Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Trailer

John makes a good point about the tubeliners. Those guys are the most loyal part of the base. I'm sure they want a virtual airline career mode, or at least a lot of commercial pilot mission options. Even some normies might want that. Where are they?

And another community which, speaking for myself, I had no expectation of being supported by MSFS but have been genuinely delighted over the past 2 years to see being a thing MS has catered to, is the historical/vintage community. We've had the "try to fly the Wright flyer" thing. What about 1930s air races, 1920s air mail challenge, more 1900s try-to-get-off-the-ground things, 1940s flying the Hump or pilot training, 1950s surveying or propliner ops? Admittedly this might require different scenery and stuff; but if, as I suspect, the missions in FS2024 are all going to take place in bespoke, hand-built limited areas with super detail, these could just as easily be backdated. Now that, I just might conceivably be willing to drop some coin on.

Know what else would be fun? An airshow challenge where you have to fly a Pitts or Extra acro routine, do demo displays in a warbird, do hot jet flypasts, etc. Maybe even make it multiplayer, have live events, so you can be in the P-51 and I can be in the F-22 for the heritage flight. Heck, for all I care, they can even include jet trucks and skydrivers, which usually are my cue to go look for the hot dog stand. Excuse me while I adjust my seating position, this makes me excited.

As much as it might be tempting to do the "Help! Griffith Park is on fire! Put it out before Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling burn to death at the observatory!" mission and fail it on purpose, none of the modern, workaday operations missions currently being promoted are going to have much play value, let alone replay value, for me.

August
 
John makes a good point about the tubeliners. Those guys are the most loyal part of the base. I'm sure they want a virtual airline career mode, or at least a lot of commercial pilot mission options. Even some normies might want that. Where are they?And another community which, speaking for myself, I had no expectation of being supported by MSFS but have been genuinely delighted over the past 2 years to see being a thing MS has catered to, is the historical/vintage community. We've had the "try to fly the Wright flyer" thing. What about 1930s air races, 1920s air mail challenge, more 1900s try-to-get-off-the-ground things, 1940s flying the Hump or pilot training, 1950s surveying or propliner ops? Admittedly this might require different scenery and stuff; but if, as I suspect, the missions in FS2024 are all going to take place in bespoke, hand-built limited areas with super detail, these could just as easily be backdated. Now that, I just might conceivably be willing to drop some coin on.Know what else would be fun? An airshow challenge where you have to fly a Pitts or Extra acro routine, do demo displays in a warbird, do hot jet flypasts, etc. Maybe even make it multiplayer, have live events, so you can be in the P-51 and I can be in the F-22 for the heritage flight. Heck, for all I care, they can even include jet trucks and skydrivers, which usually are my cue to go look for the hot dog stand. Excuse me while I adjust my seating position, this makes me excited. As much as it might be tempting to do the "Help! Griffith Park is on fire! Put it out before Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling burn to death at the observatory!" mission and fail it on purpose, none of the modern, workaday operations missions currently being promoted are going to have much play value, let alone replay value, for me.August
The Teletubbie rescue from my Lego Batcopter will be a first day buy for me.
 
But have they put out info yet on the specs required to run msfs 2024? If the same as 2020 version, OK but if not, that's a whole 'nother story for me at least. NC
 
From the FAQ, looks like this is just going to be a superset of FS2020 and fully compatible. I would not expect the system specs to change, Navy Chief.

Way, way more compatible than, say, FSX was with FS9, or FS9 was with FS2004, where a lot of scenery and planes had issues with each update.

https://www.flightsimulator.com/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024-faq/

I don't think MS asking for the price of a dinner out (with no alcohol) every four years (IF you're not a Game Pass member) is unreasonable at all for the amount of content they're creating. Especially if they're maintaining support for the current ecosystem.

My guess is this will be a superset of FS2020, so you won't need both installed. Eventually FS2020 might just get maintenance updates, and probably benefits to world scenery improvements, but new features will be in 2024/2028/etc.

Knowing the push for revenue these teams feel, I'm glad they have a solid source of potential money to keep the sim funded outside of the disappointing job they've done with Marketplace.
 
This is another perfect example of why Add-on Linker comes into play! Once the new sim is released and installed, all will be ready to use☺️ NC
 
My question is what happens post support for FS2020 - would they pull the plug on all that streamed data for that version? If so, that would be a shame.
 
According to the Microsoft FAQ: "We will continue to support Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020) post the Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 launch."

It would be interesting to know if both sims will be streaming the same data/using the same servers or not.
 
Not going to lie - I'll buy it pretty much right out of the gate. I think many people have forgotten about the old two year cycle of Flightsim from days gone by... FS98, FS2000, FS2002, FS2004. If Asobo/MS goes to a 4 year cycle for new FS versions, I'm all in.
 
Like many have already stated, FS was released just about every two years for a while. It was no problem. We bought it. Every new version was superior to the last. We were happy as long as the previous version's aircraft and all that payware and mesh (all 32 different types of mesh!) and airports would still work. Then we hit FSX and it went dry for many years. During those years, developers rung out everything they could out of that sim, and it kept us , or many of us, simming for over a decade. Not bad, IMHO! In 2020, right in the middle of a world pandemic, MS drops a NEW one! Superior to FSX isn't the word! Far from bug-free, it breathed life into simming. Scenery was real-world. Amazing. There's my house kind of stuff! Cool. They updated it and to me, seemed to drag their feet a bit. Now, three years in, 2024 is announced. Yippee! I am hoping what the clip shows is a default sim. I see beautiful seasons, name brand AI, beautiful scenery, though they do need to put the guns in the snout of the A-10. That is a bit much. I'll be there on opening day. They already stated 2020 objects will work with 2024. Looking forward to it. While I am not crazy about missions per say, I hope they do allow one to choose those mission planes and free fly them. Looking forward to following its development. I just hope it isn't bent more towards kids and X-Box, and they remember there is a world full of seasoned pilots and simmers who still want "as real as it gets".

Don BP;)
 
As long as we still have a flight sim, I don't mind having those elements which I can always ignore. But I do want the franchise to stay economically healthy, by developing in directions that are going to be sustainable.

August
Say it again, only louder for those in the back!

People keep wondering about support for the current sim going forward. The dev's promised a 10-year path, so to renege on that wouldn't be very good for their reputation. So for now, I'll choose to remain optimistic about the remaining seven years.
 
Say it again, only louder for those in the back!

People keep wondering about support for the current sim going forward. The dev's promised a 10-year path, so to renege on that wouldn't be very good for their reputation. So for now, I'll choose to remain optimistic about the remaining seven years.

I like to be optimistic. However, in Microsoft's case the line of dead lovers is long. They are ruthless when it comes to cutting losses. Look at the VR headset and software, for one recent example.
The statement from the MS rep said that they would continue to support 2020 "POST" 2024. How long is "POST"? One year, five years, or until enough people migrate to 2024 that they don't care if they pissoff the 2020 diehards.

We old folks need to remember that the young kids coming up have no memory of FS9 or FSX. They are only interested in what is available today. That is Microsoft's future market and who they will cater too.

That being said, if 2024 is a good product and offer me something more than what 2020 offers, I have no problem forking out another $60-$100 bucks. I have saved much more than that by not having to purchase HBO, Disney, etc. to entertain myself. Software is all going to subscription anyway, I am surprised MSFS hasn’t done so.
 
I assume wine or beer must be really expensive in your area :ernaehrung004:

Washington State, USA. A good draft beer is $7. A cocktail is $12-16.

So $60 for a game covers a couple of $20 entrees, tip, tax, and a couple of Cokes. :) If you and your date get booze too, we're into Premium Deluxe Edition pricing.
 
Washington State, USA. A good draft beer is $7. A cocktail is $12-16.

So $60 for a game covers a couple of $20 entrees, tip, tax, and a couple of Cokes. :) If you and your date get booze too, we're into Premium Deluxe Edition pricing.

Glad I drank when drafts were 5 for a buck and a mixed drink was $1.50, $2.00 for name brand hooch! :)

Don BP;)
 
It might be kind of nice if they told us what the specs they were shooting for are. The trailer looks nice but if it can only be run on a Google server it's kind of worthless. I suspect that if a computer can run 2020 it will run 2024 but maybe not all the bells and whistles. Still, it would be nice to have some idea.
 
As jmig said Microsoft has a long list of dead lovers and so do just about every major developer. Trust nothing they say and consider FS2020 done and dead. Major developers are greedy as hell, if they could they would kick down your door and cut out your kidney for 20 bucks.

The one thing that MAY make it 10 years is keeping the basic functions to keep 2020 "runable", everything else will be taken out back and shot soon a possible.
 
It strikes me that they are catering more toward the gamer market than smaller simmer market. Was not tempted by MSFS2020 which is a shame as I have been doing this since Bruce Artwick and SubLogic. Hopefully LM will come up with a v6 of P3D.
 
It strikes me that they are catering more toward the gamer market than smaller simmer market. Was not tempted by MSFS2020 which is a shame as I have been doing this since Bruce Artwick and SubLogic. Hopefully LM will come up with a v6 of P3D.

If they were only focused on gamer market, we wouldn't have got any realism, any deep avionics or anything like that.
MS simply understood that a sim that focus its features and developments on realism ONLY will get sales volumes similar to XPlane and P3D.
However, adding a bit of gaming experience to the sim not only does not damage anything in the realism area (quite the opposite, in fact), but ALSO dramatically increase the sales volumes, which increases the revenues, which allows for further developments of additional realism and (gaming or not) features.

Truth (partly) is, these gaming features not only bring them money, but they also justify/motivate the development of some interesting (sim-wise) additional functionalities such as carrier ops, towing, sling, rescue crew, and so on, on a further-evolved stage than what we had in the previous sims.
 
Trust nothing they say and consider FS2020 done and dead.

Heheh.... Au contraire, maestro...It has only just begun. :)

Major developers are greedy as hell

No doubt about it but they are not crazy. Asobo is not crazy either. Kill the chicken that lays the golden eggs ? That *would* be crazy ! They have created MS2020, in many aspects superior to any other flightsim and certainly anything else from the FS franchise before (including P3D). Done and dead ?? After only 3 years ?? Come on !! It's the finest base program MS/Asobo could wish for. It is of course totally ment to build upon, make it better and create new stuff for atleast for the promised 10 years but most probabely beyond that.

'New stuff' sure but not 'New Simulator'. The only thing that'll maybe be 'done and dead' is the name "MSFS2020". That will be chanced to "MSFS2024" . And that's what it's all about, suggesting that it's a NEW Simulator because it is called 'MS2024'. Clever huh ? ;)

The one thing that MAY make it 10 years is keeping the basic functions to keep 2020 "runable"

There you go, it's not difficult.

everything else will be taken out back and shot soon a possible.

What would *that* be ?.... Everything else will be left alone, patched or upgraded. Just about as it always has been with all FS versions before with the only but severly big difference that we don't have to buy a new computer anymore along with the new version and don't have to remove the old version neither. The one and only Marketplace *Buy* button will always be there for you to click or not to click. That's the question.

If you hit the *Buy* button you get the new and upgraded stuff along with the new name, if you don't you just keep throttling along with MS2020 for 10 years and beyond. :)
 
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