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OzFlightSimulations said:
Hi, Im wondering if anyone can correct a boolean procedure?

I am attempting to cut a windshield in accordance with the tutorial docs and when I cut the boolean and convert it to an editable Polygon nothing appears to happen. Perhaps someone could help me along?

Kind Regards,
Matt.
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If gmax, then happy to help. Either need screen shots of your steps or your gmax source of just the parts in question to do boolean. Select parts, then Save Selected. Zip and attach to post.

If you cannot do that, and you use gmax, I will do a video tute for you.
 
Milton Shupe said:
If gmax, then happy to help. Either need screen shots of your steps or your gmax source of just the parts in question to do boolean. Select parts, then Save Selected. Zip and attach to post.

If you cannot do that, and you use gmax, I will do a video tute for you.
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Thanks for your reply.
I will attach the GMAX file here and also include the link to the tutorial listing the steps ive taken so far.
Any help is appreciated.

Tutorial used http://www.sim-outhouse.net/tut/fs9/c162/3viewfuse3.html


Kind Regards
Matt.
 

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OzFlightSimulations said:
Thanks for your reply.
I will attach the GMAX file here and also include the link to the tutorial listing the steps ive taken so far.
Any help is appreciated.

Tutorial used http://www.sim-outhouse.net/tut/fs9/c162/3viewfuse3.html


Kind Regards
Matt.
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You have already done the boolean and it looks good. The attached shows you how to better setup the viewport options to best view your work.

Let me know if you need more help. View the attachments in numbered order.
 
VC

Perhaps I'm posting in the wrong area, I'm not too sure.
I've got a bit of a test model going at the moment. I've started to make a VC, I've got two models by the time Gmax finishes its export one is "filename" the other is "filename_interior"

When I load it into FSX, everything is good at this point however the VC eye point is too high and not far enough to the Left side of the aeroplane.
I have tried looking in the Aircraft.cfg to find the "Camera Definition" so I can tweak that, but theres nothing there controlling VC, it just controls the Right seat etc..

Has anyone else had similar issues and could provide feedback?

Thanks in advance,

Kind Regards
Matt
 
Matt,

The eyepoint in the VC is controlled by the coordinates you place in the aircraft.cfg file in teh following statement:

[Views]
eyepoint=-5.255, 0, 2.675 //Fore/aft; left/right; up/down stated in feet

In your design program find the coordinates of the pilot's nose bridge, select a vertice to get the coordinates (X,Y,Z) (convert them to feet)
then update the eyepoint statement in the aircraft.cfg in format y,X,Z
 
Milton Shupe said:
Matt,

The eyepoint in the VC is controlled by the coordinates you place in the aircraft.cfg file in teh following statement:

[Views]
eyepoint=-5.255, 0, 2.675 //Fore/aft; left/right; up/down stated in feet

In your design program find the coordinates of the pilot's nose bridge, select a vertice to get the coordinates (X,Y,Z) (convert them to feet)
then update the eyepoint statement in the aircraft.cfg in format y,X,Z
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Thanks Milton,

Another thing I noticed as well... Once I clone the "Exterior" and name it "Interior" and export..... it exports the plane fine but comes up with a duplicate animation warning.... once I load it in FSX, the prop and exit animation works in the VC but looking out the canopy the aileron and flap are motionless on both sides of the plane.... What could I have not done correctly?
 
OzFlightSimulations said:
Once I clone the "Exterior" and name it "Interior" and export..... it exports the plane fine but comes up with a duplicate animation warning.... once I load it in FSX, the prop and exit animation works in the VC but looking out the canopy the aileron and flap are motionless on both sides of the plane.... What could I have not done correctly?
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Try just renaming the top node to Interior and saving the file as modelName_interior.gmax, then export it to FSX. Cloning might not have carried over the animation tags properly. Once the interior is working properly, you can start removing unseen objects and polys from the _interior model.

Unlike FS9, the interior and exterior don't need to be in the same Gmax model: your duplicate animation warnings probably come from that. Look at the stock aircraft in the FSX Airplanes folder and you'll see two models: Beech_Baron_58.mdl and Beech_Baron_58_interior.mdl in the case of the Baron 58. The model files used in FSX are specified in aircraft.cfg. This is why a VC from another aircraft can be used with an FSX model. Some modellers don't do that, having learned their craft in FS9 and found the FS9 habits hard to break, but since you're starting from fresh it's best to do things the FSX way.

BTW, I'm a CFS3 modeller :biggrin-new:, but I'm looking to the future (by living in the past) ... if y'know what I mean. Errr...
 
hairyspin said:
Try just renaming the top node to Interior and saving the file as modelName_interior.gmax, then export it to FSX. Cloning might not have carried over the animation tags properly. Once the interior is working properly, you can start removing unseen objects and polys from the _interior model.

Unlike FS9, the interior and exterior don't need to be in the same Gmax model: your duplicate animation warnings probably come from that. Look at the stock aircraft in the FSX Airplanes folder and you'll see two models: Beech_Baron_58.mdl and Beech_Baron_58_interior.mdl in the case of the Baron 58. The model files used in FSX are specified in aircraft.cfg. This is why a VC from another aircraft can be used with an FSX model. Some modellers don't do that, having learned their craft in FS9 and found the FS9 habits hard to break, but since you're starting from fresh it's best to do things the FSX way.

BTW, I'm a CFS3 modeller :biggrin-new:, but I'm looking to the future (by living in the past) ... if y'know what I mean. Errr...
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Yeah, That's what I've done to get around it. I'm assuming it wont glitch with FSX, as there are already two models anyway one is the model the other interior so I'll see how it goes... When I saved everything as "interior" and kept the aircraft Exterior model file All the views and animations worked. Must be some GMAX glitch. If I ever find a solution, I'll post it here.

Thanks for all your help.

Happy Easter everyone.

Kind Regards,

Matt - Oz Flight Simulations, Australia.
 
It's not a workaround Matt, it's how you're supposed to do it for FSX.

In CFS3 you have:-

CoolModel
.....coolModel_LOD_100
........lots of objects for external model
.....cockpits
..........cockpit_virtual0
...............lots of VC objects
..........cockpit_virtual1
...............lots of bomb aimer's objects
etc.


In FS9 it's:-

CoolModel
.....exterior
..........external objects
.....interior
..........VC objects


but in FSX the external model and VC are completely separate models. Which .MDL files are used are specified in model.cfg, not aircraft.cfg as mentioned above.
 
hairyspin said:
It's not a workaround Matt, it's how you're supposed to do it for FSX.

In CFS3 you have:-

CoolModel
.....coolModel_LOD_100
........lots of objects for external model
.....cockpits
..........cockpit_virtual0
...............lots of VC objects
..........cockpit_virtual1
...............lots of bomb aimer's objects
etc.


In FS9 it's:-

CoolModel
.....exterior
..........external objects
.....interior
..........VC objects


but in FSX the external model and VC are completely separate models. Which .MDL files are used are specified in model.cfg, not aircraft.cfg as mentioned above.
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Thanks Tom,

For some unforseen reason - help here - Ive got my interior Fuse to show in FSX however when I add detail IE, Seats and centre console, they show up fine in Gmax, yet everything exports but the seats don't show in FSX... Doing my head in, nothing is set See Through or anything like that. If I attach the seats to the Fuse Interior, it shows up, yet if they're separated they dont show.
Anyone ran into this before ?
 
OzFlightSimulations said:
... If I attach the seats to the Fuse Interior, it shows up, yet if they're separated they dont show...
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Do you mean linked, or Attached? That's an important difference! You link objects to each other in a hierarchy; but you might build a tailfin, then select the fuselage, click Attach and click on the tailfin to make it part of the fuselage object.

If the seats are linked to the fuse interior, that would sound like where they should be.
 
hairyspin said:
CFS3 - yes. CFS1 - no; don't know what you need for that, but it isn't gmax. You'll need the CFS3 SDK from microsoft and the plug-in for gmax which you'll get at the CFS3 home site http://www.microsoft.com/games/combatfs3/
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The link you recommend is no longer active. I've also tried to get the CFS3 SDK from http://microsoftgamesinsider.com/CFSInsider/Tools/default.htm but nothing happens and it times me out. I'm assuming that to get a Gmax model into CFS3 I must have the SDK. Can you give me a working link? Thanks.


edit: the CFS3 SDKs are now in the Library here at SOH
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As Milton says and his link will point you to the SDKs and patches for CFS3. I'm at work, so will answer your other post after the kids are bunked down.
 
Milton Shupe said:
Updated links to tutorials in post #2
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... and some of the links seem to be broken again. I managed to download Calbox.zip OK but I can't open a download of basicintro.zip with either Win7's zip function or 7zip, and the VC tutorial seems to have gone walkabout ...
 
Sad to say, there are broken links there as well - the ones I found were the Gmax setup SDK and the videos associated with section 22 on texture mapping ...
 
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