Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Trailer

Naismith said:
It strikes me that they are catering more toward the gamer market than smaller simmer market. Was not tempted by MSFS2020 which is a shame as I have been doing this since Bruce Artwick and SubLogic. Hopefully LM will come up with a v6 of P3D.
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Have you tried MSFS 2020? Maybe on a mate's rig or at one of the shows? I would urge you to if you can. I was a P3D man and very sceptical. Then I tried MSFS 2020 and flew over my home town in the UK and over a few US West Coast locations that I love> Then I flew the Flying Iron Spitfire out of the freeware Duxford. No brainer after that. Never looked back.
 
Rumor has it that there will be a Jurassic Park DLC in the new sim. Sadly, no Teletubbie rescue. However, inside sources tell me that rescuing sailors from the island of nymphomaniacs will most likely be the biggest and most anticipated mission challenge.
 
DennyA said:
Washington State, USA. A good draft beer is $7. A cocktail is $12-16.

So $60 for a game covers a couple of $20 entrees, tip, tax, and a couple of Cokes. :) If you and your date get booze too, we're into Premium Deluxe Edition pricing.
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Certainly they're somewhat cheaper here in Spain, but not as much as in wonderful places such as Prague (Czech), where beer was actually cheaper than mineral water the last time I visited there :)

Obviously I might refuse the new sim when it arrives, NOT for the economic cost, but for having to face yet another long learning curve, adapt and update everything to your tastes, etc. only for (apparently) a handful of new add-on aircraft and lots of missions (goals) in which I'm not interested. Not to mention the presumable changes in required hardware.

Anyhow, time will tell.
 
Stearman said:
Certainly they're somewhat cheaper here in Spain, but not as much as in wonderful places such as Prague (Czech), where beer was actually cheaper than mineral water the last time I visited there :)Obviously I might refuse the new sim when it arrives, NOT for the economic cost, but for having to face yet another long learning curve, adapt and update everything to your tastes, etc. only for (apparently) a handful of new add-on aircraft and lots of missions (goals) in which I'm not interested. Not to mention the presumable changes in required hardware.Anyhow, time will tell.
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I look at it somewhat differently. As I get older, I really believe that the challenges in flight simulation (learning curve, adapting to new options, tools, etc..) help exercise my feeble mind! NC
 
dvj said:
Rumor has it that there will be a Jurassic Park DLC in the new sim. Sadly, no Teletubbie rescue. However, inside sources tell me that rescuing sailors from the island of nymphomaniacs will most likely be the biggest and most anticipated mission challenge.
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Thanks for making me smile with that one. Not happy after M$ is f*****g us over royally once again.

Mods/admins: I didn't use the language, I put the * there myself so that adults would catch my drift...

Priller
 
dvj said:
Rumor has it that there will be a Jurassic Park DLC in the new sim. Sadly, no Teletubbie rescue. However, inside sources tell me that rescuing sailors from the island of nymphomaniacs will most likely be the biggest and most anticipated mission challenge.
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Wait a second; "Rescuing sailors FROM the island of nymphomaniacs"??? It should be TAKING sailors TO that dream-come-true island! NC
 
I went from FSX to X-Plane 11, while I waited for the dust to settle on FS2020 so I could finally spec out my new computer hardware. Seems I missed the boat.

Tommy
 
I have read some of the comments by those who paid once and want to keep using it with free updates forever, but you really can't run a business like that. I am fine with having to buy once every four years or so, if for no other reason than to keep them in business. It's either that or you pay a subscription fee.
 
In my perfect world........ :)

When MSFS 2024 is released, all of the goofy adventures, sights seeing flights and non-flight hour accumulation related achievement silliness will be migrated out of MSFS 2022 and over to MSFS 2024. Obviously, those things are more in line with that new direction anyway and would be a bit redundant to have in two different sims out at the same time.

Then if that happens maybe we can finally get a frickin' logbook that actually works. The wanky logbook is really about the only thing in MSFS now that bothers me.


Forest
 
2024 will have the same response as 2020. Maybe even less from Xbox users. All the Xbox critics I've read were not impressed with 2020, for lack of anything "exciting" to do. So "careers", isn't really going to change anything IMO. Those types of "missions" are gimmicky at best. And replay value is low because they're probably all single player oriented. Can only imagine the the backlash they will get when an Flash Light equipped A-10 shows up instead of with a functioning gun. The only ones that seem fair as "exiting and "replayable" at least IMO, will be Red Bull, and the Aerial Fire Fighting. I'm not knocking the other "careers" but those are a niche sort of excitement level. I'd enjoy it, but will tens of thousands of others? I'm guessing no. They require more skill, more controls, and more time invested to learn and do. So if you're on PC, you're probably liking that. But if you're on XbOX I can't imagine that. Maybe my imagination is totally off....but I do have a bunch of kids, and my son wouldn't even be interested in anything other than probably Red Bull stuff. I feel like MS is avoiding the elephant in the room and trying to just put lipstick on it instead of addressing it. They won't do military ops for whatever reason. Good luck with that. The opinions of the over 40 crowd are not who they are marketing to....which is hilarious since I spent more money on a single controller stick for my setup this year than I did on games with game pass. And I stand to spend a lot more for my setup. I would spend that money on another good mil-sim as well. Kind of funny they're choosing this hill to die on when it could be solved with an option menu switch for those who didn't want fully militarized aviation. 2023 is turning out to be the year of voting with my wallet. Here's to all that being hogwash, and it being an amazing sim that exceeds expectations! I'd rather see that happen, for sure! My .02.
 
ak416 said:
Matt Booty, head of Microsoft Studios, heavily implies this is an update to the existing platform in an interview with Jeff Grubb of Giant Bomb:

Jeff Grubb: "Flight Simulator 2024, this is a new release, right?"

Matt Booty: "Yeah, so the team felt, there was enough improvement in what we are doing with graphics, it doesn't come through, sometimes I say to them, you guys are being a little subtle, and they assume that everybody is an airplane nerd. I don't know if you noticed, there's a tornado in that trailer. It's not canned, it happens because we're simulating weather. So, their advances in graphics in terms of how they're simulating the atmosphere and the flight dynamics, they felt it was enough of a leap forward to call it 2024, that'll be the new baseline going forward."

https://clips.twitch.tv/SpotlessEasyJellyfishDxAbomb-cMgZARe69aHYVGHO
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Now THIS has caught my interest, weather engine upgraded enough to generate tornados?? Wow! They've already announced that most if not all addons should carry over, and that marketplace purchases will not need to be re-purchased. FWIW my read is this is FS2020 with enough core updates to justify making it a new version. I'd be interested if an "upgrade" price is announced closer to the time for existing users. Seems to be that all will be good going forward, and this is part of the development cycle of this awesome sim.
 
Count me in, because I'll buy the show.

Heck, might even built a super rod to handle it and MSFS 2020. What else does a 77 year old crippled man have to do with his SSN $$$ and savings? Flight sim and moreover, the ability to create liveries and scenery are about the only true pleasures I get out of life anymore, my lower extremities are a train wreck, but my brain is intact and I like to use it. Flight sim allows me to use my brain. I have every sim from FS5 on. So you'll hear no gripes out of me, even though MSFS 2020 gave me three BSODs yesterday. All were my fault, because my dang fingers move too fast in creating scenery at times and I tap the wrong key.

Cazzie
 
Whitehawk said:
Now THIS has caught my interest, weather engine upgraded enough to generate tornados?? Wow! .
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I'm going to be very careful with that info.
I mean, they could generate tornadoes, and yet they are unable to implement historical weather in FS2020 ?
They should have focused their efforts into making decent APIs for third party addon makers, instead of trying to desperately generate some very temporary "wow" factor. I mean, how ridiculous is it going to be when we will get these tornadoes only at night, because we're not flying in the correct timezone ? :biggrin-new:
 
blanston12 said:
I have read some of the comments by those who paid once and want to keep using it with free updates forever, but you really can't run a business like that. I am fine with having to buy once every four years or so, if for no other reason than to keep them in business. It's either that or you pay a subscription fee.
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I am fine paying every four years or so too, however, that wasn't what was marketed back when it was launched so you can't blame people for having such expectations. People were led to understand that they were buying a partially working game with a 10 year life span of development so there was an element of trust in that purchase. My assumption about their ongoing profit generation was the marketplace.
 
Tom Clayton said:
Say it again, only louder for those in the back!

People keep wondering about support for the current sim going forward. The dev's promised a 10-year path, so to renege on that wouldn't be very good for their reputation. So for now, I'll choose to remain optimistic about the remaining seven years.
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So if we were to use FS2020 as an example, by 2030 there'd be FS202, FS2024, FS2026, FS2028 and just launched FS2030 all in support! :dizzy:

I don't think that will happen!

Microsoft are reknowned for going back on what they say. Windows 10 was supposed to be the last Windows version, and then it would just get improved upon, over and over. Couple of years later and Windows 11 comes out. Granted it's free if your computer can handle it, but it's another example of how you can't really trust what they say...
 
centuryseries said:
So if we were to use FS2020 as an example, by 2030 there'd be FS202, FS2024, FS2026, FS2028 and just launched FS2030 all in support! :dizzy:
I don't think that will happen!
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I don't think so either. By 2030 we'd just have MSFS2020 that got a major update in 2024 and in 2028. New update in 2032. These ain't the days of FS4->FS5->FS95->FS98->FS2K->FS2K2->FS9->FSX->P3D anymore.

Also sprach Zarathustra.
 
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