Graphics settings help

Polovski said:
Good news yah maybe we should put that in the FAQ, I am sure that would make most people double take, but at low res guess the GPU these days are leaning on a lampost reading a newpaper waiting for the CPU.
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yes, I mean I did not even try to go higher when I got to 1280x1024 at 2560x1600 smooth as silk.
 
Had the same epiphany as well! After all this time too.

I set my Overrides as suggested by "doubleclick" (I believe).
and then set my resolution to highest listed (then next highest 1920 x 1440 my preference). Getting 48 to 75 FPS increase of 15 to 20 fps and spectacular scenery and textures.

Highly recommend this procedure for those new to OFF and "errant old hands" as like myself as well.

Regards,
Royce
 
Are you guys using ATI? Nothing I've tried so far has helped get me out of the 10's.I'm in an area with three airfields but that's no excuse as I need more FPS than that regardless. From what I've read, OpenGL on ATI doesn't use the ram on the video card but trundles it onto the system ram and virtual memory which explains why my performance is dependant on my hard drive as well. It appears there are no drivers for ATI HD3850 that work for OpenGL. D3d works great. ATI lost another customer to Nvidia as soon as possible.
 
James "Taffy" Jones said:
Try setting your catalyst settings to override application and then set your AA settings in there. (Make sure to first set your CFS3.config AA graphics settings to highest setting).
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Bumping in case you did not see this in my earlier post.
 
More help. Now I'm confused. Research says that ATI with direct3d works fine. ATI with opengl works crappy. My experiences bear this out. What I'm confused about, is what does CFS3 use? Is there a setting like in IL2 to switch it? I can't help but shake the feeling there's a silver bullet setting that I need to change.

Also FYi, I discovered when you change your top slider in config, the dual pass render gets reticked.
 
I am gonna work on it as well cpirrmann. I got and HD4670 and I got like 8 fps most times...
Lets try to fix this man. I dont wanna change my card now...
 
cpirrmann said:
Are you guys using ATI? Nothing I've tried so far has helped get me out of the 10's.I'm in an area with three airfields but that's no excuse as I need more FPS than that regardless. From what I've read, OpenGL on ATI doesn't use the ram on the video card but trundles it onto the system ram and virtual memory which explains why my performance is dependant on my hard drive as well. It appears there are no drivers for ATI HD3850 that work for OpenGL. D3d works great. ATI lost another customer to Nvidia as soon as possible.
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I am using Nvidia 7800GTX, increasing resolution to the max helped me tremendously.
 
cpirrmann said:
More help. Now I'm confused. Research says that ATI with direct3d works fine. ATI with opengl works crappy. My experiences bear this out. What I'm confused about, is what does CFS3 use? Is there a setting like in IL2 to switch it? I can't help but shake the feeling there's a silver bullet setting that I need to change.
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I'd be shocked and amazed to find out CFS3 can be run in Glide(or OpenGL). Pretty certain it's limited to D3D rendering, but I could be wrong. Also not so sure about ATI cards not being able to run OpenGL games with any success. Played tons of IL2 with the X1950XTX I had, and it ran slicker than a can of WD40 in either D3D or Glide. As I recall, it actually ran somewhat smoother and even looked better in OpenGL. I think the only thing I couldn't do was set the terrain details to "Perfect", whereas I could when I swapped that card out for the 8800GTX.

I don't think it's any coincidence that both you and Gousgounis are experiencing an almost identical phenomenon here. Considering you were both able to run P2 at reasonable frames and detail settings, we first have to ask ourselves this question; What's changed so drastically between P2 and BHaH in the graphics department that would cause such a noticeable performance decrease???

I can think of a couple of things, but the first thing I'd suspect is the new Hi-res terrain. The difference on my system is nothing short of visually astonishing, and yes, when I leave my sliders set the way they were for P2, there's a tangible performance hit.....particularly around airfields. Fortunately it's not significant enough to force me into lowering my settings, but my frames drop to close to half of what I was used to under certain circumstances. The fact that they were exceptionally high in P2 allows me to get away with it though.

Why the performance hit seems more severe on ATI products from the pattern we may be seeing is beyond me. It isn't uncommon for products from ATI and Nvidia to differ significantly in performance levels when it comes to specific game titles. All you have to do is look at some of the benchmark results that pit the two against eachother to realize there are game-specific advantages and disadvantages.

I'm not saying that the problem you're seeing can't be solved at the driver, low-level hardware settings, or game configuration level. That solution however, may be almost as elusive as the holy grail.

What I would recommend is a fresh install of a set of drivers you know worked well in P2. Set up your game cfg exactly the way you had it previously. Dial all filtration methods (AA-AF-Triple Buffering and all that stuff) back to Zero......run the game and see what kind of FPS you get. If you get decent frames at that point, you can then try to increase some of the filtration one method and one increment at a time. If the game runs like crap with no filtration at all engaged, try a different set of drivers or two, employing the same methodology.

If the game still runs like crap regardless of driver versions, config settings and the fact that you've sacrificed a 3-eyed,one-legged toad and his sister to the computer gaming Gods......it may just be time to jump back on Nvidia's bandwagon. I did.....and don't see myself ever going back to ATI. Good cards for the most part, but problematic enough at times to make one reconsider the price vs performance advantages of going with a cheaper solution.


Almost makes me wish I still had an ATI card set up here so I could attempt to troubleshoot this issue firsthand. Unfortunately, that ain't the case, so all I can really offer are generalizations.


Hope you get it solved.....one way or the other.




Cheers,

Parky
 
Here is an idea.
In CoD2 Graphics options there is a rendering software option: DX7 or DX9. If you choose DX9 you get crappy fps . If you select DX7 though, you got 3 times more fps and no severe visual impact.
Possible to happen in OFF?
 
Gousgounis,

Hate to say it, but I have read over and over, in many different forums, about problems with ATI cards and rendering on modded games. I did have an ATI in an old rig and I was always installing the "newest driver" or doing this tweak or that and not really getting anywhere. I ditched the card and went with a comparable nvidia and it has been smooth sailing ever sense. Don't ask me why, this is just the result. Just trying to save some headaches, unfortunately it will be hard on the wallet.
 
I bought this card because of the low power consumption and good price with good performance. Have had it for less than a month. If I go back to nvidia, I will have buy a new PSU as well :faint:
DARN
 
Running an ATI 4870 1Gb here in 1900x1440 w/4X FSAA with no issues, sliders set at 4-5 (except clouds at 2) and smooth as silk.
 
I had an Ice Cube x1950 that ran P2 great. It crapped out so I got the HD3850 and P2 ran not nearly as well but was playable. I certainly expected it to run better from what I read performance wise. My other games run great with it. From what I've read and experienced, I'm giving ATI the heave-ho. Back to Nvidia.Can anyone recommend a good Nvidia AGP card before I upgrade my mobo and processor?
 
If you can afford it, the GTX260 or 280. The 9800GX2 is said to be a good card. I've got an 8800GTX that I really like. You can find them reasonable nowadays.

CJ
 
Nope....those are PCI-e. The other bad news is....I don't think Nvidia make an AGP card that will come close to anything ATI makes for advanced graphics port. The last good AGP offering I can think of from Nvidia was the 7000 series.....if I'm not mistaken.


Cheers,

Parky
 
No, they're all PCIe. I read in your post that you were thinking of upgrading and I can see no reason to stick with AGP as it is old technology. If you're going to upgrade, upgrade!

CJ
 
Good advice there......unless of course you have to rob a gas station to do it.
 
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