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Grumman F3F-2

Same for me here... lots pics and walkarounds. Going to pattern after this aircraft and the wings. But first the tweaks on the sounds.

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Yep, many small one minus one pattern, will look good in P3D!
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Prop buzz and notice those famous buzz at a distance. Revised the startup/idle sounds also.

 
It is so good to watch you guys have so much fun with this old bird. Sounds and looks good TuFun.
 
Thanks Caz... been waiting a long time for updates. Thought about doing stuff to it for two years, just didn't have time or my skills were not there yet. What sparked the resurrection is Aeroplane Heaven return. I love how you did the folds on the wings, these would look good on a RS Stearman that I fly.
 
Here is a pretty good look around the F3F-2 N20RW, as it looks today, having rather recently come out of a multi-year in-depth restoration. The owner/restorer even has one of the original gunnery training cameras that was fitted to the center top of the wing on some F3F's (as seen on the AH model) and other Navy aircraft back in the 30's, but it has yet to be fitted to the aircraft. Although this sales page is still accessible, it appears to have been pulled a while back, having never been sold. http://www.platinumfighters.com/#!grumman-f3f-2/cekk

At present, there are only three F3F types capable of flying, those being the F3F N20RW owned by Chris Prevost, the F3F N20FG owned by Jim Slattery, and the G-32 (two-seat F3F) N100TF owned by the Friedkin family. Kermit Weeks also has one, an F3F registered as N26KW, but it hasn't flown in a great many years.
 
I was checking the lines in the sim and grabbed this pic... not bad for FS2002 model. Just getting started!

This a pic in P3Dv2, but should look ok in FSX. My main sim is P3Dv2 and all work is done in that sim.

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I am getting this weird thing where on start up (start button in vc) the plane goes crazy, flips over and crashes. Anyone else see this? Maybe a contact point issue? Is there another FDE air.cfg around somewhere?
 
No, but I do get exactly that with the Hawker Heroes Fury. Both are fine with CTRL+E to start, though.
 
expat said:
I am getting this weird thing where on start up (start button in vc) the plane goes crazy, flips over and crashes. Anyone else see this? Maybe a contact point issue? Is there another FDE air.cfg around somewhere?
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Actually, yes I got the same thing but oddly, it only happened once. I went into slew mode, lowered it back to the ground, released it and it hasn't happened since. No idea what caused it.
 
Holy Moly Teddy Boy!! I'd install this model just for the sound already ! Fantastic job !! :applause:

In fact i did install it a couple days ago via your links (i do love these 'in between' propfighters too!) but the sounds are nothing like i hear in your F3F vids... Also i have only half a prop image from within the VC because of the 'ghost panel' blocking off the lower half (as are the lower parts of the two wires close to the fuselage). Your spinning prop image is just about visible so the missing lower half isn't that noticeable. I see you fixed the double gauge images already too.

It's still a lovely model despite its old age (great job, Barry ! :encouragement:) the VC is a bit spartanish of course but the flightmodel really needs a overhaul. It'll do an outside loop without having to add power at the bottom...

Can we welcome your mods for the F3F model sooner or later, Ted ? ( i really NEED that soundsuite you are creating ! :adoration: )

Cheers,
Jan
 
Sounds nice, but if you are striving for realism (and that is the desired result right?) compare last video ^ #63 to this video of a real F3-F start up. I detect a sound difference between the two.
Video in #63 sounds more baritone/deeper then video here.


Get a load of this one:


 
F3F History

Some history of the F3F. Didn't know that at one time they were started with what looks like a blank 12 gauge shotgun cartridge

 
Javis said:
Holy Moly Teddy Boy!! I'd install this model just for the sound already ! Fantastic job !! :applause:

In fact i did install it a couple days ago via your links (i do love these 'in between' propfighters too!) but the sounds are nothing like i hear in your F3F vids... Also i have only half a prop image from within the VC because of the 'ghost panel' blocking off the lower half (as are the lower parts of the two wires close to the fuselage). Your spinning prop image is just about visible so the missing lower half isn't that noticeable. I see you fixed the double gauge images already too.

It's still a lovely model despite its old age (great job, Barry ! :encouragement:) the VC is a bit spartanish of course but the flightmodel really needs a overhaul. It'll do an outside loop without having to add power at the bottom...

Can we welcome your mods for the F3F model sooner or later, Ted ? ( i really NEED that soundsuite you are creating ! :adoration: )

Cheers,
Jan
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At the moment some sounds are raw sounds clips and need massaging and balance. If you have P3Dv2, that ghost box is gone. Good video of the slight prop buzz and startup.

 
What's Up Ted

TuFun said:
At the moment some sounds are raw sounds clips and need massaging and balance. If you have P3Dv2, that ghost box is gone. Good video of the slight prop buzz and startup.


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Did you get my last PM? I was suggesting that perhaps another way to go with the F3F sound business was to see if you could take some biopsies of of various F3F Utube clips and go from there.
I posted some here only to help. The sounds from the actual F3F's vids sound a lot better and hopefully there are enough vids that you can make some better sounds for the barrel. That is why
I wanted to help. Yes, you did find a nice vid which should give you some nice clips.

As an aside, do you usually reply to PM's from others? I ask because, I never hear from you via PM or Public here, makes me wonder if you get my PM's.

I wish you luck and success on your endeavors with the Barrel. :adoration: I know it will be awesome.

Shine on :encouragement:
 
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I think I have got everything loaded but I get an error message that the .air file is corrupted. The file is dated 2002 and is 11KB.

I would appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Tom
 
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