Introducing the Avia 51

OleBoy said:
All was enjoyable on my part. An opportunity to give a little back to the community that, in hopes, enhances the "what was" for those who read of the history around the short lived and unfortunate times from back in the day.

From a virtual and visual aspect, I'm very gratified in seeing what came of the end results as a whole. I think it's very realistic (in a virtual way) for the resource materials shared with us.
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You bet OB. Your contributions are greatly appreciated and more importantly brought the project to new heights. Thanks for all your efforts :)
 
Milton Shupe said:
You bet OB. Your contributions are greatly appreciated and more importantly brought the project to new heights. Thanks for all your efforts :)
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Thanks. Although anyone with knowledge can paint. It takes someone like yourself to give the ability to do that. Your model (and the resources) gave me a nice visual representation I could work with.
 
Wing_Z said:
You wouldn't think animated persons would make such a difference, but they do!
Mademoiselle is wondering when they will shut the darn door and get the draft off her neck

Clipped

As to sideslipping this lovely craft: please remember there is delicate cargo aboard!
You would not contemplate bruising a soft shoulder by tipping her over... no, set up from far away and waft in for a perfect three-pointer, 65 KIAS.

AVia513.jpg
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LOL well if you master the technique a nicely executed slip will not lead to any bruising. There is no need to stomp on the pedals and snap the nose left or right. You simply ease the airplane into the slip.
There is of course a bit of uneasiness for some passengers associated with the maneuver. So in real life, if I have a "newbie" passenger I explain those before the flight or if they are interested during the flight before executing a light slip.
And if my passengers are indeed of the very uneasy variety I will avoid the slip altogether and extend downwind and of course final a bit to give me more room to ease on down and nail speeds precisely.
Of course in a Saratoga the only reason to slip is because I wanted to or because I screwed up the approach in the first place :icon_lol:
:ernae:

Stefan


P.s Did you "edit" the snow effect behind the wheels a bit in that shot or is this right out of FSX ??
 
Wow! eagle eye... a slight tweak, yes
touchdown=fx_snowspray
just for the screen.
My first experience at sideslip was a little more extreme perhaps than what you are describing, Stefan: as a passenger in a Pitts.
On a very tight base, I thought we were going round.
But the pilot dropped the wing vertical, essentially over the threshold, and we went down with controls crossed until the very last moment.
I was surprised at the time at the lateral force involved.
But if you think about it, you are lying on your side, and it is a little bumpy on the way down!
 
!I want to publically commend Mr. Shupe and his 'Staff of Experts' on another excellent aircraft from the "Mr. Shupe and Co." stables!!

They fly GREAT, they sound GREAT and they look GREAT...

Excellent work by ALL involved.. :salute:

Bill
 
Hi all.

I don't usually mess with perfection, but there was a little thing I noticed with the 156 this morning - no prop blur from the VC or spot view.

My solution was to copy over the alpha channel from spinpropb18.bmp from the 51 to spinprop.bmp for the 156.

Thought I'd share.
:ernae:
--WH
 
WarHorse47 said:
Hi all.

I don't usually mess with perfection, but there was a little thing I noticed with the 156 this morning - no prop blur from the VC or spot view.

My solution was to copy over the alpha channel from spinpropb18.bmp from the 51 to spinprop.bmp for the 156.

Thought I'd share.
:ernae:
--WH
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Hey WH :)

Glad that you can adjust those things to your liking. Seems we all see something a little different based on setups but I agree that this one was very faint.
I think I may have put the FSX texture in the FS9 folder.

Appreciate that heads up. :applause:
 
Wing_Z said:
Wow! eagle eye... a slight tweak, yes
touchdown=fx_snowspray
just for the screen.
My first experience at sideslip was a little more extreme perhaps than what you are describing, Stefan: as a passenger in a Pitts.
On a very tight base, I thought we were going round.
But the pilot dropped the wing vertical, essentially over the threshold, and we went down with controls crossed until the very last moment.
I was surprised at the time at the lateral force involved.
But if you think about it, you are lying on your side, and it is a little bumpy on the way down!
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I'll have to add that effect line and see what it looks like on my rig.

And yes I certainly was not thinking of that "brutal" of a slip. Just enough to increase drag and possibly a bit of an increase in sink rate. The Avia sisters certainly are very pleasant airplanes to fly around in and with a bit of planning and practice do not need extraordinary measures to get down.

I want to add my congratulations to all involved at this point for yet another absolute Masterpiece...or in this case two of them. If they don't win this years Flightsim award I will eat my hat.

Cheers
Stefan
 
Thanks Stefan. Actually I haven't uploaded to Flightsim or Avsim yet. Was kind of waiting to sort out any issues here. I did upload to Simviation Friday or Saturday though.
 
Milton Shupe said:
Thank you Maarten for hanging in here with us during development; we appreciate the support. The team had lots of fun doing the Avias, so much so, we are extending the efforts to ... two other Robert Nebesar designs of the period.
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Alright, so I couldn't help myself, and I did some digging...

First, I ruled out my favorite Avia- the B534. Frantiszek Novotny designed that one... 'tis a pity. I still fly Milan Lisner's FS8 version in FS9 all the time (maybe someone someday will make another one...)

Second, I ruled out the B35/B135- it seems Pavel Benes made that one...

Which leaves the only two other Nebesar-designed Avias I found... the 57 and the 158. Am I on the right track???

Milton, I will totally understand if you 'plead the fifth'... I won't press the issue, and I'll patiently await whatever appears in its/your own good time...

Thanks to all- Mike Z.
 
Avia 56 and Avia 57

LOL Mike ... nice research.

The Avia 156 was originally to be an Avia 56 following the Avia 51 project.

The Avia 56 was to have used the all new Avia Rr-29, 9-cylinder radial engine with 600HP. However, that engine had some issues that could not be sorted out in time. The decision was then made to use the 12 cylinder liquid cooled engine, and therefore re-badged the 56 to the Avia 156. That aircraft we hope you are enjoying now. :)

So, with all due respect to Skoda Works, Avia, and Mr. Nebesar, we will finish that prototype with the Rr-29 radial 600 HP supercharged engine.

The next project for Mr. Nebesar was the low wing, 3 engined, retractable gear (first in Czechoslovakia) Avia 57 carrying 14 passengers.

A picture is provided to whet the appetite. :)
 
The Avia 51

Milton:

I downloaded and installed the Avia 51 package for FSX the other day. Let me congratulate you and all the others involved in this project. I think it is OUTSTANDING.

One question: I would like the autopilot to audibly "beep" when turned off. Is this set in the AIRCRAFT.cfg file by some logical statement ??

Again, Thanks to all for this contribution.
 
glh said:
Milton:

I downloaded and installed the Avia 51 package for FSX the other day. Let me congratulate you and all the others involved in this project. I think it is OUTSTANDING.

One question: I would like the autopilot to audibly "beep" when turned off. Is this set in the AIRCRAFT.cfg file by some logical statement ??

Again, Thanks to all for this contribution.
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Thank you Sir :)

You can add that sound setup to your sound.cfg at the bottom and/or replace what we have there:


Current setup:

[AP_DISENGAGE_SOUND]
filename=no_ap

Replace with:

[AP_DISENGAGE_SOUND]
filename=caapdis
flags=0
viewpoint=1
 
Milton Shupe said:
LOL Mike ... nice research.

The Avia 156 was originally to be an Avia 56 following the Avia 51 project.

The Avia 56 was to have used the all new Avia Rr-29, 9-cylinder radial engine with 600HP. However, that engine had some issues that could not be sorted out in time. The decision was then made to use the 12 cylinder liquid cooled engine, and therefore re-badged the 56 to the Avia 156. That aircraft we hope you are enjoying now. :)

So, with all due respect to Skoda Works, Avia, and Mr. Nebesar, we will finish that prototype with the Rr-29 radial 600 HP supercharged engine.

The next project for Mr. Nebesar was the low wing, 3 engined, retractable gear (first in Czechoslovakia) Avia 57 carrying 14 passengers.

A picture is provided to whet the appetite. :)
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From that angle the first aircraft that comes to mind is another Milton Shupe classic....with two extra engines. It looks like a large version of the Spartan.

Cheers
Stefan
 
Jozef Košík;682522 said:
Once Milton began making Avie, I would be happy if they did Avia 14 (it is licensed Ilyushin 14 produced in Czechoslovakia) http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliouchine_Il-14
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Hi there!

There is already an Avia 14 available, both in CSA colours and (as Avia 14 Super) in Air Guinee colours. They are part of the Ilyushin IL-14 package by Jens B. Kristensen at e.g. Avsim.com and Flightsim.com (an FS2004 package and an FSX package). They are true beauties. Also available from the same author on both sites the Ilyushin IL-12 package (FS2004 and FSX) incl. an IL-12B in CSA colours.

Cheers,
Maarten
 
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