member
I must have missed that in the manual. lol Thanks for the correction.
After flying the accusim p-47 its crazy to have things actually taken care of for me and fewer gauges
