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The Staff of SOH
While you guys with the real knowledge figure out all the things I can't do, here is some fun painting this beauty. I know it is the wrong version but what the heck.
View attachment 85135
After changing panel.cfg and aircraft loaded, there are problems with the interior mdl file. (JG_JSII int FSX2)
View attachment 85133 Gaps in model. and no overhead
Then switched to most current exterior mdl file: (FSD_JSII FSX Beta 2)
View attachment 85134 Interesting.
Thats just interior model. Your external model is not shown- something wrong in your model.cfg
// Lockheed Jetstar II
// Copyright 2005, FSD International. All rights reserved.
[models]
normal=JG_JSII try BG + Lights FSX
interior=FSD_JSII FSX Beta 2
// This Panel.cfg file created by FS Panel Studio panel editor utility - http://www.fspanelstudio.com
// Built Friday, November 12, 2021 at 19:31 FSPS Build:22900
[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=GPS
Window02=Throttle Quadrant
Window03=Autopilot
Window04=Radio_Stack
[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=-1.000, 0.000, 0.000
//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
file=Main_Panel.bmp
size_mm=1280,960
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=7
visible=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000
gauge00=LJS!Jet_N1_1, 837,508,68,68
gauge01=LJS!Jet_N1_2, 909,508,68,68
gauge02=LJS!Jet_N1_3, 981,508,68,68
gauge03=LJS!Jet_N1_4, 1053,508,68,68
gauge04=LJS!Jet_EGT_1, 837,580,68,68
gauge05=LJS!Jet_EGT_2, 909,580,68,68
gauge06=LJS!Jet_EGT_3, 981,580,68,68
gauge07=LJS!Jet_EGT_4, 1053,580,68,68
gauge08=LJS!Jet_N2_1, 837,652,68,68
gauge09=LJS!Jet_N2_2, 909,652,68,68
gauge10=LJS!Jet_N2_3, 981,652,68,68
gauge11=LJS!Jet_N2_4, 1053,652,68,68
gauge12=LJS!Jet_FF_1, 837,724,68,68
gauge13=LJS!Jet_FF_2, 909,724,68,68
gauge14=LJS!Jet_FF_3, 981, 724 ,68,68
gauge15=LJS!Jet_FF_4, 1053,724,68,68
gauge16=LJS!Std_By_Att, 755,507,74,74
gauge17=LJS!Radar_Altimeter, 650,481,102,102
gauge18=fs9gps!gps_500, 649,638,180,138
gauge19=LJS!Annun_1, 1126,560,60,166
gauge20=LJS!Gear_Lever, 1189,534,86,134
gauge21=LJS!Clock, 1162,473,55,55
gauge22=LJS!Flaps, 1225,473,55,55
gauge23=LJS!TAS, 1221,726,47,15
gauge24=LJS!Altimeter_1, 542,582,83,83
gauge25=LJS!Attitude, 395,583,126,126
gauge26=LJS!HSI_Old, 395,732,126,126
gauge27=LJS!Airspeed_450, 293,617,83,83
gauge28=LJS!RMI_Round, 293,720,83,83
gauge29=LJS!VSI, 534,680,99,99
gauge30=LJS!Altimeter_2, 910,414,72,72
gauge31=LJS!Annun_2, 796,419,66,35
gauge32=LJS!Starter_1, 1021,420,28,28
gauge33=LJS!Starter_2, 1051,420,28,28
gauge34=LJS!Starter_3, 1081,420,28,28
gauge35=LJS!Starter_4, 1111,420,28,28
gauge36=LJS!Panel Lights, 1129,508,23,38
gauge37=LJS!Warn_Flaps_Transit, 1205,673,46,13
gauge38=LJS!Warn_Flaps_Extended, 1205,686,46,13
gauge39=LJS!Elevator, 1195,801,56,56
gauge40=LJS!Jet_OP_1, 1188,864,38,38
gauge41=LJS!Jet_OP_2, 1236,864,38,38
gauge42=LJS!Nav_Comm_1, 550,803,99,95
gauge43=LJS!Nav_Comm_2, 653,803,99,95
gauge44=LJS!Fuel_LA, 772,813,53,53
gauge45=LJS!Fuel_L, 866,813,53,53
gauge46=LJS!Fuel_T, 940,813,53,53
gauge47=LJS!Fuel_R, 1013,813,53,53
gauge48=LJS!Fuel_RA, 1106,813,53,53
gauge49=LJS!Low_Fuel_LA, 824,853,19,19
gauge50=LJS!Low_Fuel_L, 847,853,19,19
gauge51=LJS!Low_Fuel_T, 913,918,19,19
gauge52=LJS!Low_Fuel_T, 1002,918,19,19
gauge53=LJS!Low_Fuel_R, 1066,853,19,19
gauge54=LJS!Low_Fuel_RA, 1087,853,19,19
gauge55=LJS!Fuel_Prot_1, 789,890,18,33
gauge56=LJS!Fuel_Prot_2, 883,890,18,33
gauge57=LJS!Fuel_Prot_3, 1030,890,18,33
gauge58=LJS!Fuel_Prot_4, 1123,890,18,33
gauge59=LJS!OAT_Analog, 218,684,55,55
gauge60=LJS!Below_10000_SQ, 1190,723,22,22
gauge61=LJS!Spoiler_Rnd, 1188,753,23,23
gauge62=LJS!Annun_3, 684,596,112,28
gauge63=LJS!DME, 285,815,99,48
gauge64=SimIcons!Map Icon, 5,600,24,24
gauge65=SimIcons!Avionics Icon, 33,600,24,24
gauge66=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 61,600,24,24
gauge67=SimIcons!ECU Icon, 89,600,24,24
gauge68=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 5,630,24,24
gauge69=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 33,630,24,24
gauge70=LJS!ICON_Autopilot, 61,630,24,24
gauge71=LJS!ATCReg, 460,541,52,13
gauge72=LJS!Warn_Overspeed, 568,502,30,14
gauge73=LJS!Warn_Stall, 598,502,30,14
gauge74=LJS!Warn_Spoiler, 568,516,30,14
gauge75=LJS!Warn_ParkBrake, 598,516,30,14
gauge76=LJS!Warn_Out_Of_Trim, 568,530,30,14
gauge77=LJS!Warn_Gear, 598,530,30,14
gauge78=LJS!Warn_Oil, 568,544,30,14
gauge79=LJS!Warn_Exit, 598,544,30,14
gauge80=LJS!IceWarning_Round, 234,655,23,23
gauge81=LJS!Altitude_Alert, 529,524,32,11
gauge82=LJS!Annun_NAV_GPS, 529,535,32,11
gauge83=LJS!Annun_AP_ILS, 529,546,32,11
gauge84=LJS!Annun_AP_HDG, 529,557,32,11
gauge85=LJS!AP_HOLD, 530,491,29,26
gauge86=LJS!Master Warning, 530,422,58,33
gauge87=LJS!Battery_Sw, 210,815,28,47
gauge88=LJS!Avionics_Sw, 240,815,28,47
gauge89=LJS!Alternator_SW_1, 210,870,28,47
gauge90=LJS!Alternator_SW_2, 240,870,28,47
gauge91=LJS!Alternator_SW_3, 270,870,28,47
gauge92=LJS!Alternator_SW_4, 300,870,28,47
gauge93=LJS!Landing_Lights, 307,16,35,35
gauge94=LJS!Taxi_Lights, 352,16,35,35
gauge95=LJS!Nav Lights Switch, 599,13,29,38
gauge96=LJS!Beacon Switch, 640,13,29,38
gauge97=LJS!Strobe Lights Switch, 683,13,29,38
gauge98=LJS!De Ice Switch, 722,13,29,38
gauge99=LJS!PitotHeat Switch, 763,13,29,38
gauge100=LJS!Exit, 1222,23,49,30
gauge101=LJS!AP_FlightDirector, 997,450,22,20
gauge102=LJS!AP_NAV-GPS, 997,475,22,20
gauge103=LJS!Fuel_Control_H, 815,891,29,29
gauge104=LJS!Fuel_Control_H, 848,891,29,29
gauge105=LJS!Fuel_Control_V, 953,880,29,29
gauge106=LJS!Fuel_Control_H, 1056,891,29,29
gauge107=LJS!Fuel_Control_H, 1088,891,29,29
gauge108=LJS!OMI_Vert, 235,747,20,65
//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=456,378
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=8
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
window_size= 0.500, 0.500
window_pos= 0.490, 0.490
gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500, 0,0,456,378
//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
file=throttle.bmp
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=588,562
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=THROTTLE_PANEL
window_size= 0.400, 0.400
window_pos= 0.588, 0.600
gauge00=LJS!Fuel_Prot_1, 76,122,29,48
gauge01=LJS!Fuel_Prot_2, 114,122,29,48
gauge02=LJS!Fuel_Prot_3, 71,193,29,48
gauge03=LJS!Fuel_Prot_4, 109,193,29,48
gauge04=LJS!AutoStart_SQ, 91,270,29,48
gauge05=LJS!PK_Brake, 432,130,68,68
gauge06=LJS!Flap_Lever, 456,203,50,190
gauge07=LJS!THROTTLE_1, 195,5,50,275
gauge08=LJS!THROTTLE_2, 245,5,50,275
gauge09=LJS!THROTTLE_3, 295,5,50,275
gauge10=LJS!THROTTLE_4, 345,5,50,275
gauge11=LJS!Trim, 74,348,58,41
gauge12=LJS!Ailerons, 362,339,58,41
gauge13=LJS!Rudder, 284,339,58,41
gauge14=LJS!Comdis_1, 70, 464 ,65,20
gauge15=LJS!Navdis_1, 176,464,65,20
gauge16=LJS!Comdis_2, 333,464,65,20
gauge17=LJS!Navdis_2, 441,464,65,20
//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=756,121
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=180
window_size= 0.295, 0.080
window_pos= 0.041, 0.508
gauge00=LJS!Autopilot_V2, 0,0,756,121
//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window04]
Background_color=2,2,2
size_mm=127,347
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=8
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL
window_size= 0.184, 0.457
window_pos= 0.706, 0.180
gauge00=LJS!Rad_Com1, 0,0,127,54
gauge01=LJS!Rad_Com2, 0,54,127,54
gauge02=LJS!Rad_Nav1, 0,108,127,54
gauge03=LJS!Rad_Nav2, 0,162,127,54
gauge04=LJS!Rad_XPNDR, 0,216,127,49
gauge05=LJS!Rad_ADF, 0,265,127,54
gauge06=LJS!Rad_Audio, 0,319,127,28
//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit01]
file=$VCjspnl2048.bmp
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=2048,2048
window_size_ratio=1.000
visible=0
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
pixel_size=4096,4096
texture=$vcjspnl
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000
gauge00=L1329!Stall1_Light, 22,910,34,30
gauge01=L1329!Stall2_Light, 58,910,34,32
gauge02=L1329!Marker_Middle, 994,591,25,25
gauge03=L1329!Marker_Inner, 762,510,25,25
gauge04=L1329!GPWS, 223,287,33,19
gauge05=L1329!WS_Heat_switch, 62,853,16,36
gauge06=L1329!Call_Sign, 494,900,70,20
gauge07=Jetstar 2!ALT BG2, 672,114,112,120
gauge08=Jetstar 2!JS2 ALT DIGMK59, 672,114,112,120
gauge09=L1329!Collins_CI, 283,273,176,172
gauge10=L1329!Airspeed_Machmeter, 164,132,104,104
gauge11=L1329!RMI_C10, 172,250,100,94
gauge12=JS!angle_of_attack JS, 1038,63,90,85
gauge13=JS!JS N2A-1, 1258,176,68,68
gauge14=JS!JS N2A-2, 1352, 178 ,68,68
gauge15=JS!JS N2A-3, 1446,178,68,68
gauge16=JS!JS N2A-4, 1538,178,68,68
gauge17=Extra_XML!attitude, 1166,82,72,72
gauge18=L1329!Altimeter_No2, 1150,182,72,74
gauge19=JS!JS_ITT_1-B, 1260,267,74,72
gauge20=JS!JS_ITT_2-B, 1351,267,74,72
gauge21=JS!JS_ITT_3-B, 1441,267,74,72
gauge22=JS!JS_ITT_4-B, 1538,267,68,68
gauge23=JS!JS N1-1, 1258,84,68,68
gauge24=JS!JS N1-2A, 1352,84,68,68
gauge25=JS!JS N1-3A, 1446,84,68,68
gauge26=JS!JS N1-4A, 1538,84,68,68
gauge27=LJS!Nav_Comm_2, 34,741,116,126
gauge28=VSI!Gauge_VSI_DIGITAL, 14,582,132,130
gauge29=LJS!Annun_2, 243,581,88,82
gauge30=L1329!Stall1_Light, 100,908,28,34
gauge31=L1329!Stall2_Light, 137,910,29,31
gauge32=LJS!Fuel_LA, 1033,460,68,69
gauge33=LJS!Fuel_T, 1240,458,78,74
gauge34=LJS!Low_Fuel_LA, 1088,513,33,36
gauge35=LJS!Low_Fuel_L, 1123,512,32,36
gauge36=LJS!Low_Fuel_R, 1405,514,35,37
gauge37=LJS!Low_Fuel_RA, 1440,515,36,35
gauge38=LJS!Warn_Spoiler, 128,303,32,26
gauge39=LJS!Warn_ParkBrake, 202,630,30,30
gauge40=LJS!Warn_Out_Of_Trim, 853,343,30,18
gauge41=LJS!Warn_Oil, 493,26,24,27
gauge42=LJS!Warn_Exit, 853,316,30,18
gauge43=LJS!Altitude_Alert, 810,455,32,11
gauge44=LJS!Annun_NAV_GPS, 801,340,32,22
gauge45=LJS!Annun_AP_ILS, 173,631,27,28
gauge46=LJS!Annun_AP_HDG, 801,365,36,23
gauge47=LJS!AP_HOLD, 79,310,35,25
gauge48=LJS!AP_FlightDirector, 80,362,31,23
gauge49=LJS!AP_NAV-GPS, 80,337,33,24
gauge50=L1329!Rad_Alt, 786,162,92,94
gauge51=L1329!IVSI, 670,249,108,102
gauge52=LJS!TAS, 433,646,112,97
gauge53=LJS!TAS, 329,644,106,100
gauge54=LJS!Fuel_R, 1338,455,75,75
gauge55=B58v4!Sw_LandingLights, 127,336,34,24
gauge56=PhmMD80!Landing_Light_Left, 855,953,40,44
gauge57=LJS!Warn_Stall, 189,291,24,12
gauge58=Alrot_B727!Clock, 73,184,76,72
gauge59=CLS_DC10_FSX!HSI, 471,276,191,149
gauge60=L1329!No1_Fire_Handle, 873,774,159,45
gauge61=L1329!No2_Fire_Handle, 874,831,156,44
gauge62=L1329!No3_Fire_Handle, 873,885,158,45
gauge63=L1329!No4_Fire_Handle, 872,712,160,50
gauge64=PA34S4!RadioCom1Nav1, 392,1531,370,99
gauge65=L1329!CWP, 1623,150,80,242
gauge66=JS!JS Eng1_FF, 1352,355,68,68
gauge67=JS!JS Eng4_FF, 1540,355,70,70
gauge68=LJS!Flaps, 1750,45,71,71
gauge69=LJS!Fuel_L, 1147,459,72,73
gauge70=LJS!Fuel_Control_H, 1139,546,15,16
gauge71=LJS!Fuel_Control_H, 1235,550,15,16
gauge72=LJS!Fuel_Control_H, 1280,547,15,16
gauge73=LJS!Fuel_Control_H, 1315,551,15,16
gauge74=LJS!Fuel_Control_H, 1343,552,15,16
gauge75=LJS!Fuel_Control_H, 1387,557,15,16
gauge76=LJS!Jet_OP_2, 398,854,97,101
gauge77=LJS!Jet_OP_1, 1806,487,119,117
gauge78=LJS!Alternator_SW_1, 1089,1181,41,58
gauge79=LJS!Alternator_SW_1, 1174,1179,42,57
gauge80=LJS!Alternator_SW_1, 1258,1178,42,56
gauge81=LJS!Alternator_SW_1, 1345,1177,41,56
gauge82=LJS!Ailerons, 1525,1970,82,91
gauge83=LJS!Rudder, 1829,1958,76,86
gauge84=LHC_LJ24B!BatteryTempGauges, 351,296,16,21
gauge85=LHC_LJ24B!CabinAltimeter2, 1034,867,64,61
gauge86=LJS!IceWarning_Round, 587,812,59,60
gauge87=LJS!Annun_NAV_GPS, 472,782,60,46
gauge88=LJS!AP_FlightDirector, 801,311,35,27
gauge89=mitsubishi_T2!Gear Lights c, 1162,1355,49,51
gauge90=mitsubishi_T2!Gear Lights c, 1256,1358,47,49
gauge91=mitsubishi_T2!Gear Lights c, 1343,1353,43,49
gauge92=mitsubishi_T2!Gear Lights c, 1086,1361,39,50
gauge93=mitsubishi_T2!Gear Lights c, 657,787,99,99
gauge94=MLJS31vTW!AC_Transferlight, 471,524,17,18
gauge95=MLJS31vTW!AC_Transferlight, 515,587,17,18
gauge96=MLJS31vTW!AC_Transferlight, 376,54,29,27
gauge97=MLJS31vTW!AC_Transferlight, 539,49,24,25
gauge98=PA31310AP!Autopilot, 3,1544,378,173
gauge99=PA34SEN!Annunciator_panel_OIL, 420,30,28,30
gauge100=js!MW_light, 376,575,57,36
gauge101=js!MW_light, 413,518,57,36
gauge102=L1329!Call_Sign, 179,585,62,27
gauge103=C340!Annunciator_Panel, 930,87,55,102
gauge104=L1329!Reverse_Lights, 752,780,110,65
gauge105=FP_C560!compass, 1481,735,83,66
gauge106=FP_RA55!Radalt_Collins_ALI-55, 661,367,122,107
gauge107=jetstr!Voltmeter, 1084,1003,81,75
gauge108=jetstr!Ammeter12, 1345,997,84,78
gauge109=jetstr!Ammeter2, 1603,1003,78,68
gauge110=js!Cabin_ALT, 1859,1696,138,133
gauge111=LJS!Trim, 1936,1955,84,81
gauge112=L1329!Ann_Test, 1058,193,29,32
gauge113=L1329!No1_AA_Light, 1676,1862,62,60
gauge114=L1329!No2_AA_Light, 1773,1862,62,57
gauge115=L1329!No3_AA_Light, 1880,1858,60,67
gauge116=L1329!No4_AA_Light, 1973,1864,55,49
gauge117=L1329!Ann_Test, 1706,335,29,32
gauge118=JFL1011_FSX_Gauges!JFL1011_INSCDU, 8,1733,366,294
gauge119=Qwings757!QW_753_spd_Window, 66,1005,77,32
gauge120=JS!JS Eng2_FF, 1259,355,71,65
gauge121=JS!JS Eng3_FF, 1448,356,67,68
gauge122=CCTC!Test_Light, 1119,890,43,34
gauge123=falcon!WhiskeyCompass, 567,721,71,76
gauge124=F5BM_gau!Voltmeter, 1738,325,82,76
gauge125=LJS!Fuel_RA, 1456,456,77,78
gauge126=banshee!vor2, 1671,37,76,76
gauge127=BB58!Bus_Volts, 65,1005,78,34
gauge128=L1329!Collins_FDI, 277,87,170,192
gauge129=L1329!Reverse_Lights, 197,890,82,43
gauge130=LJS!Master Warning, 329,510,66,39
gauge131=LJS!Master Warning, 445,574,66,39
gauge132=MD220!Warn_Flaps_Transit, 1058,529,20,20
gauge133=MD220!Warn_Flaps_Transit, 9521,4713,20,20
gauge134=MD220!Low_Fuel_L, 9521,4713,20,20
gauge135=fs9gps!gps_500, 1024,266,223,150
gauge136=LJS!Jet_OP_1, 1935,467,119,117
gauge137=LJS!Jet_OP_1, 1892,653,119,117
gauge138=Alrot_B727!Fuel_Gauges, 804,584,121,112
gauge139=Alrot_B727!AP_Control_Pedestal, 392,1634,371,164
gauge140=Alrot_B727!Clock, 754,571,87,92
gauge141=Alrot_B727!Fuel_Gauges, 653,583,126,120
gauge142=Alrot_B727!ELV_RUD_POS, 64,1384,138,147
//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
window_size_ratio=1.000
visible=0
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
pixel_size=2048,2048
texture=$vcjspnl
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000
//gauge00=dsd_fs9_fuel_dump!fuel_dump, 6,0,1,1
//gauge01=dsd_xml_sound3!dsd_xml_sound3,4,0,1,1,.\Ai rcraft\FM_Cockpit_Sounds\L1329_sound.ini
//gauge02=L1329!Systems_Process_L1329,0,0,1,1
//gauge03=L1329!Collins_IFS_Computer,2,0,1,1
//gauge04=L1329!Autopilot_Junction_Box,8,0,1,1
//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
window_size_ratio=1.000
visible=0
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
pixel_size=2048,2048
texture=$vcjspnl
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000
gauge00=ND FRANCE!AERA_ASI_V2, 781,474,123,101
[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8192
SIZE_Y=6143
I am a little bit speechless
Never saw that- but I cannot test in FSX
I suggest you go back with the interior ONLY to prebeta model. That should work unless your FSX setup is a bit different
Textures can make a difference too, but very usually only to surface not to shape.
Look to the grond steering wheel
Usually looks like that
View attachment 85143
The attached XML gauge now works as according to manual extracts, with the exception of intermediate 10 deg and 30 deg positions are included per the current aircraft.cfg file. If the model is changed to incorporate only 20 and 50 deg TE flap positions I will modify it accordingly.
Simply place the folder in your gauges or panel folder and change the name of the flap gauge(S) in the panel.cfg file accordingly, leaving positions and sizes the same.
Sure is - tested thru P3d4.4, works fineHave to ask, is this gauge kosher for P3D V4?
The attached XML gauge now works as according to manual extracts, with the exception of intermediate 10 deg and 30 deg positions are included per the current aircraft.cfg file. If the model is changed to incorporate only 20 and 50 deg TE flap positions I will modify it accordingly.
Simply place the folder in your gauges or panel folder and change the name of the flap gauge(S) in the panel.cfg file accordingly, leaving positions and sizes the same.
I'm seeing the same thing in FSX SP2. When I view the JG_JSII int FSX2.mdl file using ModelConverterX the wheel looks just like it does in FSX. Looking at the pre-beta int files using ModelConverterX I notice that the wheel looks normal in the JG_JSII int.mdl file. Very strange. Here's a pic of the JG_JSII int FSX2.mdl using ModelConverterX.
View attachment 85145
Brian
edit- A quick update. I tried using the JG_JSII int.mdl file in FSX but received a message stating that the model could not be displayed. I then saved the JG_JSII int.mdl file to FSX format using ModelConverterX. The wheel now looks like the enlarged one. Crazy!
P3D has negative texture order -FSX positive
The lines should read L-1329 Flap Gauge!flaps, ----- NOT just "L-1329 Flap Gauge,"Not sure if I did the panel.cfg correctly,
Here is what I changed:
gauge22=L-1329 Flap Gauge, 1225,473,55,55
gauge48=L1329!Flaps_Indicator, 709,446,77,75
This original gauge seemed to function okay.
I did a before and after install of gauge; face of gauge looks the same and still functions. Was that the desired result?
Did I miss something?
Could you repost the "light panel" cfg from the 1st beta?Then use old panel cfg- should work then if so pls post first VCockpitsection here