Hurricane91
SOH-CM-2023
That looks really good Falcon.
Eyes Front - a new Macchi MC.205 Veltro for FS9 and FSX
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That looks really good Falcon.
Looks good Falcon. Two small remarks about the Nationality markings. The markings on the wings with the two axes, should outlined with a thick black line.
The straight line along the flag on the fuselage should be at the front. The jagged sides should be top, back and bottom of the flag. (See picture of the Fiat G.55 below)
Cheers,
Huub`
The straight line along the flag on the fuselage should be at the front. The jagged sides should be top, back and bottom of the flag. (See picture of the Fiat G.55 below)
Cheers,
Huub`
mvg3d
Charter Member
Hi Friends,
For HUUB: Don't worry, with this repaint I just take a break in the '42 job, however the external model is finished, but the VC needs a lot of work......
I'm working on the '205's paintkit, the job is veeery hard, bur it proceeds......
For Falcon: The overall green camouflage was NEVER used for '205, but only for Fiat G.55 and other planes. The camouflages used for the '205 were basically two:
A) - "Standard Macchi", With dark green irregular rings on sand base with light gray bottom surfaces.
B) - "German Type", with RLM 74/75 "splinter" on upper surfaces, irregular RLM 75 patches on the fuselage's sides and RLM 76 for bottom surfaces (very similar to the German Me 109 G).
Other camouflage used (Dark Green diagonal stripes on Sand base, with Light Grey bottom surfaces) were only experimental and used only for some AC.
ATTENTION : The "Quai's" ANR insignas (dimensions, shape and position) are COMPLETELY WRONG!!!!
Here are some pictures (WIP), I also reduced the original "shining" with the Ivan Hsu's MDLC MDL Converter.....
Thanks guys, I was simply cleaning up what was already done by the author, who apparently didn't do his research. I will probably not progress any further with this as I can also tell that there are those who know tons more about the airplane than I do and anything not exactly correct will come under scrutiny. Also, it appears that there is a much more quality aircraft on the horizon so I see no need to try correct all the problems with this one.:salute:
Hurricane91
SOH-CM-2023
Hello Manuele. Your C.205 textures look great. Are you planning to do an Regia "Standard Macchi" scheme as well?
Hurricane91
SOH-CM-2023
Falcon, the thanks go to you. You have always done excellent work. Your textures on this one greatly improve the model. Please upload the C.205 textures that you have done. Thanks again.
John
I don't think so Hurricane, Manuele is obviously far more knowledgeable with this airplane than I am. Building layered paint kits is relatively simple if you have enough reference material, so for me, that's the easy part. . .the background of the various squadrons, markings variations, etc., and how that relates to the final livery should be left to an expert. . .that would be Manuele. All I did was copy what someone else did, just adding the layered rivets and panel lines, but as has already been pointed out, the general scheme and markings are incorrect, so I am stopping here.:salute:
Falcon, thanks for your efforts. They are definitely appreciated. However I think your right one paintkit will be sufficient for this model and for obvious reasons is Manuele more familiar with Italian aircrafts and camouflage schemes.
Manuele the finished part of this repaint looks brilliant (as usual). However there is enough left for you to do. I did not yet worry about the CR.42 as I know it will be worth the wait and you have given enough toys already to keep me playing for a while. But thanks for the update and the external model looks perfect already.
It seems there has been one single green/grey Ventro. According to my information the prototype MM.9487 was finished in the standard "Metropolitan camouflage scheme". However it is arguable as this was a actually a modified Folgore and not a production Veltro (Note the oil coolers were much smaller on this prototype than on the later production models).
Cheers,
Huub
Manuele the finished part of this repaint looks brilliant (as usual). However there is enough left for you to do. I did not yet worry about the CR.42 as I know it will be worth the wait and you have given enough toys already to keep me playing for a while. But thanks for the update and the external model looks perfect already.
It seems there has been one single green/grey Ventro. According to my information the prototype MM.9487 was finished in the standard "Metropolitan camouflage scheme". However it is arguable as this was a actually a modified Folgore and not a production Veltro (Note the oil coolers were much smaller on this prototype than on the later production models).
Cheers,
Huub
Hurricane91
SOH-CM-2023
Yes, and despite the difference between the prototype and production 205s, I would like to see Falcons texture as MM.9487.
The "Metro" scheme was also used on the MC205N Orione. And quite glossy too.View attachment 18305
Hurricane91
SOH-CM-2023
I am not an expert, but I have the documentation and am willing to work with you on it. Of all the C.205 schemes, the prototype is my favorite, and you are close. My offer stands.
Ok, so I couldn't leave well-enough-alone, lol. I've gone back and started a completely new livery with a sand base color and "smoke ring" camo. Don't be too concerned with the coloring right now as it seems every shot I look at of the same airplane has a slightly different appearance, so I'm looking for color swatches right now of the correct top and underside colors.
Hurricane91
SOH-CM-2023
Nope, not yet, tons of models pictured with varying degrees of "sand", lol. Not one was the same color. Whatever you have, I would greatly appreciate getting. You can e-mail me from the forum as my e-mail address is posted in my profile.:salute:
Nope, not yet, tons of models pictured with varying degrees of "sand", lol. Not one was the same color. Whatever you have, I would greatly appreciate getting. You can e-mail me at ejwells409@cableone.net :salute:
Well actually the Italians uses at least 4 different types of sand colour...... and they must have loved green as well!
http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/page-RGB-colors-Italy.html
Cheers,
Huub
Thanks Huub, now if I can just find some references that match colors to aircraft, lol. In the meantime, Hurricane has sent me some great reference material and as you can see below, it gives me a perfect template to produce a much more detailed paint kit. I just have to move the template around a bit to be sure I have the best positioning and then start laying in the panel lines.
Most likely what will happen is that by the time I get this completed and start on the first repaint, Manuele will have completed his and produced several liveries, lol. At this point I've taken the redo on just to see if it will work and maybe be an application I can use for future paint kits and repaints.
Most likely what will happen is that by the time I get this completed and start on the first repaint, Manuele will have completed his and produced several liveries, lol. At this point I've taken the redo on just to see if it will work and maybe be an application I can use for future paint kits and repaints.
Falcon, in general most Italian aircraft kept the paint scheme in which they left the factory. ln case of the Vetro most aircrafts were painted Nocciola Chiaro 4 (light hazelnut) with Grigio Azzurro Chiaro 1 (light blue-grey) under surfaces. The pattern (smoke rings) was painted in Verde Olivia Scuro 2 (dark olive green). This scheme was applied on all production Veltros until 1944. The Veltros produced after this date carried the standard German livery (as Manuele already explained).
I'm sure Manuele will correct me when I'm wrong here
Cheers,
Huub
I'm sure Manuele will correct me when I'm wrong here
Cheers,
Huub
mvg3d
Charter Member
Falcon, in general most Italian aircraft kept the paint scheme in which they left the factory. ln case of the Vetro most aircrafts were painted Nocciola Chiaro 4 (light hazelnut) with Grigio Azzurro Chiaro 1 (light blue-grey) under surfaces. The pattern (smoke rings) was painted in Verde Olivia Scuro 2 (dark olive green). This scheme was applied on all production Veltros until 1944. The Veltros produced after this date carried the standard German livery (as Manuele already explained).
I'm sure Manuele will correct me when I'm wrong here
Cheers,
Huub
Hi Huub,
Yes, You are correct.
The colours (RGB) I'm using are the following:
Regia Aeronautica:
Grigio Azzurro chiaro - R159/G160/B151
Verde Oliva Scuro - R63/G71/B45
Nocciola Chiaro - R155/G126/B72
Luftwaffe:
RLM 74 - R78/G81/B87
RLM 75 - R141/G149/B155
RLM 76 - R148/G163/B160
A note for the AerMacchi Camouflages
The Verde Oliva Scuro - Grigio Azzurro Chiaro livery was applied only on C.202(Folgore)/C.205(Veltro)/C.206(Orione) prototypes. This camouflage was used commonly on the last series of AerMacchi C.200 "Saetta".
I hope to finish with the 205's Paintkit (with two "German" liveries) during this week, after these I'll try to make one or two "classic" camouflage (with "smoke rings") liveries.......
